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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Guns => Topic started by: Punisher on March 13, 2012, 09:34:47 PM

Title: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: Punisher on March 13, 2012, 09:34:47 PM
Hello fellows.  First post on here.  I have been using this site for a long time to help me decide on choke and shell combos.  I have a question to ask.  The other day I got out my SX2 and did a little playing around.  I usually shoot a Jellyhead with Mag Blends but I had a Trulock .670 laying around and some 3.5 Win. Ext. Range #4s and thought I would see how they performed.  The first shot I had 132 in the 10" circle at a taped 40 yards.  I was pretty amazed so I shot it twice more.  Both times I ended up with numbers in the 130s.  The temperature that day was in the 40s with a slight wind.  Are these good numbers with this shell?  Thank you, and I am glad to now be a part of the Old Gobbler community.
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: Philippe on March 13, 2012, 09:44:21 PM
That is really good for 4's, i'd like to see some pictures of those patterns.
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: Gobble! on March 13, 2012, 09:45:00 PM
With #4s thats pretty stinking good. Hevi #4s are bit of over kill on turkeys but that will definitely do the job.
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: Punisher on March 13, 2012, 09:57:13 PM
If I can get my wife to show me how to post a pic I will post a pic of one of the patterns that I saved.  I plan on shooting it again sometime this week or next week with the warmer temps.  Curious on how it will perform.
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: joker on March 14, 2012, 06:49:03 AM
Those are fantastic numbers in the 10 for 4' s. With those numbers your 20 may be thin though.
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: mcgruff1533 on March 14, 2012, 08:12:23 AM
If you're putting 130 pellets of #4 Win HD shot in a 10" circle at 40 yards, you're certainly doing something right!     It might not be a "numbers" pattern, but those #4 pellets will hit hard, and there's more than enough of them to fill out the circle nicely.

I'd like to see a photo of that pattern if you get a chance.   
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: bird on March 14, 2012, 08:29:18 AM
Trulock makes a pretty darn good choke and George Trulock is one heck of a nice guy too.  I used one for years with my old turkey gun.

bird
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: goblr77 on March 14, 2012, 08:38:55 AM
I never even approached those numbers with XR 2 oz 5's out of my Xtrema and Trulock .668 or .673. Hevi 6's shot great though.
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: Punisher on March 14, 2012, 09:32:06 AM
Thanks for the welcome. ;D  I will try to post a pic in the next day or two.  I have never posted a pic on a forum before so I will have to get some help.   I don't want you guys to think I am just yanking your chains.  The pattern I am going to try to post has 132 hits wrote on it but I recounted twice and got 134.  I counted the ones cutting the line but there were only a couple of them.
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: mcgruff1533 on March 14, 2012, 10:37:52 AM
email the photo to me and I'll post it for you.

BTW, I don't think you're jerking our chains.    I really want to see the pattern with those big #4 pellets.

My email is champion221elite@yahoo.com
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: mcgruff1533 on March 15, 2012, 08:41:16 AM
Here's the pattern photo...

(http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a2dd34b3127cceffcb13af756000000030O08AbtG7Jm2buQe3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/)
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on March 15, 2012, 09:14:16 AM
That will definetely work.  It looks like you might be a tad over choked though with the couple small holes in the pattern but other than that I'd say thatt'll kill.  It might even out a lot if you went a touch more open on the E.D..  Those $'s pack some serios wallup so as long as you've got the numbers and the pattern is even there isn't a turkey on the planet that should survive. 
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: Reloader on March 15, 2012, 11:42:45 AM
That is pretty salty for sure.  Those babies are way over kill, but definitely should give any tom a big surprise.  Your close range patterns will be pretty tight, so keep that in mind.
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: trkehunr93 on March 15, 2012, 12:50:29 PM
Quote from: mcgruff1533 on March 15, 2012, 08:41:16 AM
Here's the pattern photo...

