i see alot of guys on here like the hevi 7's. is that just because of the high pellet count? does 7's really have the ump to kill a big gobbler past 15-25 yards?
Quote from: oldcreekhunter on March 23, 2012, 01:33:47 PM
i see alot of guys on here like the hevi 7's. is that just because of the high pellet count? does 7's really have the ump to kill a big gobbler past 15-25 yards?
LOL, yeah they will roll one over 40yds if need be.
i believe ya on the high density...maybe my mind set wont let me believe 7's will murder one :z-guntootsmiley:
i shoot the magnum blends which has 7's but who knows what shot in that shell does the killing :OGturkeyhead:
For me, yes I shoot them because they give me a higher pellet count.
Yes, they have enough "ump" to kill out past 25 yards.
Here is one I shot last year at 35 yards, while not typical of all of my kills it shows what damage can be done.
(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/redrum_4187/Turkeys/P1020490.jpg)
Quote from: 30_06 on March 23, 2012, 01:44:06 PM
For me, yes I shoot them because they give me a higher pellet count.
Yes, they have enough "ump" to kill out past 25 yards.
Here is one I shot last year at 35 yards, while not typical of all of my kills it shows what damage can be done.
(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/redrum_4187/Turkeys/P1020490.jpg)
hey 30-06 thats what im talking about! bird not paper cirlces..lol oh and is your screen name 30-06 or did you shoot him with one..wow what damage :drool:
WOW and I though mine shot tight!. yeas they will kill upto and past 40 yards, I killed one at 46 yards last year and blew him back 3 ft. and he never flopped,they are killers and alot of them.
Shot one last year at 43 yards and he hardley even flopped , I love them...
Quote from: el diablo on March 23, 2012, 01:39:13 PM
High pattern density and plenty of penetration to kill to 40yds no matter how big the gobbler.
No doubt about that. And 40yds is really all anyone needs to shoot.
I traded in my lead #5 for Hevi #7s about years ago. I haven't had to wring a neck since I switched and have shot a few birds slightly beyond yards with 3 inch shells.
SORRY...I'm not buying that under any conditions.. I've shot enough turkey in my life and seen thousands of other kills in 50 years of chasin' em'-- from 5 yards to 50 and there is no way I'm going to believe that any shotgun,choke,pellet size or pellet type did that at 35 YARDS!!!!!!!!! May 10 yards but never 35 yards!!!! Are you sure this is not a picture of a gob. guillotine kill... AT 35 yards you wouldn't have enough of any size shot to do that kind of destruction... maybe a 30/06 was used.
Quote from: oldcreekhunter on March 23, 2012, 01:33:47 PM
i see alot of guys on here like the hevi 7's. is that just because of the high pellet count? does 7's really have the ump to kill a big gobbler past 15-25 yards?
7's have the same knock down, if you will..as 5.5 or 6 lead. Do you think lead 6's will kill a turkey at 40yds? Killing patterns for Pb 6's I believe is 100+ in a 10 @ 40. What do you think the result is with 333 in 10 @ 40? I can tell you its devastating. I shot a turkey at 38 yds with Hevi 7's and the damage on the turkey was like the photo..if not worse. Serious damage. I killed a turkey this year at 32yds with a 20g and Fed HW 7's..the results were the same.. I dont shoot turkeys past 40yds so I cannot comment on long range shooting with Hevi 7's.
Quote from: Frankinthelaurels on March 26, 2012, 10:33:05 AM
SORRY...I'm not buying that under any conditions.. I've shot enough turkey in my life and seen thousands of other kills in 50 years of chasin' em'-- from 5 yards to 50 and there is no way I'm going to believe that any shotgun,choke,pellet size or pellet type did that at 35 YARDS!!!!!!!!! May 10 yards but never 35 yards!!!! Are you sure this is not a picture of a gob. guillotine kill... AT 35 yards you wouldn't have enough of any size shot to do that kind of destruction... maybe a 30/06 was used.
I thought the same way about 7s. I bought some of my own in 20ga and started patterning guns. I have 30 and 35 yard patterns that used to be 20 yard patterns years ago. Not every shot will pattern like that, but I have personally seen some of my patterns that would do that at 35 yards. It would definately do that to a gobblers head. Its hard to fathom....but its true.
