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Turkey Guns & Shooting => 12 ga Turkey Gun Pattern Pictures => Topic started by: nogoodreezen on March 27, 2012, 10:51:04 AM

Title: How good (or bad) is this?
Post by: nogoodreezen on March 27, 2012, 10:51:04 AM
I'm new to turkey hunting and I am not really sure what is considered good when it comes to patterning. This is the first gun I have ever set up. This is from a cleaned but not polished barrel. Shooting an 835, 20 " barrel, jellyhead choke, and 3.5" 2.25 ounce, hevi13 7's. I stepped it at 40 but lasered it later at 42. 168 in the 10 " circle. I have since moved my red dot for my poi. (http://img.tapatalk.com/4620fb78-d3bb-1b0c.jpg)

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Title: Re: Re: How good is this?
Post by: nogoodreezen on March 27, 2012, 10:52:14 AM
Sorry about the sideways image. Uploaded from my phone. Not sure how to rotate.

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Title: Re: How good (or bad) is this?
Post by: Philippe on March 27, 2012, 11:10:43 AM
Swap chokes and polish that barrel, it should be shooting better with that load.
Title: Re: How good (or bad) is this?
Post by: drenalinld on March 27, 2012, 11:11:42 AM
That is very low for that combo. I would suggest shooting on bigger paper. I don't think you are seeing the densest part of your pattern. That will certainly kill a turkey, but I would guess you have higher density off the small sheet of paper.
Title: Re: How good (or bad) is this?
Post by: Jourdan_D on March 27, 2012, 03:50:33 PM
Get rid of the jellyhead, those choke are a joke.  Buy a kicks gobblin thunder .670.  Was shooting 300 with this combo in mine
Title: Re: How good (or bad) is this?
Post by: Jourdan_D on March 27, 2012, 09:22:42 PM
Okay let me restate that.  In the 835 the jellyhead is a joke. :gobble: in a Lexington 870 it shoot a pretty mean pattern :funnyturkey:
Title: Re: How good (or bad) is this?
Post by: rtsj on March 27, 2012, 09:26:08 PM
Quote from: Jourdan_D on March 27, 2012, 09:22:42 PM
Okay let me restate that.  In the 835 the jellyhead is a joke. :gobble: in a Lexington 870 it shoot a pretty mean pattern :funnyturkey:
I agree with the Jellyhead not performing well in the 835!  Where can I get a Lexington 870? :TooFunny: :TooFunny:

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Title: Re: How good (or bad) is this?
Post by: Jourdan_D on March 27, 2012, 09:35:31 PM
Ive got one I'll sell you, send money order to......

Stupid autospell
Title: Re: How good (or bad) is this?
Post by: Browning 10 on March 27, 2012, 09:40:17 PM
Quote from: Jourdan_D on March 27, 2012, 03:50:33 PM
Get rid of the jellyhead, those choke are a joke.  Buy a kicks gobblin thunder .670.  Was shooting 300 with this combo in mine
I didn't think kicks recommended using their chokes with hevi 13. Not saying people don't do it. Just not recommended.
Title: Re: How good (or bad) is this?
Post by: Borden811 on March 27, 2012, 09:53:45 PM
Quote from: Jourdan_D on March 27, 2012, 09:22:42 PM
Okay let me restate that.  In the 835 the jellyhead is a joke. :gobble: in a Lexington 870 it shoot a pretty mean pattern :funnyturkey:


Really? When I had my 835 and a Jellyhead in it, it would shoot 250-260 with the Hevi 13 2.25 oz 6's. I wish I would have had 7's to try in it before I sold it.
Title: Re: How good (or bad) is this?
Post by: Jourdan_D on March 28, 2012, 07:21:28 AM
Quote from: Browning 10 on March 27, 2012, 09:40:17 PM
Quote from: Jourdan_D on March 27, 2012, 03:50:33 PM
Get rid of the jellyhead, those choke are a joke.  Buy a kicks gobblin thunder .670.  Was shooting 300 with this combo in mine
I didn't think kicks recommended using their chokes with hevi 13. Not saying people don't do it. Just not recommended.

They don't.....but they say nitro's (using hevi shot at a faster velocity) and Winchester extended range are fine???????