(http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a2dd34b3127cceffcb13af756000000030O08AbtG7Jm2buQe3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/)
:welcomeOG:

Looks good to me!  That is a great pattern with 4's.  Contrary to what some may say, I do not think any load is "overkill" on a turkey.  Hunt with what performs best for you!
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: Punisher on March 15, 2012, 04:57:09 PM
Thanks trkehunr93 for posting the pic for me.  I actually shot another Ext. Range yesterday but I had no way to measure it so I took 40 LONG steps to take care of any fudge factor and still got 113 in the 10 if I remember correctly.  I was going to shoot the Mag Blends but now I am thinking about giving these a whirl to just see what kind of devastation they can cause. ;D
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: Punisher on March 16, 2012, 12:20:59 AM
Sorry.  That was mcgruff1533 that posted the pic.  I appreciate the help.  I am still trying to figure this pic thing out.  How would you fellows feel about using this combo?  I guess I am still a little "old school" when it comes picking a shot size.  I am 32 but I have been turkey hunting since I was 10 and when I started everyone used the largest shot legal (#4).  Since then I have used all the different types of shot (including Hevi shot) but this Ext. Range #4 shot pattern got me kind of excited and I am thinking about trying it.  Just wanting to get some of you guys opinions.
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on March 16, 2012, 09:27:27 AM
That'll kill all week long and twice on Sundays!   :OGturkeyhead:
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: yelpy on March 16, 2012, 10:05:07 AM

Looks good to me.. I wouldn't hesitate not one bit to use those 4's.
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: Gooserbat on March 16, 2012, 10:33:33 AM
  :OGturkeyhead:
That's dead Turkeys all day, every day.
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: albrubacker on March 16, 2012, 08:35:37 PM
I like 4's also, and now I want to try the XDR Win. Looks Great!
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: schuylkillspur on March 16, 2012, 08:53:18 PM
I could never get 4's to do anything but piss-me off.
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: Punisher on March 16, 2012, 08:59:24 PM
Guys, I am having such a hard time believing the results I just had to shoot it again today.  I tried a Trulock non ported .680 and a Kicks .675 but the results were not as good as the Trulock nonported .670.  I got 130/10" with the .670 Trulock. ;D  I am pumped about laying the smackdown on one these smart mouth KY turkeys with these Ext. Range #4s.  They should shoot him up! :TooFunny:
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: VAarrowslinger on March 17, 2012, 08:39:39 PM
We do not allow long shot patterns on OG!
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: Punisher on March 17, 2012, 10:45:58 PM
I will try to some time this week.  I have two boxes of the Ext. Range #4s and I have shot shells from both boxes to check the consistency.  Both averaged about the same. :happy0064:  I just hate to shoot up two lots I know will perform.
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: Philippe on March 17, 2012, 11:04:06 PM
Quote from: VAarrowslinger on March 17, 2012, 08:39:39 PM
We do not allow long shot patterns on OG!

Who said anything about long range shots?
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: chatterbox on March 18, 2012, 05:14:45 AM
That's the nicest #4 40 yard pattern I have ever seen!
That dog will hunt! :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: Punisher on March 18, 2012, 06:23:16 AM
Thanks chatterbox.  I was definitely surprised the first time I shot one of these shells and went to look at my target. :o  The good thing is, I have shot this combo six or seven more times with consistent results.  I haven't polished the bore on my gun either.  Should I try polishing the bore or just clean the gun and put it up until April?
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: chatterbox on March 18, 2012, 06:55:15 AM
Quote from: Punisher on March 18, 2012, 06:23:16 AM
Thanks chatterbox.  I was definitely surprised the first time I shot one of these shells and went to look at my target. :o  The good thing is, I have shot this combo six or seven more times with consistent results.  I haven't polished the bore on my gun either.  Should I try polishing the bore or just clean the gun and put it up until April?
I would just do a deep clean on the barrel that Clark Bush describes at his web site www.allaboutshooting.com. When you get on the site, just find the link to "deep cleaning a shotgun barrel." I think you will be pleased with your results. That's the technique I use, and it really helps.
Best of luck with your setup this spring! :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: bird on March 18, 2012, 08:42:54 AM
Quote from: Philippe on March 17, 2012, 11:04:06 PM
Quote from: VAarrowslinger on March 17, 2012, 08:39:39 PM
We do not allow long shot patterns on OG!

Who said anything about long range shots?

Vaarrowslinger asked for a long shot pattern and I replaced his words with the no long shot statement.
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: coyotetrpr on March 18, 2012, 09:06:21 AM
I thought that the blue letters were odd, but it makes sense now.
Title: Re: Win. Ext. Range 3.5 #4s
Post by: surehuntsalot on March 21, 2012, 08:44:07 PM
unbelievable pattern with #4's
good luck with them