Here is a 20 ga at 30 and then one at 40. If my 20 ga will do this then imagine what a 12ga 3.5 does.
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h173/dcrow77/P1010255.jpg)
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h173/dcrow77/P1010224.jpg)
Well what do you think this pattern would do to a turkey head at 40yds? There was 361 shot in the 10" at 40yds if you turn it over. That was a taped 40yds too.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/brad541thb/DSCF2951Medium.jpg)
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on March 26, 2012, 04:57:48 PM
Well what do you think this pattern would do to a turkey head at 40yds? There was 361 shot in the 10" at 40yds if you turn it over. That was a taped 40yds too.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/brad541thb/DSCF2951Medium.jpg)
Thats what I call serious business.. :welcomeOG:
Thanks.
Still not buying it...place that turkey's head and neck over you pattern, how can you explain no hits in the blue area, the eye, the beak....it could happen BUT not at 35 yards.....really take a look at how localized the damage is.. I've seen this much damage including complete head removals but those where less than 10 yards and they looked exactly like this picture. 35 is a stretch and then some for this kind of damage.
I can see Franks point and would have to agree with him. 5-10 yards yes, 35 yards no way!
And I agree that the turkey posted wasn't shot at 35 actual yards. Not in a million years. As good as my target I posted was at 40yds, it would not do that kind of damage at 35yds. And I doubt very seriously if many guns are gonna pattern much better. Not saying my gun is the best. But just saying.
Looks like it was finished off at close range
Quote from: Ruger M77 on March 26, 2012, 06:31:43 PM
Looks like it was finished off at close range
He did the ol' Duck Commander Head Chomp! :D
All I know is no matter the range, he was dead as a doornail!!
I was skeptical too! I have killed 2 so far this year with 7's, one about 38 the other a touch further. I didn't hit either with the center of my pattern. Both died just like their ancestors did with the 6's! They kill turkeys...end of story, end of game!
I shot one at 30 yards this afternoon and it didn't look like that but he did have holes on both sides of his head. The shot didn't have any problems going all the way through. :OGturkeyhead:
Hard to believe 35 yards. The pattern below is 20 yards with 7s. I can see MAYBE 30 yards.
(http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff333/ktgjsm1/7s_20yards_4-3-11.jpg)
Myles,
That's a super nice gobbler there buddy!
Quote from: oldcreekhunter on March 23, 2012, 01:33:47 PM
i see alot of guys on here like the hevi 7's. is that just because of the high pellet count? does 7's really have the ump to kill a big gobbler past 15-25 yards?
Yes... I use Hevi 7's because they really fill out the pattern nicely. Also, yes... Hevi 7's pack more than enough oomph to roll a gobbler past 15-25 yards. Truthfully, Hevi 7's probably pack enough pellet energy well past the 40 yard mark.
I was skeptical too! I have killed 2 so far this year with 7's, one about 38 the other a touch further. I didn't hit either with the center of my pattern. Both died just like their ancestors did with the 6's! They kill turkeys...end of story, end of game!
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on March 26, 2012, 10:39:03 PM
Myles,
That's a super nice gobbler there buddy!
Thanks Brad.
Quote from: Longshanks on March 27, 2012, 06:35:58 PM
Quote from: goblr77 on March 27, 2012, 04:01:25 PM
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on March 26, 2012, 10:39:03 PM
Myles,
That's a super nice gobbler there buddy!
Thanks Brad.
Congrats! Nice turkey!
Thanks, I appreciate it. My brother and I went again yesterday afternoon and he shot one at 15 steps with the 7's. The top of that bird's noggin was toasted. :OGturkeyhead:
hard to argue with the data and results but if you still cant sell yourself on the 7's dont force it and shoot the Hevi 6's.. with a good choke you can get plenty of pellets on paper and have the confidence of extra energy to boot..
at an acceptable range a bird isnt going to tell the difference but shoot what you have confidence in.
Congrats to you and your brother goblr77. Those are some nice birds.. :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:
Quote from: Gold Spur on March 28, 2012, 11:32:25 AM
Congrats to you and your brother goblr77. Those are some nice birds.. :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:
Ditto! You guys are on a roll already.
