i polished my barrel with the steel wool i to am having the same problem with wad string hanging in my barrel (lot of build up i never had before) i would just like to know how to fix it, if you can, my gun used to shoot in the 300's now it is maybe 200 i understand i probably did the method wrong but i just wana fix it... any suggestions or anybody i can send it too...any help would be appreciated
http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,182.0.html
Right at the top of this forum in bold. The best way to pollish a barrel ime. :icon_thumright:
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on March 13, 2012, 08:51:56 AM
http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,182.0.html
Right at the top of this forum in bold. The best way to pollish a barrel ime. :icon_thumright:
Yep.
I'm sorry to here of your misfortune. All the more reason why I don't support anyone telling folks to use steel wool on their shotgun barrels. Steel vs steel is not a good mix.
I will recommend you go to Walmart and buy this to finish with. I used it on both of my barrels and couldn't be happier. It will make it shine almost like chrome.
(http://enslerlighting.com/Mothers_Polish.jpg)
I knew there would be more about this and I too am curious on a quick fix. Having none of the polishing products recommended, what can u do? What can ya put on db pad to smooth it out? Im still not too sure about it, but I've re-cleaned mine and will hopefully get to shoot today, weather permitting, and will clean/bore snake between shots and see if I still get the plastic stringy stuff
do you guys think the wool put swirls in the barrel that are gonna not come out or do you think that it will still polish to the eye it looks good but the barrel after one shot had all sorts of wad in it i would love to fix it and only got 5 weeks till season
i called rhino knowing they do gun work and he wouldnt even take it told me to get another barrel
So you are getting upwards of a 100 pellet loss now? I find that hard to believe unless the barrel is seriously damaged. I've used the 0000 steel wool on a handful of shotgun and they all shoot great and i get none of that stringy stuff.
Now I not going to he said she said with this. If did the way it should I don't think ether way will hurt. Now did wrong it will.
Before you hit the panic button get all the oil out the barrel. I not going to say how. Then try it.
Now what shell you shooting and is the weather and lot number the same. We know the HV-13 has had mix results.
as much money as i have invested i wish i was lying but im not it is about 80 pellet loss i just want it fixed is it possible...?
i did dry steel wool i agree its prob. the wrong way
look why would anybody on here lie about there gun not shootin if anything i think people would stretch the truth about more pellets im not pointin fingers i just admit i did it wrong and i am looking for suggestions to fix it yes i shot last years shells same lot #'s you guys are very helpful just looking for a solution
Well you've reconized a problem and most like its cause. Now go fix it. You've been given options on how to remedy the issue so it is now up to you to get to it. Again though, I would super clean that barrel and then pollish it to the standard set forth in the sticky at the top of the page. If it still doesn't work than you get to chalk this up to experience and go buy a new barrel. If it works and you get your gun back, you're good and walk away with a little experience under your belt. Either way, there is simply no way you can blame that kind of pattern loss on the shells. No way they could change that drastically from one year to the next...just no way.
Im gonna say what I did and it goes again the grain for some...im a little hardheaded. I did it this way last year and it worked, so im gonna see now. I took both my guns that I did the wool/wd-40 magic to and cleaned then with a brush and hopped ran it through several times and then ran clean patches through making sure they came out clean...then I walked away. If the weather works for me...and I really hope it does ...I will shoot the two of em today.
I've cooled down now and stepped back to look and just don't see how I could have hurt anything. Others have done it here the same way I did and nothing wrong. I did it last year to my 835 with no ill affects. The cd 20 is new to me, so I don't know it that well. I will though.
MrBOOOM,
I think your problem was from using dry steel wool in the first place and even if it was lubed, it's best to follow with a final polish.
What I personally would do to your gun:
Install factory flush choke
Place bbl in padded vice
Chuck cleaning rod in cordless drill
Knock the primer out of a fired hull and slide on cleaning rod as a guide
Place 12ga bronze brush on cleaning rod
Wrap a large cotton patch around the brush and soak it in oil
Smear fine metal polish on cotton patch(JB, Montana, Flitz, etc)
Insert brush in chamber and push it in the bbl a few inches
Slide bore guide(hull) down the rod and fully into the chamber
Start spinning the rod with the drill and slowly move from hull to choke, never spin in one spot.
Go back and forth for 20 passes, then pull it, put on a new patch and start over
Do that for about 100 passes slowly from choke to hull, then thoroughly clean the bbl with solvents to remove all polish. Run some dry patches through the bore and hold the bbl up to a light. You should see a mirror like surface in the bore. Dry steel wool scratches steel. I think you have probably made your bbl rougher than it was before you started and it needs to be polished to remove this swirl pattern. That rough surface is causing friction.
I don't think anyone should use steel wool in a bbl unless the bbl is very rough from the start and it should only be used if well lubed. It should be followed by the above or similar as well.
