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Title: Trigger Weight
Post by: crenshawco on March 04, 2012, 09:34:45 PM
This may be a dumb question and I know most people don't fool with the pull weights on shotguns, but I was wondering if any of yall lowered the pull weight on turkey guns. I never notice on birds really but it seems so stiff when I'm patterning
Title: Re: Trigger Weight
Post by: bird on March 04, 2012, 09:48:03 PM
I did change the sear spring in my 870SM this year.
Title: Re: Trigger Weight
Post by: Reloader on March 04, 2012, 10:35:18 PM
I like 3lbs on  a turkey gun, but anything from 2.5-4 is just fine.  I have one at 2.25, but most are in the 2.75-3.5 range.
Title: Re: Trigger Weight
Post by: Spurcollecta on March 04, 2012, 10:41:37 PM
I installed a Timney on my 870 and I love it!
Title: Re: Trigger Weight
Post by: the Ward on March 05, 2012, 04:19:17 AM
That is one of the best upgrades you can do imo.We do alot of turkey/card shoots and it makes a big difference.most shotgun triggers are pretty heavy from the factory,the last gun i had done was an 870 and we tested its pull,it was just over 9# on the scale!We set it at a hair over 4.5 and it made a HUGE difference!I usually like to have mine around 4 to 4.5#,as we ofen hunt or shoot in cold weather and with gloves on or cold fingers you don't want something too light!I say go for it,you will be glad you did!....ward
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Post by: VaTuRkStOmPeR on March 05, 2012, 05:21:27 AM
An often overlooked but integral step towards optimizing accuracy!
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Post by: archery1 on March 05, 2012, 07:01:07 AM
never messed with it on my mossy... (lord  knows i want to)  but did it to several rifles and it does make a difference in accuracy
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Post by: nyhunter on March 05, 2012, 07:51:03 AM
I changed out the trigger springs all 3 of my 870's. It was very easy and a great improvement over the stock springs.
Title: Re: Trigger Weight
Post by: crenshawco on March 05, 2012, 07:56:15 AM
Thanks for the replies. Im glad to hear people do this. Does anybody have any general directions of how to do this? I'm shooting a browning gold hunter
Title: Re: Trigger Weight
Post by: VaTuRkStOmPeR on March 05, 2012, 08:56:33 AM
My gsmith took my browning silver trigger to 3 lbs with no creep and travel.
Title: Re: Trigger Weight
Post by: HuntSource on March 05, 2012, 09:13:32 AM
I believe a good trigger is quite important as well. A heavy, springy feeling trigger creates bad habits. Additionally, at minimum, if the pull is poor, good trigger mechanics can never become a second nature, muscle memory exercise. Of course, all this may create misses in the field.

Send it to a pro would be my suggestion. For me, it's not worth the time investment figure it out for a DIY or the risk involved potentially making a rookie mistake. I've used Rob Roberts in the past, most recently on a Benelli M2 20ga. His work has been fantastic and his turn times are quick. There are other very good shotgun gunsmiths out there too. I'm sure others will have good suggestions.
Title: Re: Trigger Weight
Post by: reynolds243 on March 05, 2012, 11:57:27 AM
man, does anyone know if you can do anything with the trigger pull on a Stoeger m3500. it is pretty heavy and i am not sure if anything can be altered on it to bring it down near 4-5 instead of the brisk 7 it pulls now.
Title: Re: Trigger Weight
Post by: k9hunter2 on March 05, 2012, 01:05:59 PM
Changed springs on all my remmys last year, they still have creep but pull is noticeably lighter
Title: Re: Trigger Weight
Post by: crenshawco on March 05, 2012, 02:54:22 PM
Anybody familiar with this process on a Browning Gold Hunter? I just called the local gun shop and asked them what they could do and the guy said that they cant really do anything to lower the pull weight on a semi-auto shotgun. Is this correct?
Title: Re: Trigger Weight
Post by: goblr77 on March 05, 2012, 03:39:36 PM
I put a partriot spring in my 870 20ga. My 835 and all my Berettas are factory.
Title: Re: Trigger Weight
Post by: Spurcollecta on March 05, 2012, 10:07:03 PM
Quote from: slickyboyboo on March 05, 2012, 10:20:38 AM
I changed the sear spring in my 12 ga 870 a few years back, and loved it. Debating on just changing the spring on my 20 ga or putting the Timmney in.

