Since I can't figire out where my diaphram is at I'd figured I'd work on my truck. 98 Expedition, 5.4 4x4. It is leaking radiator fluid out of what appears to be a drain tube right above a transmission line at the transmission. I can't figure it out. Bright idea was to just plug the drain hose, didn't work. Ok, I figured maybe bad thermostat so I replace it, still leaks. I let the engine run about 15 minutes and neither radiator hose is warm ,like it's not circulating the water, but yet it leaks out of this drain hose. It has about ms many miles on it as I have on me, even though I have more leaks. Any idea what the problem may be?
I know nothing about trucks, but your diaphragm might be in the drawer in the dresser next to the bed. Try there. :goofball:
PS: I am long out of that syrup you sent. That stuff is like Liquid Crack. That man needs to be distributing Nationwide! :icon_thumright:
water pump, maybe
Quote from: FireDoc on February 23, 2011, 05:52:52 PM
PS: I am long out of that syrup you sent. That stuff is like Liquid Crack. That man needs to be distributing Nationwide! :icon_thumright:
Yep! Mr Kearsey has it going on with that stuff :icon_thumright:
Sound something like this?...
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/759031-coolant-leak-issue.html (http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/759031-coolant-leak-issue.html)
Quote from: stinkpickle on February 23, 2011, 05:59:28 PM
water pump, maybe
Thats probably going to be my next project, but I figure I'd ask for some opinions. Any idea why the water leaks out of the tube?
over full maybe
Quote from: stinkpickle on February 23, 2011, 06:04:37 PM
Sound something like this?...
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/759031-coolant-leak-issue.html (http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/759031-coolant-leak-issue.html)
No, not really. It's leaking underneath way back by the transmission from a rubber hose that is not attached on one end, like a drain tube.
Quote from: gob09 on February 23, 2011, 06:06:34 PM
over full maybe
Wouldn't the radiator hoses get hot though. It's like no water is flowing through them.
Quote from: guesswho on February 23, 2011, 06:06:19 PM
Quote from: stinkpickle on February 23, 2011, 05:59:28 PM
water pump, maybe
Thats probably going to be my next project, but I figure I'd ask for some opinions. Any idea why the water leaks out of the tube?
At first, I was guessing it was some kinda water pump weep hole drain tube...or something. ?
Quote from: stinkpickle on February 23, 2011, 06:11:39 PM
At first, I was guessing it was some kinda water pump weep hole drain tube...or something. ?
That would make sense. But the other end of the drain tube goes into the firewall towards the heater coil, but I'm not sure where it attaches.
Where is the other end connected. Sound like an overflow tube. Remove the cap,if it has one,look inside radiator and see if the coolant is circulating.
This is from a mechanic thats been in the business for 41 years(Grandpa)- Freeze plug going bad at the back of the engine between engine and transmission. Hope it helps
Quote from: mossybird on February 23, 2011, 06:16:13 PM
This is from a mechanic thats been in the business for 41 years(Grandpa)- Freeze plug going bad at the back of the engine between engine and transmission. Hope it helps
Freeze plug? Is that something a yahoo like myself could replace, or would it be a job for a mechanic?
IT might be the heater core. They put some with drain tube to keep them from leaking inside. Alot of times you can smell antifreeze inside or put a film on windshields. Is the leak on passager side?
Quote from: mason0366 on February 23, 2011, 06:19:26 PM
IT might be the heater core. They put some with drain tube to keep them from leaking inside. Alot of times you can smell antifreeze inside or put a film on windshields. Is the leak on pas sagerside?
No leak inside, but the hose would be on the passenger side.
Does this truck have a transmission cooling system? That tube may have come unhooked?
Quote from: mason0366 on February 23, 2011, 06:19:26 PM
IT might be the heater core. They put some with drain tube to keep them from leaking inside. Alot of times you can smell antifreeze inside or put a film on windshields. Is the leak on pas sagerside?
Good thought. Is the windshield steaming up?As far as freeze plugs,if you can get to it with
room to swing a hammer you can DIY.
Quote from: redarrow on February 23, 2011, 06:24:20 PM
Quote from: mason0366 on February 23, 2011, 06:19:26 PM
IT might be the heater core. They put some with drain tube to keep them from leaking inside. Alot of times you can smell antifreeze inside or put a film on windshields. Is the leak on pas sagerside?
Good thought. Is the windshield steaming up?As far as freeze plugs,if you can get to it with
room to swing a hammer you can DIY.
