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Turkey Guns & Shooting => 20 Gauge Turkey Guns => Topic started by: Sand Man on March 23, 2012, 07:54:54 AM

Title: My 20ga Build
Post by: Sand Man on March 23, 2012, 07:54:54 AM
Gun started as a youth Remington 870 20g with wood stocks.  I had my buddy who owns a pawn shop looking for me one.  He found me a gem.  First thing I did was replace the wood furniture with Knoxx SpecOps adjustable butt stock and the wood forearm with a Remington factory synthetic forearm.  Also ordered a mag cap from Remington at the same time with the sling swivel stud.  Why they just don't put that on from the factory I'll never know.  I already had a $10 Remington Super Full choke from Clark on here before I ever got the gun.  Replaced the recoil pad on the Knoxx with a Limbsaver.  Next up I polished the barrel and pattern tested with TSS to make sure she was a shooter.  Got some great patterns, so off to the Smith the gun went to have the receiver drilled and tapped for a rail.  Once I got the gun back, I fully disassembled it and decided to paint it myself with a little twist.  Here's a little taste of the paint job:

(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/sandegr/receiver2.jpg)

(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/sandegr/receiver1.jpg)

(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/sandegr/forearm.jpg)

Next up, reassemble after I get the FF II guard from Warbird in and painted as well as paint my choke, mount the Burris FF II, sight in, and test it on some turkeys.

I'll put some complete pics up when I'm done.   :drool:
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: rtsj on March 23, 2012, 08:56:56 AM
Sandman that is sweet! Love the turkey tracks!  :drool: Did the same with my super bantam. Had the rail and ff2 guard from warbird dipped and now my chokes are getting done as well! Awesome job!!

Roy
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: BlkJeep on March 23, 2012, 09:57:38 AM
Nice looking build. Do you happen to know the Limbsaver part number you used? Thanks.
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: redarrow on March 23, 2012, 04:47:51 PM
THats lookin great. :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: Tom Foolery on March 23, 2012, 10:17:41 PM
That is a great paint job!  Love the turkey tracks too.
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: swamppirate on March 23, 2012, 10:59:47 PM
Good job... :z-winnersmiley:
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: mr meat on March 24, 2012, 07:52:11 AM
NICE!!
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: TrackeySauresRex on March 24, 2012, 12:44:55 PM
Real sweet!  :icon_thumright: can't wait to see the finished product...
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: mrlongbeard on March 25, 2012, 04:11:28 PM
man that is awesome !!! sweetest lookin custom gun ive seen . :drool:
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: Rope on March 25, 2012, 08:24:42 PM
Sweet paint job!!
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: redleg06 on March 25, 2012, 09:56:24 PM
Seeing this gun makes me remember the other thing I had down on my list of favors for you to do for me yesterday....  :drool:

I'm not even joking....upon second review of this, you gotta show me how to do that to my 1187. 

Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: Sand Man on March 26, 2012, 10:00:12 AM
Thanks for the compliments.  I'll take some pictures this week after I get it assembled and the FF II put on.

Quote from: BlkJeep on March 23, 2012, 09:57:38 AM
Nice looking build. Do you happen to know the Limbsaver part number you used? Thanks.

Not sure on the part number, but I ordered it from Optics Planet.

http://www.opticsplanet.net/blackhawk-knoxx-limbsaver-butt-pad-fits-04-08-90-series.html

My other one should be in this week.  When it comes in, I'll see if I can find a part number on the package if you don't want to order it from OP.

Quote from: redleg06 on March 25, 2012, 09:56:24 PMI'm not even joking....upon second review of this, you gotta show me how to do that to my 1187. 

hahahaha.  I was wondering how long it was going to take for that favor to be asked.   :funnyturkey:
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: rtsj on March 26, 2012, 11:15:11 AM
Sandman. How about a YouTube tutorial?

Roy
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: BlkJeep on March 26, 2012, 01:05:33 PM
Thanks Sandman. The link is good enough.
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: redleg06 on March 26, 2012, 02:30:42 PM
Sandman, my wife (who's 1/3 of your size) would also be interested in having a recoil reducing device put on her 20 Gauge shotgun... 



Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: Sand Man on March 26, 2012, 03:00:48 PM
Quote from: rtsj on March 26, 2012, 11:15:11 AM
Sandman. How about a YouTube tutorial?

Roy

Roy,
Are you talking about the build, the paint job, or all the above?

No way to accomplish this now since I didn't take any pics or video, but I guess if I did another one I could try and walk you through it.  In the mean time, here's a link to what inspired me to try it:

http://www.duckhuntingchat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=36000

Although, I used a little different technique to get my desired results.  I used masking tap to create my turkey tracks once I laid down the base color I wanted the tracks to be.  Cutting those track out of masking tape was a PIA.  Not so sure I want to tackle that again.  Also, I used Reelfoot treebark and grass stencils to get my camo pattern.

Painting really wasn't that difficult.  It's all the prep work that takes the time.


Quote from: BlkJeep on March 26, 2012, 01:05:33 PM
Thanks Sandman. The link is good enough.

