I have had my 835 for almost 10 years now. I cant bring myself to get rid of it because it just works. But I just ordered an SSX from Clark. I am contemplating dropping the money on Heavy 13 #7's or Federal Heavyweight #7 . Any one have this combo and have any pics of the pattern? I am wondering if its worth the money. I am intrigued by the idea of #7 shot for turkey. Convince me!
By the way I am new here !!! I have been on some other forums for a while but I just found this one and I am loving it!!
The best thing to do is convince yourself. Go out and give those shells and choke a try and see what kind of results you get.
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from Georgia
Never used the HW, I have used Hevi-13 2oz 7's and was very impressed with that load on turkeys.
I convinced myself yesterday when I shot my 835. My first shot was 301 hits, put a different lot # of 7's and shot 316. I try posting pics but says its too large of a file or I would show ya sum pics.
I will give them a try! Thanks
Hevi #7's 3 1/2
935 (should yield same in 835) Sumtoy .675 no more words needed!
Quote from: BHhunter on April 03, 2012, 05:43:17 PM
935 (should yield same in 835) Sumtoy .675 no more words needed!
Care to list whats been done to the gun? Is that a lazered 40? If so man you have a beast, I just cant get into the 300+ range with the 835 yet and any of the HTL loads.
Quote from: Philippe on April 03, 2012, 05:55:43 PM
Quote from: BHhunter on April 03, 2012, 05:43:17 PM
935 (should yield same in 835) Sumtoy .675 no more words needed!
Care to list whats been done to the gun? Is that a lazered 40? If so man you have a beast, I just cant get into the 300+ range with the 835 yet and any of the HTL loads.
Brand new gun. Only thing done to the gun was deep clean the barrel, mounted the scope and screwed in the Sumtoy. Shot 6 shots of pheasant loads to sight in, cleaned the barrel and shot at 40. And that is a lazered 40 yards.
Lot numbers schmot numbers. Apparently I'm gonna be the first one to say this here but I feel it has to be said. The ONLY folks that should be worried about lot #s are the STILL TARGET SHOOTERS, not hunters. Getting 25 or so less or more #7 hevi shot pellets in the 10 ring at 40 yards is IRRELIVANT if your pattern is even and you're getting close to or over 300 to begin with! There isn't a turkey on earth that is gonna get away from anything even remotely close to those numbers as it is. I see guys asking about lot numbers on here like they actually know what they're talking about and I gotta say I chuckle every time I see it. If you aren't a competative shooter...LET IT GO. My 835's, one in particular, avgs about 335 in the 10" at 40 with 2.25 ounce hevi 7's. Do I care what lot number I'm shooting if one box just happens to shoot 300 even while another prints 10% more? Heck no! I just shot a 355 a few weeks ago too. Was it impressive? You bet it was, but if I shot 300 would I cry about it? Not a single tear because I know that any turkey I choose to drop the hammer on is going to die...period. Rant over.
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on April 03, 2012, 08:11:56 PM
Lot numbers schmot numbers. Apparently I'm gonna be the first one to say this here but I feel it has to be said. The ONLY folks that should be worried about lot #s are the STILL TARGET SHOOTERS, not hunters. Getting 25 or so less or more #7 hevi shot pellets in the 10 ring at 40 yards is IRRELIVANT if your pattern is even and you're getting close to or over 300 to begin with! There isn't a turkey on earth that is gonna get away from anything even remotely close to those numbers as it is. I see guys asking about lot numbers on here like they actually know what they're talking about and I gotta say I chuckle every time I see it. If you aren't a competative shooter...LET IT GO. My 835's, one in particular, avgs about 335 in the 10" at 40 with 2.25 ounce hevi 7's. Do I care what lot number I'm shooting if one box just happens to shoot 300 even while another prints 10% more? Heck no! I just shot a 355 a few weeks ago too. Was it impressive? You bet it was, but if I shot 300 would I cry about it? Not a single tear because I know that any turkey I choose to drop the hammer on is going to die...period. Rant over.
Im not worried about lot numbers either , a bad lot still out shoots a good lead load by 1/2 a mile instead of a mile.. :toothy12:
Ain't that the truth?! :icon_thumright:
I can tell you the gobbler I shot on Saturday with Hevi #7's dropped like a ton of bricks.
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on April 03, 2012, 08:11:56 PM
Lot numbers schmot numbers. Apparently I'm gonna be the first one to say this here but I feel it has to be said. The ONLY folks that should be worried about lot #s are the STILL TARGET SHOOTERS, not hunters. Getting 25 or so less or more #7 hevi shot pellets in the 10 ring at 40 yards is IRRELIVANT if your pattern is even and you're getting close to or over 300 to begin with! There isn't a turkey on earth that is gonna get away from anything even remotely close to those numbers as it is. I see guys asking about lot numbers on here like they actually know what they're talking about and I gotta say I chuckle every time I see it. If you aren't a competative shooter...LET IT GO. My 835's, one in particular, avgs about 335 in the 10" at 40 with 2.25 ounce hevi 7's. Do I care what lot number I'm shooting if one box just happens to shoot 300 even while another prints 10% more? Heck no! I just shot a 355 a few weeks ago too. Was it impressive? You bet it was, but if I shot 300 would I cry about it? Not a single tear because I know that any turkey I choose to drop the hammer on is going to die...period. Rant over.
How bout when your old lot( of 6's) shoots 230-240, and your new lot number shoots 90-100. When I pay for hevi 13 performance, and get less than lead performance, it's something to worry about!