Me, a hammer, my truck, and swinging, are four phrase that should not be put together.
The winshield is not fogging up or anything like that.
Quote from: TurkeyScratch on February 23, 2011, 06:22:14 PM
Does this truck have a transmission cooling system? That tube may have come unhooked?
I have no idea.
IDk were you live do have to defrost. Yhat when it will fog up.
OK I got your fix for ya. S Disconnect your upper and lower heater hosers. At the fire wall and connect them together with pipe of the proper size and a couple clamps. You will be by passing the heater entirely. If the leak stops you need a heater core.If you cant join them together then fold them over and put a clamp on them separately.
Sounds like to me you need to take her to a mechanic.
1. To get a "correct" diagnois.
2. And to get it fixed correctly!
Quote from: bird on February 23, 2011, 06:37:49 PM
Sounds like to me you need to take her to a mechanic.
1. To get a "correct" diagnois.
2. And to get it fixed correctly!
PS.... No charge on my expert advice. (This Time) :smiley-char092:
Quote from: redarrow on February 23, 2011, 06:35:09 PM
OK I got your fix for ya. S Disconnect your upper and lower heater hosers. At the fire wall and connect them together with pipe of the proper size and a couple clamps. You will be by passing the heater entirely. If the leak stops you need a heater core.If you cant join them together then fold them over and put a clamp on them separately.
I might try that tomorrow. I only see one hose though.
Quote from: bird on February 23, 2011, 06:37:49 PM
Sounds like to me you need to take her to a mechanic.
1. To get a "correct" diagnois.
2. And to get it fixed correctly!
I may just shoot her and put me out of my misery.
Quote from: guesswho on February 23, 2011, 06:46:12 PM
Quote from: bird on February 23, 2011, 06:37:49 PM
Sounds like to me you need to take her to a mechanic.
1. To get a "correct" diagnois.
2. And to get it fixed correctly!
I may just shoot her and put me out of my misery.
Well if you do then don't forget to video the shooting. :fud:
If this just started, and a warm enough place not to need your defrost you wouldn't have noticed the funky sweet smell of Anti Freeze in your defrost vents or heater. If you run your AC on full blast, with the windows open and your condensor coil starts making water (like it is supposed to) and water runs from the same drain tube that antifreeze is coming out of then 99 percent bad heater coil. They should be in the same compartment under the dash, passenger side. If your hoses under the hood aren't getting as warm as quickly as you think they should you may be low on water. Keep an eye on your water level, it will drop rapily under pressure with a leak. If the drain you are speaking of comes out of the tranny bellhousing then the freeze plug sounds right. If the drain goes into the firewall (heater/AC compartment) it will be the heater coil, or an internal pipe to the heater coil. Some heater coils have pipes crimped onto the coil and use an O ring that could be leaking.
Quote from: bird on February 23, 2011, 06:51:24 PM
Quote from: guesswho on February 23, 2011, 06:46:12 PM
Quote from: bird on February 23, 2011, 06:37:49 PM
Sounds like to me you need to take her to a mechanic.
1. To get a "correct" diagnois.
2. And to get it fixed correctly!
I may just shoot her and put me out of my misery.
Well if you do then don't forget to video the shooting. :fud:
I've done a lot of things in my life that I wish was on video, I'll be sure and capture this event though.
Quote from: Crutch on February 23, 2011, 07:01:49 PM
If this just started, and a warm enough place not to need your defrost you wouldn't have noticed the funky sweet smell of Anti Freeze in your defrost vents or heater. If you run your AC on full blast, with the windows open and your condensor coil starts making water (like it is supposed to) and water runs from the same drain tube that antifreeze is coming out of then 99 percent bad heater coil. They should be in the same compartment under the dash, passenger side. If your hoses under the hood aren't getting as warm as quickly as you think they should you may be low on water. Keep an eye on your water level, it will drop rapily under pressure with a leak. If the drain you are speaking of comes out of the tranny bellhousing then the freeze plug sounds right. If the drain goes into the firewall (heater/AC compartment) it will be the heater coil, or an internal pipe to the heater coil. Some heater coils have pipes crimped onto the coil and use an O ring that could be leaking.
I'm thinking heater core now. I found two hoses that go into the firewall just then that sit side by side. I'm guessing thats where the water goes to the heater core. Tomorrow I'm going to try and disconnect them and run them together likke someone else mentioned. If this fixes the leak I can live without the heater. This will probably be worth videoing as well. I usually invent some new words when I start on projects like this.