Welcome.  Glad I could help.

Quote from: redleg06 on March 26, 2012, 02:30:42 PM
Sandman, my wife (who's 1/3 of your size) would also be interested in having a recoil reducing device put on her 20 Gauge shotgun... 

Wouldn't that make "your wife" 1/3rd your size as well big guy?   ;D

Well go buy her a limbsaver and bolt it on.  I'm sure a strapping young man like yourself can handle two little 'ol philips head screws to remove the old one and replace with the new one...............or is this a ploy for me to do the leg work for you and replace after you con me into painting the gun as well?   :z-dizzy:
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: redleg06 on March 26, 2012, 06:08:18 PM
Quote from: Sand Man on March 26, 2012, 03:00:48 PM

Wouldn't that make "your wife" 1/3rd your size as well big guy?   ;D

Well go buy her a limbsaver and bolt it on.  I'm sure a strapping young man like yourself can handle two little 'ol philips head screws to remove the old one and replace with the new one...............or is this a ploy for me to do the leg work for you and replace after you con me into painting the gun as well?   :z-dizzy:

No hidden agenda here :toothy9: 

More than anything, I was taking a jab at you for having a recoil reducer on a 20 gauge... :goofball:
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: Sand Man on March 27, 2012, 11:57:21 AM
Quote from: redleg06 on March 26, 2012, 06:08:18 PM
More than anything, I was taking a jab at you for having a recoil reducer on a 20 gauge... :goofball:

O I C!  Totally missed that.  I'll remember that the next time you want me to sight in your Muller for you.    :toothy9:
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: Sand Man on March 27, 2012, 11:12:05 PM
I know.  Cell phone pictures suck.  I'll take some better ones after I get the FF II, choke, and butt pad put on.  Hopefully with a Thunder Chicken as a prop.    


https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/k7VY0B-v7az79LOjlCPWk1WQtTHNX5PWTlLcpL8yjhk?feat=directlink

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/-fSLQvMt640Xxjg-O4EwU1WQtTHNX5PWTlLcpL8yjhk?feat=directlink

No idea why the pics won't host.  Too lazy to transfer them to photobucket.
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: surehuntsalot on March 30, 2012, 10:05:32 PM
love the paint job
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: killdee on April 15, 2012, 07:55:23 AM
I really like the paint job, looks like you used a splatter paint like came on my HS precision rifle stock. How did you get that look.
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: Sand Man on April 15, 2012, 04:26:35 PM
Quote from: killdee on April 15, 2012, 07:55:23 AM
I really like the paint job, looks like you used a splatter paint like came on my HS precision rifle stock. How did you get that look.

killdee,
That's webbing.  It comes in a spray can like any other paint.  I was told Home Depot and Lowe's carries webbing, but I had to go to a craft store (Hobby Lobby) to find it.  Very easy to use.  Just practice on card board or something before you apply.  It comes out really thick when you first press the cap on top of the can.  Also, depending on how fast you sweep across the gun depends on how thick the webbing goes on.  I would normally start the spraying into air so the webbing didn't glob on the gun then sweep it across the gun fairly fast.  Again, it depends on how thick or thin you want the webbing as to how fast you sweep across the gun.

Hope that explains it. 
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: killdee on April 15, 2012, 05:12:46 PM
OK, I will ck out the hobby lobby.
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: Michigander on April 15, 2012, 07:37:27 PM
Any idea how durable this paint job will be? I'm just curious what it will look like after season.
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on April 15, 2012, 08:07:41 PM
Here is my 835 that I did in 3 color relief, sniper-style with krylon ultra flat 3 years ago.  There is some wear at the muzzle and around the mag tube but that is hard to prevent even with a dip job.  My next paint job on it will be with the Brownell's gun coat bake on finishes.  Tough as nails and even provide a degree of lubrication on moving parts.
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: Sand Man on April 15, 2012, 11:28:16 PM
Quote from: Michigander on April 15, 2012, 07:37:27 PM
Any idea how durable this paint job will be? I'm just curious what it will look like after season.

I've hunted since March and killed 4 birds.  Still looks as good as the day I painted it.  Has held up better than the dip job on the SBE.
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: Michigander on April 16, 2012, 06:54:25 AM
That's awesome!
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: killdee on April 18, 2012, 06:35:45 PM
I was wondering how dipping held up and paint. The 20 I just bought is od green duracoat on the metal parts. I may just add some webbing and stencil some grass and tracks on mine on the duracoat, it seems to be in place good. Did you clearcoat yours after the paint job?
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: Sand Man on April 19, 2012, 09:40:26 AM
Quote from: killdee on April 18, 2012, 06:35:45 PM
I was wondering how dipping held up and paint. The 20 I just bought is od green duracoat on the metal parts. I may just add some webbing and stencil some grass and tracks on mine on the duracoat, it seems to be in place good. Did you clearcoat yours after the paint job?

I"d say it depends on how dips your gun and how good of a prep job they do on it.  I have an SBE I bought in '98 that I sent off and had dipped before the whole dipping thing was so popular and everyone in their brother did it.  That gun has been to the end of the earth and back.  It's held up great.  The SBE I built for a turkey gun I had a local guy dip it.  It's held up horribly.  He's going to take care of it, but what a PIA.  I think he missed a step in his prep process personally.