Quote from: BHhunter on April 03, 2012, 05:43:17 PM
935 (should yield same in 835) Sumtoy .675 no more words needed!
Man, that is one heck of an awesome pattern!
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on April 03, 2012, 08:11:56 PM
Lot numbers schmot numbers. Apparently I'm gonna be the first one to say this here but I feel it has to be said. The ONLY folks that should be worried about lot #s are the STILL TARGET SHOOTERS, not hunters. Getting 25 or so less or more #7 hevi shot pellets in the 10 ring at 40 yards is IRRELIVANT if your pattern is even and you're getting close to or over 300 to begin with! There isn't a turkey on earth that is gonna get away from anything even remotely close to those numbers as it is. I see guys asking about lot numbers on here like they actually know what they're talking about and I gotta say I chuckle every time I see it. If you aren't a competative shooter...LET IT GO. My 835's, one in particular, avgs about 335 in the 10" at 40 with 2.25 ounce hevi 7's. Do I care what lot number I'm shooting if one box just happens to shoot 300 even while another prints 10% more? Heck no! I just shot a 355 a few weeks ago too. Was it impressive? You bet it was, but if I shot 300 would I cry about it? Not a single tear because I know that any turkey I choose to drop the hammer on is going to die...period. Rant over.
Thanks for the info! I honestly could care less about lot #'s. I was not asking about #'s!!! I was asking if it was worth it for me to change ammo! I love trying new things and trying to tweak my equipment to make it as efficient as possible. I have never counted pellets on my patterns! I was merely asking for opinions on how Heavy #7's work on hunting. I am a hunter and hunter only! I do not and will not ever compete in any sort of shooting competition. I think you all have convinced me that they are the way to go. Thanks again!
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on April 03, 2012, 08:11:56 PM
Lot numbers schmot numbers. Apparently I'm gonna be the first one to say this here but I feel it has to be said. The ONLY folks that should be worried about lot #s are the STILL TARGET SHOOTERS, not hunters. Getting 25 or so less or more #7 hevi shot pellets in the 10 ring at 40 yards is IRRELIVANT if your pattern is even and you're getting close to or over 300 to begin with! There isn't a turkey on earth that is gonna get away from anything even remotely close to those numbers as it is. I see guys asking about lot numbers on here like they actually know what they're talking about and I gotta say I chuckle every time I see it. If you aren't a competative shooter...LET IT GO. My 835's, one in particular, avgs about 335 in the 10" at 40 with 2.25 ounce hevi 7's. Do I care what lot number I'm shooting if one box just happens to shoot 300 even while another prints 10% more? Heck no! I just shot a 355 a few weeks ago too. Was it impressive? You bet it was, but if I shot 300 would I cry about it? Not a single tear because I know that any turkey I choose to drop the hammer on is going to die...period. Rant over.
Thank you.I agree wholeheartedly. That saved me some considerable time pecking out that message. Just knowing that I can put over 200 shot in a 4" pine sapling at 25 yards really gives me confidence. ::) :newmascot:
Quote from: NYSportsman on April 03, 2012, 09:26:43 PM
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on April 03, 2012, 08:11:56 PM
Lot numbers schmot numbers. Apparently I'm gonna be the first one to say this here but I feel it has to be said. The ONLY folks that should be worried about lot #s are the STILL TARGET SHOOTERS, not hunters. Getting 25 or so less or more #7 hevi shot pellets in the 10 ring at 40 yards is IRRELIVANT if your pattern is even and you're getting close to or over 300 to begin with! There isn't a turkey on earth that is gonna get away from anything even remotely close to those numbers as it is. I see guys asking about lot numbers on here like they actually know what they're talking about and I gotta say I chuckle every time I see it. If you aren't a competative shooter...LET IT GO. My 835's, one in particular, avgs about 335 in the 10" at 40 with 2.25 ounce hevi 7's. Do I care what lot number I'm shooting if one box just happens to shoot 300 even while another prints 10% more? Heck no! I just shot a 355 a few weeks ago too. Was it impressive? You bet it was, but if I shot 300 would I cry about it? Not a single tear because I know that any turkey I choose to drop the hammer on is going to die...period. Rant over.
Thanks for the info! I honestly could care less about lot #'s. I was not asking about #'s!!! I was asking if it was worth it for me to change ammo! I love trying new things and trying to tweak my equipment to make it as efficient as possible. I have never counted pellets on my patterns! I was merely asking for opinions on how Heavy #7's work on hunting. I am a hunter and hunter only! I do not and will not ever compete in any sort of shooting competition. I think you all have convinced me that they are the way to go. Thanks again!
YOU'RE WELCOME!!! But that was not directed at you. The ones it was directed at know who they are. Will hevi 7s be an upgrade from your current load (s), assuming you're running lead? Yes and no. If you NEVER shoot past 40 yards then no, as long as you get good lead patterns to there, you're good either way. If you ever plan on that accidental shot where you may miss judge the range, maybe he's in a wide open field and he just looked a lot closer than he was, then yes, you will see the benefits. Hevi holds it's pattern and energy better and at longer ranges than lead and generally penetrates better, allowing more broken bones than lead as it doesn't deform when it strikes the target. Btw. here's that pattern I mentioned...
Yeah I have been shooting Federal Mag Shock 3" #4's (2 oz) loads. I never take shots past 40 yards but I did have a bird that I misjudged in a field a few years back and I didnt get him. I think what I will do is polish my barrell and then try the new ssx with my current loads and see what it looks like before I drop the money on the other shells. Thanks for the info.