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Title: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: BigHooks on March 12, 2012, 10:57:28 PM
OK guy's I know it's not a DSD an alot of you don't even use decoys what do you all think I beleave it will work. And it also looks pretty good. What do you think..
(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x343/bighooks1/IM000139.jpg)
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: northms on March 12, 2012, 11:01:27 PM
I think it looks great.  What was the price for that? Probably a lot less than DSD? 
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: Gobble! on March 12, 2012, 11:03:27 PM
For the price it looks great!
Any turkey decoy will work. People are far more particular then turkeys.
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: TNhunterKMC on March 12, 2012, 11:05:05 PM
The Woody and Jezebel are LOTS less that DSD.   Only problem I have with them is they're a little clunky hauling through the woods.  They're also quite loud banging against each other as you're carrying them and with their hard shell tend to be a little loud.   The DSD decoys being made from their somewhat pliable hard shell HAVE to be quieter.
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: BigHooks on March 12, 2012, 11:05:45 PM
$54.00 dallors... I don't think I done bad..
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: BigHooks on March 12, 2012, 11:17:51 PM
I'm not using the Jezebel using two other hen decoys no loud banging ..
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: sugarray on March 13, 2012, 08:38:10 AM
I looked at him a lot before deciding to go with the DSD.  I think he looks good and will bring in plenty of toms for you!!

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Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: darron on March 13, 2012, 10:57:48 AM
what does the hen look like?
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: Rio Fan on March 13, 2012, 11:07:31 AM
The first thought that came to my head is guys are still killing birds with the foam Feather Flex decoys.  Not a knock against Feather Flex decoys, but that HS Jake looks way more realistic, so I'm guessing it'll work just fine.  I hope you have some great hunts with it.
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: ssramage on March 13, 2012, 12:03:41 PM
Looks good! I've been thinking about picking one up
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: eaglea1 on March 13, 2012, 12:59:59 PM
My son had great responses to the woody last year.
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: okiegobblers on March 13, 2012, 01:09:23 PM
Just got an email today about a Primos Jake mobile on sale at Bass Pro for $25. Sounds like a good deal to me.
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: tha bugman on March 13, 2012, 01:35:23 PM
+1
Quote from: Rio Fan on March 13, 2012, 11:07:31 AM
The first thought that came to my head is guys are still killing birds with the foam Feather Flex decoys.  Not a knock against Feather Flex decoys, but that HS Jake looks way more realistic, so I'm guessing it'll work just fine.  I hope you have some great hunts with it.
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: Reloader on March 13, 2012, 02:16:33 PM
Looks pretty dang good to me.  For $54 I think you did real well.

The DSD does look better, as does the Zink and Dakota, but you aren't going to kill anymore turkeys with them than the Woody.

Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: busta biggun on March 13, 2012, 11:15:47 PM
I think the decoy looks pretty good. My problem is it seems like they basically stole the body shape of the hen and the jake straight from Dave Smith Decoys. I think the paint looks way better on the DSD's but this is very close, but that is due to all the work that Dave Smith did. The posture of these decoys is important in bringing the turkeys in, particularly on the jake. But it seems to me that HS Strut just copied the DSD instead of building their own. It must be legal, but I feel it seems unethical. I feel that DSD deserves the business due to their innovative design. Just my .02.
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: TNhunterKMC on March 13, 2012, 11:38:48 PM
These are very similar to the DSD and are obviously modeled after them. Both the hen and jake are quite a bit smaller and have quite a few differences in the moldings. 
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: gob09 on March 14, 2012, 07:03:19 AM
 
Quote from: busta biggun on March 13, 2012, 11:15:47 PM
I think the decoy looks pretty good. My problem is it seems like they basically stole the body shape of the hen and the jake straight from Dave Smith Decoys. I think the paint looks way better on the DSD's but this is very close, but that is due to all the work that Dave Smith did. The posture of these decoys is important in bringing the turkeys in, particularly on the jake. But it seems to me that HS Strut just copied the DSD instead of building their own. It must be legal, but I feel it seems unethical. I feel that DSD deserves the business due to their innovative design. Just my .02.
imitation is a form of flattery





you did good on the decoy he looks just fine.  did you get the hen also ? i ended up with the sneaky pete which is a lot like the woody except it is a soft rubber type material. i thought it would be easier to carry in the woods other than that i cant see any difference in them
good luck with ole woody
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: Shotgun Dave on March 15, 2012, 09:00:49 PM
I think it looks great Big Hooks . Think you made a wise choice with your Decoy . It's not a DSD so what . I think DSD is an imitation of what Our Lord made for us . HS just copied the same mold that  DSD did . I thought all decoys were imitations !!! God made The Wild Turkey not any man or company . They all stole God's mold and yes it is perfectly legal . I'm sure it will work great for you . Have a Blessed season !!!   Just my $1.00s worth 
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: busta biggun on March 15, 2012, 09:12:36 PM
Hey Dave, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but you don't need to give personal digs against me. I don't appreciate it. Saying just my .02 worth is a common saying. For you to mock me by saying your opinion is $1 worth seems childish to me. If you like the HS Strut decoy, and you don't have any problem that they stole the exact design from DSD, then by all means, enjoy it. He was asking for opinions and I give him mine.
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: vaturkey on March 15, 2012, 09:29:23 PM
Quote from: busta biggun on March 15, 2012, 09:12:36 PM
Hey Dave, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but you don't need to give personal digs against me. I don't appreciate it. Saying just my .02 worth is a common saying. For you to mock me by saying your opinion is $1 worth seems childish to me. If you like the HS Strut decoy, and you don't have any problem that they stole the exact design from DSD, then by all means, enjoy it. He was asking for opinions and I give him mine.


Well said BUSTA !    :TrainWreck1:
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: Shotgun Dave on March 15, 2012, 09:31:31 PM
As well did I !!!
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: busta biggun on March 15, 2012, 09:41:25 PM
You stating your opinion doesn't bother me at all. That is your right. You getting childish and mocking me because you disagree is unacceptable and flat out rude! Additionally it is in violation of the code of conduct of this site. I would encourage you to change your attitude and treat other members here with respect in the future.
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: vaturkey on March 15, 2012, 10:00:37 PM
Quote from: BigHooks on March 12, 2012, 10:57:28 PM
OK guy's I know it's not a DSD an alot of you don't even use decoys what do you all think I beleave it will work. And it also looks pretty good. What do you think..
(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x343/bighooks1/IM000139.jpg)

Bighooks

For the money that's a great lookin decoy !  Good luck ! 

       vaturkey   :newmascot:
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: gob09 on March 16, 2012, 07:21:04 AM
i dont mean to but in on anyones thread but what about the beard my sneaky pete has a smaller one than the woody reckon a man could put a real jake beard on the deke and make it just a little more realistic
again i think they look great
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: Gamblinman on March 16, 2012, 08:04:30 AM
I bought the Carrylite this year to test out a semi-strut. I really like one of its features. I can stick my foam hen decoys and all the stakes inside the belly.
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: vaturkey on March 16, 2012, 09:30:56 AM
Quote from: gob09 on March 16, 2012, 07:21:04 AM
i dont mean to but in on anyones thread but what about the beard my sneaky pete has a smaller one than the woody reckon a man could put a real jake beard on the deke and make it just a little more realistic
again i think they look great

I think if a gobbler gets close enough to see the beard on your decoy then you should be slinging lead ! JMO   :newmascot:
Title: Re: HS Jake Decoy
Post by: lightsoutcalls on March 16, 2012, 12:36:48 PM
Quote from: Shotgun Dave on March 15, 2012, 09:00:49 PM
I think it looks great Big Hooks . Think you made a wise choice with your Decoy . It's not a DSD so what . I think DSD is an imitation of what Our Lord made for us . HS just copied the same mold that  DSD did . I thought all decoys were imitations !!! God made The Wild Turkey not any man or company . They all stole God's mold and yes it is perfectly legal . I'm sure it will work great for you . Have a Blessed season !!!   Just my $1.00s worth 

I don't think Dave Smith intended for anyone to eat his decoys, but I think that God would be fine with it if you eat His creation. 

Dave Smith obviously has incredible talents at sculpting 3 dimensional reproductions.  I have a hard time understanding your bringing God into an argument that is more an issue of supporting an American craftsman as opposed to underpaid chinese knock-off artists.  That comes across as though you are using God like a bully would use a stick to make your point.  Please don't cheapen God and His creation that way.

As there are no naturally occurring wild turkeys in China, I suspect that the HS decoy was likely more of a copy of a copy rather than a copy of an original.  I also think that was the point being made in the comment that you responded to.

Each person has a right to choose the item that fits their need and their budget.  I don't think anyone has an issue with that.  There are some American made products that I would like to have but can't afford to buy... I would if I could, I assure you.  I also recognize as a custom callmaker that birds have been called in with calls purchased at less than what my calls sell for.  I don't lose sleep over that, but would be glad to sell a person a hand-made call as an alternative to one made by CNC or poured from a melted solution.

  I know bb personally and have had the privelege of hunting with him.  I can confidently say that his post was not an effort to attack the original poster, but an effort to share observations and experience... something that some of us here do appreciate.