I told my buddy his pattern was not good enough with 870. He has agreed to get a new choke and pattern it correctly. does anyone have a good starting point choke and shell wise to get him good. he does not have the money to buy a bunch and play around. thanks i. advance guys
What is he shooting now? What does he want to shoot for shells?
A simple switch to H13 3-2-6s with the same choke(if HD rated) will usually give a dramatic increase in range for those that are used to lead patterns.
H13 isn't cheap, but besides a range session to zero and check pattern counts, the few used in the field are peanuts compared to the cost of gas to get there and back.
If he's set on lead and wants a good choke that will not break the bank, I'd suggest the Primos JH in 660 or 665. Winchester HV lead 6s pattern well for most. Even the cheap grey box 3" Win 1-7/8oz 6s pattern pretty good.
If he wants an even cheaper lead turkey choke, I'd suggest ordering a Remington Ventilator and shooting Win 6s. That choke also patterns well with H13s.
Bad, What would you think about using the SuperMag with a Jellyhead .660 & Hevi 13 #6 ??
He would be better off getting a cheap choke that can shoot Hevi shot and use hevi13 3" 2oz #6s or #7s
Quote from: nyhunter on March 05, 2012, 11:19:00 AM
What is he shooting now? What does he want to shoot for shells?
i think factory full and winchester supremes, 4's patterned the best, but not good enough imop. good info guys
What kinda pattern is not good enough if you dont mind me asking. Most guns shooting the factory full w/ 4's shoot a good pattern out to 30 yds. I would rather see someone learn to call better and work the bird into a closer range, than to try and bust him at 40 or 50 yards. Just my .02
Quote from: Gobble! on March 05, 2012, 12:17:13 PM
He would be better off getting a cheap choke that can shoot Hevi shot and use hevi13 3" 2oz #6s or #7s
Agreed. The shell makes more of a difference than the choke in a lot of cases.
I'd go pick up a Primos Tightwad or Jellyhead and some Hevi 7's or Hevi Mag Blends and be done with it.
I know my jellyhead .665 and Win HV #6's knocked a lot of birds down out of my 870 and it didnt break the bank when I was in college. Hevi-shot if you can find a decent price will pattern better than lead out of about any choke
but on a budget the jellyhead for $40 and Win shells $13/10 shot good under 40yds every year
Kicks Gobblin thunder choke kills just as many turkeys as any choke on the market as does a Jellyhead or the Undertaker.Some Chokes are over priced and some are under priced,I Love my Undertaker,Jellyhead,Gobblin thunder and the Extra Full turkey choke that came with my gun,I Dont need to spend lots on a Choke to get my Tom,Guess i wait until there within 20-30 Yards and i am a good shot,Who knew.
Quote from: GrizzlyMan1980 on March 05, 2012, 04:31:04 PM
Kicks Gobblin thunder choke kills just as many turkeys as any choke on the market as does a Jellyhead or the Undertaker.Some Chokes are over priced and some are under priced,I Love my Undertaker,Jellyhead,Gobblin thunder and the Extra Full turkey choke that came with my gun,I Dont need to spend lots on a Choke to get my Tom,Guess i wait until there within 20-30 Yards and i am a good shot,Who knew.
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well said!!! most people who shoot turkeys at 45-70 yards couldnt either call or are impatient. let him work you! Id like to see of of yall out here bow hunt a louisiana whitetail.
Get a .665 Jellyhead and some Hevi #6 or #7 and call it a day.
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Glad i aint alone on that. i deer hunt with a pse xforce gx that rigged out shoots 319-320 fps @60lbs and could kill deer easily at 50 but i stop at 40. Turkeys i draw the line at 40 but rarely shoot until 30 or closer. Hunting wild game is a sport not a contest. respect game enough to provide clean kills
Getting 130's in 10"@40 yds with a cheap Truglo TG170X out of a 3" chamber 870 express shooting WinHV 5's
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Quote from: Reloader on March 05, 2012, 11:36:16 AM
A simple switch to H13 3-2-6s with the same choke(if HD rated) will usually give a dramatic increase in range for those that are used to lead patterns.
I agree, and if the gun came with a Wingmaster HD, I personally wouldn'y buy another tube. As that tube will do just as well, or better than some name brand tubes with the Hevi.
Quote from: GrizzlyMan1980 on March 05, 2012, 10:47:49 PM
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Quote from: GrizzlyMan1980 on March 05, 2012, 04:31:04 PM
Kicks Gobblin thunder choke kills just as many turkeys as any choke on the market as does a Jellyhead or the Undertaker.Some Chokes are over priced and some are under priced,I Love my Undertaker,Jellyhead,Gobblin thunder and the Extra Full turkey choke that came with my gun,I Dont need to spend lots on a Choke to get my Tom,Guess i wait until there within 20-30 Yards and i am a good shot,Who knew.
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well said!!! most people who shoot turkeys at 45-70 yards couldnt either call or are impatient. let him work you! Id like to see of of yall out here bow hunt a louisiana whitetail.
Lol.All i do is Bow hunt ,I am in the Bush hunting for 3 months every fall and for 5 weeks in the Spring,I Took 2 Bucks last year with my Bow.I Find it funny i hear a lot of Yankees and a few canucks talk about killin birds at 65 yards,Maybe you connect on a hail mary once and awhile but to me thats like taking a 80 Yard Bow shot,Yes it can be done but ,Seriously,Get the bird closer and if you cant ,Dont shoot,But each to there own,Im more then capable of Killing deer at 55 yards with my bow and shootin a tom at 50 Yards,I Choose not too,Each to there own.Good Huntin this Spring and wait until i mount my Scope i went Post a Pic of the "Turkey Slayer"
Nice Bow i own a 2009 Pse X-Force TS Gx Cam Bow,2010 Pse Vendetta xs,2010 Pse X-Force Axe 6 and a 2011 Pse Vendetta XL.I am on Archerytalk more then this sight,Do you go on Archerytalk?Im defintily more of a Bow guy then Gun guy,But turkey huntin is my favourite and i prefer a Shotgun for Bird hunting but still hunt with my Bows as well.
no never been there.
Great Website to get great deals on Archery equipment,Most guys are great on there,But theres a lot of Idiots as well and alot of Arguing over which Bow is best,Lol.Im glad i found this sight,I am a Die hard Turkey hunter.Gonna put together a Do it myself back up Turkey Gun in 20 gauge,Gonna buy an old beater and get it dipped and set it up to my liking.Something to do,It will be a Good back up.Probably gonna go wit ha Pump again.
I love my 870sm and my backup is my browning belgium auto 5 12 gauge