Quote from: guesswho on February 23, 2011, 06:27:01 PM
Quote from: redarrow on February 23, 2011, 06:24:20 PM
Quote from: mason0366 on February 23, 2011, 06:19:26 PM
IT might be the heater core. They put some with drain tube to keep them from leaking inside. Alot of times you can smell antifreeze inside or put a film on windshields. Is the leak on pas sagerside?
Good thought. Is the windshield steaming up?As far as freeze plugs,if you can get to it with
room to swing a hammer you can DIY.
Me, a hammer, my truck, and swinging, are four phrase that should not be put together.
The winshield is not fogging up or anything like that.
Then you aint blowing your diaphram like your suppose to :goofball: Fluid can only come out of so many places and these guys pretty much have you covered. Is your temp running hot?
Your hose should have a size printed on it. You can stop at a hardware or part store and pick up a barbed hose connection. (not sure what it's called where both ends of it are barbed, nipple maybe) and a couple hose clamps.
Quote from: turkey_slayer on February 23, 2011, 07:12:56 PM
Then you aint blowing your diaphram like your suppose to :goofball: Fluid can only come out of so many places and these guys pretty much have you covered. Is your temp running hot?
Nah, my temp is fine. As long as I take these pills I don't to much care if she catches fire and burns to the ground ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa7TiLRn9oE&feature=player_detailpage
Expedition heater core replacement instructions.
Quote from: Crutch on February 23, 2011, 07:14:53 PM
Your hose should have a size printed on it. You can stop at a hardware or part store and pick up a barbed hose connection. (not sure what it's called where both ends of it are barbed, nipple maybe) and a couple hose clamps.
I have those at work, so I'm covered on that. I just have to figure out how to unhook the hoses. I know me, I'll look at it, can't figure it out, get my pruners out of my turkey vest and take care of it hoping I don't have to put them back.
Quote from: Crutch on February 23, 2011, 07:17:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa7TiLRn9oE&feature=player_detailpage
Expedition heater core replacement instructions.
That ain't happening!
Duct Tape and Baling Wire
Oh, don't forget the Gorilla Glue!
I know one thing, you better get this project done before it's Longbeard chasing time! :gobble:
Good luck!
Quote from: bird on February 23, 2011, 07:20:15 PM
Duct Tape and Baling Wire
Oh, don't forget the Gorilla Glue!
Thats all a man ever needs. If that dont fix it then throw it away
When you try pulling hoses off twist them at same time.watch your knuckles!
Quote from: FireDoc on February 23, 2011, 07:20:54 PM
I know one thing, you better get this project done before it's Longbeard chasing time! :gobble:
Good luck!
My company car is my turkey killing vehichle :icon_thumright:
Quote from: bird on February 23, 2011, 07:20:15 PM
Duct Tape and Baling Wire
Oh, don't forget the Gorilla Glue!
Thats whats holding it all together now
Quote from: mason0366 on February 23, 2011, 07:22:40 PM
When you try pulling hoses off twist them at same time.watch your knuckles!
Will do. And I'm sure I'll watch my knuckles bleed.
I'm with the majority on it being the heater core. They are a pain to replace too..
Quote from: mason0366 on February 23, 2011, 06:19:26 PM
IT might be the heater core. They put some with drain tube to keep them from leaking inside. Alot of times you can smell antifreeze inside or put a film on windshields. Is the leak on passager side?
If it's the tube from the firewall it almost has to be A/C drainage or heater core.
Is your water level actually going down in your radiator or the over flow bottle (are you having to add water/anti freeze)? If not some temperature control settings will have the AC on and if there is a lot of moisture in your car it will drain out underneath near the firewall. If this is the case turn the heater and AC off and see if you still have something coming out of the hose. I over the years have had people ask me to find a leak when there was not one. My car and truck do this also. Just a thought before you tear into some thing that is not broke. Good luck!!
I think it was the heater core. I cut the two hoses for the heater core and put them together. Then flushed the radiator and filled it back up. Ran the motor for 30 minutes with no leaks or over heating. Thanks for the replies. I knew a bunch of turkey hunters would be good for something :icon_thumright:
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You might rethink trying it yourself when you find out what a shop would charge.
Think of it this way, pay someone else, you are out several hundreds. Do it yourself, then reward yourself with a brand new camo turkey gun that will shoot 3.5s out to 65 yards. Or invest in squeling hen calls. :z-guntootsmiley: