just wondering what is the best and the cheapest turkey load out there? I'm not feeling 22 dollars for a box of 5 hevi shot.
that sounds like 2 different questions,,,,,,,,,
For the money WW HV 1 3/4oz #5s or #6. A lead load that gets the job done. When my current supply of Hevi is gone I'm going back to them. $22 for 5 hevi is now a very good deal. One mail order company has them listed at $49.95 for FIVE.
Winchester gray box 1-7/8oz #6
the Whin. HV #6's are a pretty well rounded lead load
As others have mentioned, the win supreme HV lead loads are as goodas you can get for lead loads that are reasonably priced and extremely effective. Rogers sporting goods also has some federal pre FC wad loads that may be even better than the winchesters and they are reasonably priced as well.
Yes they are as good as the winnys...better in fact! Rogers has them for $8.99/ box of the 3.5/2/6s at 1300 fps. :OGturkeyhead: I ordered 2 boxes shipped for a few cents less than the Win Supreme 3.5/2/6s at walmart after tax.
Quote from: Extremesolo on March 06, 2012, 12:43:23 PM
...Rogers sporting goods also has some federal pre FC wad loads that may be even better than the winchesters and they are reasonably priced as well.
Indeed! But they're soon to be extinct. :(
Win HV Supreme 3 1/2, 2 1/4oz 6's i get'em for 12-15 a box usually, just depends on the store
Win Grey Box 1-7/8oz 6s. $6.96 at Walmart. I made nearly 50yds with some rigs and that load. Most rigs will easily make 40 with them and quite a few will make 45.
Quote from: stinkpickle on March 06, 2012, 01:10:22 PM
Quote from: Extremesolo on March 06, 2012, 12:43:23 PM
...Rogers sporting goods also has some federal pre FC wad loads that may be even better than the winchesters and they are reasonably priced as well.
Indeed! But they're soon to be extinct. :(
So how many did you buy? :TooFunny:
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on March 06, 2012, 02:29:56 PM
Quote from: stinkpickle on March 06, 2012, 01:10:22 PM
Quote from: Extremesolo on March 06, 2012, 12:43:23 PM
...Rogers sporting goods also has some federal pre FC wad loads that may be even better than the winchesters and they are reasonably priced as well.
Indeed! But they're soon to be extinct. :(
So how many did you buy? :TooFunny:
Let's just say I refuse to answer, because the amount I possess might get me labeled a "domestic terrorist". :D
My vote gose for the Winchester HV #6 either 3" or 3.5"
Don,t overlook winchester xx 2 and 2 1/4 oz. Loads.
As far as loads that shouldn't disappear anytime time soon goes, any of the Winchester offerings (Super X, Double X, or HV) would be a good start.
Quote from: stinkpickle on March 06, 2012, 02:55:37 PM
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on March 06, 2012, 02:29:56 PM
Quote from: stinkpickle on March 06, 2012, 01:10:22 PM
Quote from: Extremesolo on March 06, 2012, 12:43:23 PM
...Rogers sporting goods also has some federal pre FC wad loads that may be even better than the winchesters and they are reasonably priced as well.
Indeed! But they're soon to be extinct. :(
So how many did you buy? :TooFunny:
Let's just say I refuse to answer, because the amount I possess might get me labeled a "domestic terrorist". :D
Hahaha. I sent a pic of about half of my pb turkey ammo to a buddy and he bout had a heart attack. When I told him it was only about half of it and all I could fit in frame he did. Then I showed him how much htl I have and he had a stroke. Lol. Funny thing is...it isn't even close to what some guys have on here and let's just say I have enough to last me for about a slam every year for about 400 years. Lol
Thanks stinkpickle! I just HAD to log in to Rogers and order 3 more boxes of the Federal 6s after you posted. I swear its like eating lays potato chips...you can never have just...15 boxes! :TooFunny:
Quote from: Gooserbat on March 06, 2012, 03:00:18 PM
My vote gose for the Winchester HV #6 either 3" or 3.5"
I agree. It's a shame that Federal discontinued the "Old" Federal Premium loads though. The Win. HV loads are hard to beat.
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on March 06, 2012, 03:45:28 PM
Thanks stinkpickle! I just HAD to log in to Rogers and order 3 more boxes of the Federal 6s after you posted. I swear its like eating lays potato chips...you can never have just...15 boxes! :TooFunny:
Gotsta keep that economy rolling... ;)
I have killed many turkeys with Win Double X #5's. I hated the old Federals. It just doesn't hit the birds as hard IMO.
Quote from: MOStrutter on March 06, 2012, 04:33:52 PM
I have killed many turkeys with Win Double X #5's. I hated the old Federals. It just doesn't hit the birds as hard IMO.
A #5 winchester pellet and a #5 federal pellets leaving the barrel at the same velocity are gonna hit just as hard as the other...
Quote from: stinkpickle on March 06, 2012, 04:17:36 PM
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on March 06, 2012, 03:45:28 PM
Thanks stinkpickle! I just HAD to log in to Rogers and order 3 more boxes of the Federal 6s after you posted. I swear its like eating lays potato chips...you can never have just...15 boxes! :TooFunny:
Gotsta keep that economy rolling... ;)
Well, if you ever feel the need to justify buying more, I'll give you my address and you can send me some!
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on March 06, 2012, 04:36:54 PM
Quote from: MOStrutter on March 06, 2012, 04:33:52 PM
I have killed many turkeys with Win Double X #5's. I hated the old Federals. It just doesn't hit the birds as hard IMO.
A #5 winchester pellet and a #5 federal pellets leaving the barrel at the same velocity are gonna hit just as hard as the other...
HEY! Don't you go bringing physics and logic into this discussion. They have no place here.
Federal #5 with the flight control wad. In my opinion the federal loads before the flight control wad were junk.
Quote from: chipper on March 06, 2012, 03:08:01 PM
Don,t overlook winchester xx 2 and 2 1/4 oz. Loads.
I like the double X better myself. I prefer the heavier payload.
Winchester Supreme High Velocity Turkey Ammunition 12 Gauge 3-1/2" 2 oz #6 Copper Plated Shot Box of 10
Killed a few with these over the years.....
I've had good luck with Remington Nitros #5's . 3" with 1 7/8oz. lead shot @$9-10.00 a box of 10.
Flyrodder
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Quote from: MOStrutter on March 06, 2012, 04:33:52 PM
I have killed many turkeys with Win Double X #5's. I hated the old Federals. It just doesn't hit the birds as hard IMO.
Quote from: MOStrutter on March 06, 2012, 04:33:52 PM
I have killed many turkeys with Win Double X #5's. I hated the old Federals. It just doesn't hit the birds as hard IMO.
I'm not pickin' an argument.. and were all intitled to our opinion's...But,I'd have to say....
Wow :o Not too many would say that. Them old Fed's were flat out awesome. I flattened a few birds with them and they patterned great. If they still made them I'd be shootin em.
Quote from: coyotetrpr on March 06, 2012, 07:21:07 PM
Federal #5 with the flight control wad. In my opinion the federal loads before the flight control wad were junk.
I don't think many on here would agree with that statement including myself but it seems your experiences with these loads are different.
Quote from: WildTigerTrout on March 06, 2012, 08:59:28 PM
Quote from: coyotetrpr on March 06, 2012, 07:21:07 PM
Federal #5 with the flight control wad. In my opinion the federal loads before the flight control wad were junk.
I don't think many on here would agree with that statement including myself but it seems your experiences with these loads are different.
:agreed:
Winchester XX Magnum(red box) 3.5" 2-1/4oz #5's
Quote from: WildTigerTrout on March 06, 2012, 08:59:28 PM
Quote from: coyotetrpr on March 06, 2012, 07:21:07 PM
Federal #5 with the flight control wad. In my opinion the federal loads before the flight control wad were junk.
I don't think many on here would agree with that statement including myself but it seems your experiences with these loads are different.
I used these shells some. EVERY bird I shot with these shells got back up. These are the only shells I haven had this problem with. The flight control wad shells hammer turkeys.
I used these shells for years especially the 3.5" 2-1/4oz #5 load until they got hard to find then I switched over to Winchester
I don't know what kind of problem you were having(choke,gun or both)
but I promise you this,of the 30-40 birds I took with these shells,not one"got back up"
Now my arguement comes with a bad experience with the Fed shells. I once had to shoot a turkey twice and then still had to fight it to get ahold of its neck. And yes the turkey was well in range and I did not make a bad shot(s). Never shot another Federal shell of any sort for a few years after that. The Winchester XX 5's flat out rock turkeys.
Quote from: MOStrutter on March 07, 2012, 11:49:25 AM
Now my arguement comes with a bad experience with the Fed shells. I once had to shoot a turkey twice and then still had to fight it to get ahold of its neck. And yes the turkey was well in range and I did not make a bad shot(s). Never shot another Federal shell of any sort for a few years after that. The Winchester XX 5's flat out rock turkeys.
maybe missouri turkeys are tougher, because that is exactly what happened with every turkey I shot with these loads.
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on March 06, 2012, 04:36:54 PM
Quote from: MOStrutter on March 06, 2012, 04:33:52 PM
I have killed many turkeys with Win Double X #5's. I hated the old Federals. It just doesn't hit the birds as hard IMO.
A #5 winchester pellet and a #5 federal pellets leaving the barrel at the same velocity are gonna hit just as hard as the other...
I know, I know...bringing physics and logic into the debate... :toothy12:
Unless they didn't pattern well, and assuming you DID actually pattern them ;) and they shot well, there is absolutely...possitively...ZERO difference between that pellet from your winchester load and the federal load when it gets to the turkey's head. Period. There is NO SUCH THING as one pellet of the same size and weight "hitting harder" than another. I lived and hunted in MO for ^ years...shot a lot of turkeys then and for a few years after and I can tell you with a certain they are no tougher than any other bird that strutts... Every single time I dropped the hammer on a bird in MO, there was a DEAD bird afterwards and at least 75% of them died to a federal lead load. They were of course also in range...but that is a whole other area for discussion isn't it? :TrainWreck1:
OP pm me the load you prefer to shoot and I can probably round you up a half box or maybe 3/4 of a box of shells for pretty cheap. I have several several boxes of lead loads that have a shell or 3 missing that I went through while patterning a few years back. I shoot Hevishot these days. :smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an
Quote from: coyotetrpr on March 07, 2012, 08:31:09 PM
Quote from: MOStrutter on March 07, 2012, 11:49:25 AM
Now my arguement comes with a bad experience with the Fed shells. I once had to shoot a turkey twice and then still had to fight it to get ahold of its neck. And yes the turkey was well in range and I did not make a bad shot(s). Never shot another Federal shell of any sort for a few years after that. The Winchester XX 5's flat out rock turkeys.
maybe missouri turkeys are tougher, because that is exactly what happened with every turkey I shot with these loads.
I am glad to see that I am not the only one who had horrible luck with these shells. They patterned fine and was told they were good but they just didn't work for me. I am trying Federal Turkey loads again this year however, but in the Heavyweight #7s.
Quote from: msgobblergetter on March 06, 2012, 07:27:37 PM
Quote from: chipper on March 06, 2012, 03:08:01 PM
Don,t overlook winchester xx 2 and 2 1/4 oz. Loads.
I like the double X better myself. I prefer the heavier payload.
Those are bad to the bone loads.
Quote from: goblr77 on March 06, 2012, 11:49:33 AM
Winchester gray box 1-7/8oz #6
:agreed:I seem to get good patterns with those out of all of my guns and at times i have been able to pick them up at Wal Mart for less than $10.00.
i had good luck with rem nitro turkey
Winchester Supreme #5 would be undoubted pick for low cost shells.
Win Supreme #5 or the Rem. Nitro # 5 both pattern REALLY well out of my Rem 870 Super mag with a Kicks .660!