Good Luck
loder
k sounds good i'll give it a whirl today
so to fix my gun problem i took scotch brite pad put mothers mag polish on it drill on low and went up and down for an hour kept buffing it.. then i dont know if you guys ever heard of it but i took never dull its cotton pre soaked for cleaning and polishing metals lots of guys use it on harleys u can clean silverware or anything and did it repeatedly up and down the barrel honestly it looks chrome and the numbers came back up dont know what helped either or but i will say to the eye that never dull made it look amazing tried 2 shots and they were good 302 and 327 so im happy dont know what to blame it on but its workin so thanks for all the help ...u guys ever try that never dull...?
Quote from: MrB0000M on March 13, 2012, 09:45:47 PM
so to fix my gun problem i took scotch brite pad put mothers mag polish on it drill on low and went up and down for an hour kept buffing it.. then i dont know if you guys ever heard of it but i took never dull its cotton pre soaked for cleaning and polishing metals lots of guys use it on harleys u can clean silverware or anything and did it repeatedly up and down the barrel honestly it looks chrome and the numbers came back up dont know what helped either or but i will say to the eye that never dull made it look amazing tried 2 shots and they were good 302 and 327 so im happy dont know what to blame it on but its workin so thanks for all the help ...u guys ever try that never dull...?
Yep. Back when I used to own a Harley. Speaking of which.
Yeah I use the cotton material that is treated with "never dull" it has worked for me on my barrels .
Quote from: Reloader on March 13, 2012, 12:01:06 PM
MrBOOOM,
I think your problem was from using dry steel wool in the first place and even if it was lubed, it's best to follow with a final polish.
What I personally would do to your gun:
Install factory flush choke
Place bbl in padded vice
Chuck cleaning rod in cordless drill
Knock the primer out of a fired hull and slide on cleaning rod as a guide
Place 12ga bronze brush on cleaning rod
Wrap a large cotton patch around the brush and soak it in oil
Smear fine metal polish on cotton patch(JB, Montana, Flitz, etc)
Insert brush in chamber and push it in the bbl a few inches
Slide bore guide(hull) down the rod and fully into the chamber
Start spinning the rod with the drill and slowly move from hull to choke, never spin in one spot.
Go back and forth for 20 passes, then pull it, put on a new patch and start over
Do that for about 100 passes slowly from choke to hull, then thoroughly clean the bbl with solvents to remove all polish. Run some dry patches through the bore and hold the bbl up to a light. You should see a mirror like surface in the bore. Dry steel wool scratches steel. I think you have probably made your bbl rougher than it was before you started and it needs to be polished to remove this swirl pattern. That rough surface is causing friction.
I don't think anyone should use steel wool in a bbl unless the bbl is very rough from the start and it should only be used if well lubed. It should be followed by the above or similar as well.
Good Luck
loder
That is how I have done all mine.
Sounds great MRBOOOM, glad to hear your numbers are smoking again.
I've used that stuff to polish chrome and it works like a champ. Never thought about it for bbls.
ya actually very impressed with never dull and its only $5 at wally world
Steel wool with no lubricant, probably did more fine scuffing of the barrel rather than polishing would be my guess?
Never used Steel Wool to really say though? But using a Green Scotchbrite with lubricant, followed by Gray Scotchbrite and lubricant, should poloish out the scuffing if that is the case?
i was gonna ask you guys to when you say scotch brite i went to walmart they only had like 10 different kinds...scratch resistant, heavy duty, sponges...etc....what kind do you all use...?
i did the same thing today to mine as u. went shooting and was all happy til i shot. the first shot looked awful and then ran the brand new bore snake through it and the first set of brushes came out full of plastic. i give up. guess ive ruined some bbls. gona go back tomorrow and shoot the hell out of it and not clean it, then snake it and pattern a few hunting loads. maybe i can shoot it dirty enough to foul it back to normal
Quote from: MrB0000M on March 14, 2012, 06:51:07 PM
i was gonna ask you guys to when you say scotch brite i went to walmart they only had like 10 different kinds...scratch resistant, heavy duty, sponges...etc....what kind do you all use...?
Get the regular 3M brand finishing pads, i like them better than green scotch bright pads. You can get them at walmart or lowes.
Quote from: fountain2 on March 14, 2012, 09:03:55 PM
i did the same thing today to mine as u. went shooting and was all happy til i shot. the first shot looked awful and then ran the brand new bore snake through it and the first set of brushes came out full of plastic. i give up. guess ive ruined some bbls. gona go back tomorrow and shoot the hell out of it and not clean it, then snake it and pattern a few hunting loads. maybe i can shoot it dirty enough to foul it back to normal
i duno y it worked for me but i can say that when i did the steel wool i didnt do it very long
i didnt do it long either. what did you use to clean with after the polishing? not sure whats up with mine. gonna try and foul it pretty well then fire a test dummy load and see how it compares to yesterdays shot
i didnt clean it with anything ran the never dull down it waited 10 min took a piece of cloth ran it down the barrel then let it at that