Quote from: Frankinthelaurels on March 26, 2012, 05:29:01 PM
Still not buying it...place that turkey's head and neck over you pattern, how can you explain no hits in the blue area, the eye, the beak....it could happen BUT not at 35 yards.....really take a look at how localized the damage is.. I've seen this much damage including complete head removals but those where less than 10 yards and they looked exactly like this picture. 35 is a stretch and then some for this kind of damage.
I have to say I was thinking the same thing. I've shot two at 35 yards and under with TSS 9's and not seen that kind of damage. There was a lot of blood and swollen head but not blown apart like that at that distance...and this is shooting a gun/load combo averaging in the 350's-360's at 40 yards...
Boy that fish just keeps getting longer and longer is what I'm thinking.
Quote from: bird on March 29, 2012, 07:13:24 AM
Boy that fish just keeps getting longer and longer is what I'm thinking.
Gotta remember what we are talking about here. Hevi 7's are it. If you can't do this with them, you don't know how to shoot a shotgun.
;D
Quote from: jfair on March 29, 2012, 09:10:41 AM
Quote from: bird on March 29, 2012, 07:13:24 AM
Boy that fish just keeps getting longer and longer is what I'm thinking.
Gotta remember what we are talking about here. Hevi 7's are it. If you can't do this with them, you don't know how to shoot a shotgun.
;D
Well said.. :happy0064:..just kidding..dont get upset.
sorry i havent commented to my own thread here lately. been busy hunting! and have added a nice 3 yr old to the killed list this morning. shot him at 15-20 yards with the magnum blends. maybe next year ill buy some 7's and see
Hey oldcreek
If you don't believe hevi 7 will kill at 40 you sure won't believe TSS 9 will kill at 44.
He's talking about the guy showing half of the noggin gone and says it was a 35 yard shot.
:deadhorse: the turkey is dead..the yardage on that turkey is not the only embellishment being handed out on this website..seems to me allot of folks got their yardage messed up. After taking a closer look at that turkey..he looks like he was shot twice...second shot..real close.
PS..the turkey I shot at 38 yds didn't look like that one..I didn't notice how bad the damage was until I blew up the pic.. I thought his head was just red with blood.
My son killed one Wednesday at 35 yards using the 20ga hevi-7s. He centered his pattern a tad low, but the bird hit the ground with hardly a flutter. The near side wing had an ugly compound fracture.
Quote from: wmd on March 30, 2012, 09:16:58 PM
My son killed one Wednesday at 35 yards using the 20ga hevi-7s. He centered his pattern a tad low, but the bird hit the ground with hardly a flutter. The near side wing had an ugly compound fracture.
I shot a turkey this year at 32-35yds with my Beretta 20g Fed HW 7's and was suprised at how it put the turkey down. I shot the turkey and he didnt even flop. Killing turkeys with 20g 7's for the last couple of years is one of factors that convinced me of the lethality of 7's. Been hunting with them in the 12g for many years.. Bad Medicine.
Quote from: Longshanks on March 29, 2012, 10:11:28 PM
:deadhorse: the turkey is dead..the yardage on that turkey is not the only embellishment being handed out on this website..seems to me allot of folks got their yardage messed up. After taking a closer look at that turkey..he looks like he was shot twice...second shot..real close.
PS..the turkey I shot at 38 yds didn't look like that one..I didn't notice how bad the damage was until I blew up the pic.. I thought his head was just red with blood.
Sure does look to be shot more than once. I was thinking the same after taking a good look at it.
I had a big jake catch a load of #7's this morning. The shot was farther than I would have liked but it was either kill him or he was gone. The guy with me had to scrap his jaw off the leaves when those little 7's pole axed that jake.
I shot one last year at 52 yds away with 1187 and heavy 7's, he flopped a bit, but it still put him down. Im a believer
Are we talking about how big the fish we caught was on here. i shot 2 robbers this week with Magnus blends under 20 yards and they didn't look that way
Quote from: yukonhunter on April 01, 2012, 12:33:38 PM
I shot one last year at 52 yds away with 1187 and heavy 7's, he flopped a bit, but it still put him down. Im a believer
Lets keep the long shots outta the discussion......just say you shot farther than you intended
Shot one around 25 to 30 yards this morning,didn't do that but was a pretty good mess, sevral holes in his noggin.