I will say that the paint job on my 20ga seems to hold up well compared to my orginal SBE's dip job.  It's held up MUCH better than my SBE turkey gun.  However, I only have 3/4 of a season on the 20ga.  Still a long ways to go to see if it holds up like the SBE duck gun.

Yes, I clear coated the gun once I was finished with the paint.  I got the mat clear coat, but it's still too shiny for my liking.
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: killdee on April 19, 2012, 02:00:19 PM
I will try to find some flat clear coat then.
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: DUPREE on April 19, 2012, 09:20:28 PM
Quote from: killdee on April 19, 2012, 02:00:19 PM
I will try to find some flat clear coat then.
walmart has it. I use it for duck decoys I paint.
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: killdee on July 25, 2012, 09:28:49 PM
Where are the finished photos sandman? I had to search for this thread to see it and no pic's??????????
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: captin_hook on July 26, 2012, 12:07:50 AM
Man I'd like to see the finished product.. That's the sweetest paint job I've ever seen on a gobbler gun!
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: Sand Man on July 26, 2012, 05:41:21 PM
Sorry.  I got busy killing turkeys.  I'll take some tonight when I pull some guns out I'm going to sell.  Hope y'all don't mind blood!   :funnyturkey:

On edit:  The links are on the second page.  Although, they aren't embedded or that great.  I'll try to take some in the sunlight this afteroon with the DSLR.
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: Sand Man on July 27, 2012, 07:29:45 PM
Not the best photos.  Thunderstorm was rolling in, so no bright sunlight and flash was washing out the photos.  I still suck with this DSLR.  First paint job.  I personally don't like how dark and busy I got the gun.  I think less is more.  Dad wants me to paint his, so I think I'm going to try for the old school treebark pattern with the turkey tracks being bright green.

Here are the pics:

(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/sandegr/870%2020ga/IMG_0595-1.jpg)

(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/sandegr/870%2020ga/IMG_0596.jpg)

(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/sandegr/870%2020ga/IMG_0597.jpg)

(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/sandegr/870%2020ga/IMG_0598.jpg)

(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/sandegr/870%2020ga/IMG_0600.jpg)

(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/sandegr/870%2020ga/IMG_0599.jpg)

(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/sandegr/870%2020ga/IMG_0601.jpg)

(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/sandegr/870%2020ga/IMG_0602.jpg)

(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/sandegr/870%2020ga/IMG_0603.jpg)

(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/sandegr/870%2020ga/IMG_0604.jpg)

(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu3/sandegr/870%2020ga/IMG_0605.jpg)
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: redarrow on July 27, 2012, 09:04:54 PM
 :icon_thumright: :you_rock: :icon_thumright: :you_rock: :icon_thumright: :you_rock: :icon_thumright:  That is the coolest turkey gun on mother earth.
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: SumToy on July 27, 2012, 09:38:45 PM
 :you_rock: Like the paint job. 
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: killdee on July 27, 2012, 10:27:52 PM
I'll have to agree, thats probably the best looking painted shotgun I have seen. Looks great Sand man
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: Sand Man on July 27, 2012, 11:58:37 PM
Thanks.  It was my first, so I'm not 100% satisfied with it.  Learned a lot during the process.  The good news is I have 3 more in the safe to perfect my technique on for my dad and two friends.  Just need to find the time to paint them.  :newmascot:
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: captin_hook on July 28, 2012, 07:45:39 AM
Love it! That's a sick rig.
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: Northerner on July 28, 2012, 10:16:42 AM
You did a great job, congrats!
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: surehuntsalot on July 30, 2012, 09:21:08 PM
outstanding job  :you_rock:
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: redleg06 on August 10, 2012, 07:36:15 PM
Quote from: Sand Man on July 27, 2012, 11:58:37 PM
Thanks.  It was my first, so I'm not 100% satisfied with it.  Learned a lot during the process.  The good news is I have 3 more in the safe to perfect my technique on for my dad and two friends.  Just need to find the time to paint them.  :newmascot:

You could definitely improve on that piece....I'll send you mine here in a couple weeks and you can knock yourself out. :toothy12: :toothy12:
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: Sand Man on August 16, 2012, 11:04:20 AM
Thanks for the compliments.  I'll try to do a detailed step-by-step on the next one I paint. It's really not that hard.  Just time consuming.

Quote from: redleg06 on August 10, 2012, 07:36:15 PM
You could definitely improve on that piece....I'll send you mine here in a couple weeks and you can knock yourself out. :toothy12: :toothy12:

You hold your breathe!   :toothy12:  I'd do it for Little C, but I hear he's a deer hunter now!  :TooFunny:
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: chatterbox on August 16, 2012, 04:59:07 PM
What a fantastic looking paint scheme!
You did a great job, and should be very proud of how that gun turned out! :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: My 20ga Build
Post by: Devastator on August 16, 2012, 07:15:24 PM
very nice!!!