The sucks will be fine with hevi, it 100x beafy'er then the jellyhead.  Hecks its even beafy'we then a puregold
Title: Re: How good (or bad) is this?
Post by: Jourdan_D on March 28, 2012, 07:24:57 AM
Quote from: Borden811 on March 27, 2012, 09:53:45 PM
Quote from: Jourdan_D on March 27, 2012, 09:22:42 PM
Okay let me restate that.  In the 835 the jellyhead is a joke. :gobble: in a Lexington 870 it shoot a pretty mean pattern :funnyturkey:


Really? When I had my 835 and a Jellyhead in it, it would shoot 250-260 with the Hevi 13 2.25 oz 6's. I wish I would have had 7's to try in it before I sold it.

Maybe in your gun but defiantly not in my 835 and by the looks of his pattern lic not in his gun either
Title: Re: How good (or bad) is this?
Post by: TrackeySauresRex on March 28, 2012, 10:38:33 AM
I don't think to many will agree on the J.H comment. Clean and polish like everyone is saying. You should get better numbers and have a good killing pattern.
This pattern is a couple of years old. It is off the mark slightly, not the greatest nor enough paper to redraw the circle (pre/drawn circle  :turkey: target) You can get an idea.

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg299/TrackeySauresRex/MagBlend.jpg)

M.B-835 24" barrel / J.H/M.B@40
Not an academy award winning performance, but a dead bird  ;D
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Title: Re: How good (or bad) is this?
Post by: Borden811 on March 28, 2012, 11:52:26 AM
Quote from: Jourdan_D on March 28, 2012, 07:24:57 AM
Quote from: Borden811 on March 27, 2012, 09:53:45 PM
Quote from: Jourdan_D on March 27, 2012, 09:22:42 PM
Okay let me restate that.  In the 835 the jellyhead is a joke. :gobble: in a Lexington 870 it shoot a pretty mean pattern :funnyturkey:


Really? When I had my 835 and a Jellyhead in it, it would shoot 250-260 with the Hevi 13 2.25 oz 6's. I wish I would have had 7's to try in it before I sold it.

Maybe in your gun but defiantly not in my 835 and by the looks of his pattern lic not in his gun either


Yeah, so in your gun it didn't do well. That doesn't mean that choke is a joke. I guess I should say the kicks, and a few other top notch chokes are "jokes" becasue they didn't pattern well in my gun. Match the choke and load to the gun. What works for one may not work for another, or it might work even better. I agree with the others clean/polish and try it again, on a BIG sheet of papaer, to make sure you're seeing the densest part of your pattern. If that doesn't work, then swap chokes.
Title: Re: Re: How good (or bad) is this?
Post by: nogoodreezen on March 28, 2012, 12:28:39 PM
Sorry I haven't replied to my own post for a while. Been busy with work. I am shooting on a big board. Just taped that target on. I'm gonna try polishing the barrel and see if it helps. I also need to clean the choke. Didn't realize they can build up plastic from the wad. That was the fourth shot without cleaning the choke. I'll clean everything up and shoot again. As for the choke being a joke, I don't know. I posted on here looking for advice and the jh was very highly spoke of. May not fit my gun but that doesn't mean it is a joke. If that doesn't work I'm gonna buy a pure gold and give that a try.

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Title: Re: Re: How good (or bad) is this?
Post by: nogoodreezen on March 28, 2012, 06:40:50 PM
Stopped in a shop on my way home from work today. I work out of town and the shop is an hour from the house but the owner offered to put a pure gold. 670 in it for me to shoot. If I don't like it I don't buy it. Thats great service from someone I've never met. Said he would not lie to me and say or would fix everything but he seems to think or will be much better. His.only concern was that constricting that much with 7 shot might blow my pattern out. Is it possible that is what is happening with the JH?

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Title: Re: How good (or bad) is this?
Post by: Jourdan_D on March 28, 2012, 08:35:16 PM
Jellyhead is to open imo. Its a .690 the 835 with number 7 shot likes something between a .670 and .680.  All would depend on how open you want the pattern.  The more pellets you bring into the 19 the less there is for the 20 :)
Title: Re: How good (or bad) is this?
Post by: VAarrowslinger on March 28, 2012, 09:07:29 PM
the JH is a fine hunting choke for the 835. my 835 put around 225 in the 10" with a JH using 2 1/4oz  hevi 7's. I have an SSX .670 and a carlsons .675 and both will get close to the 300 mark consistently but the JH is a much more even pattern for hunting to 40yds and beyond.
Title: Re: How good (or bad) is this?
Post by: surehuntsalot on April 04, 2012, 10:01:55 PM
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