I've done both. Get the Timney. If you're ever around my neck of the woods you're welcome to try mine out...
Title: Re: Trigger Weight
Post by: VaTuRkStOmPeR on March 05, 2012, 10:14:27 PM
Quote from: crenshawco on March 05, 2012, 02:54:22 PM
Anybody familiar with this process on a Browning Gold Hunter? I just called the local gun shop and asked them what they could do and the guy said that they cant really do anything to lower the pull weight on a semi-auto shotgun. Is this correct?

That is incorrect.  Many smiths won't touch them but competent, capable ones are out there. 

My silver trigger was 6.5 lbs.  It is now 3 with no creep or travel.
Title: Re: Trigger Weight
Post by: crenshawco on March 05, 2012, 10:19:28 PM
Thanks that's what I figured. I'm going to call a few more and find somebody to do it
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Post by: archery1 on March 05, 2012, 10:21:10 PM
any fixes for the mossberg 835? or just get a timney ?
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Post by: Spurcollecta on March 06, 2012, 07:01:01 AM
Quote from: archery1 on March 05, 2012, 10:21:10 PM
any fixes for the mossberg 835? or just get a timney ?

I don't think timney makes an upgrade for mossberg. I could be wrong tho..,
Title: Re: Re: Trigger Weight
Post by: WildSpur on March 06, 2012, 07:08:24 AM
I checked their webpage too and from what I recall the 870 is the only shotgun trigger they offer.

I emailed mossberg a little over a month ago about a LPA trigger upgrade and never received a response.

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Title: Re: Trigger Weight
Post by: archery1 on March 06, 2012, 11:30:01 AM
NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH EMAILS TO MOSSBERG.
MAYBE TRY AGAIN?
Title: Re: Trigger Weight
Post by: sawtooth on March 06, 2012, 07:39:38 PM
My sons Mossberg 500 super bantam is in the shop now.  It was a 7 crazy lbs. from the factory but were taking her down to around 4 or 5lbs. 
Title: Re: Trigger Weight
Post by: crenshawco on March 06, 2012, 07:53:50 PM
Quote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on March 05, 2012, 10:14:27 PM
Quote from: crenshawco on March 05, 2012, 02:54:22 PM
Anybody familiar with this process on a Browning Gold Hunter? I just called the local gun shop and asked them what they could do and the guy said that they cant really do anything to lower the pull weight on a semi-auto shotgun. Is this correct?

That is incorrect.  Many smiths won't touch them but competent, capable ones are out there. 

My silver trigger was 6.5 lbs.  It is now 3 with no creep or travel.

I'm really having trouble finding somebody to do it for me. I've talked to a gun shop and 2 gun smiths and none of them will touch it.
Title: Re: Trigger Weight
Post by: mrclif on March 07, 2012, 08:20:43 AM
call Rob Roberts he'll hook you up. Good guy to work with.
Title: Re: Trigger Weight
Post by: sawtooth on March 18, 2012, 11:23:13 AM
picked it up yesterday and now the trigger is much improved.  There is about 1/8" take up on the trigger with no weight then you feel about 4.5lbs followed with a fairly crisp release.  Not sure why there is takeup but may be just how he had to take away the creep.  Anyway you can actually hold the gun steady now and it shoots great.  I beat the butt on the floor several times, shucked many shells through it off safety and all seems safe and well.
Title: Re: Trigger Weight
Post by: swamppirate on March 18, 2012, 11:52:41 AM
Quote from: slickyboyboo on March 05, 2012, 10:20:38 AM
I changed the sear spring in my 12 ga 870 a few years back, and loved it. Debating on just changing the spring on my 20 ga or putting the Timmney in.

Man, I love those Timneys...I've got them in two old Knight Mk-85's and they are great....probably the best shooting guns I own.
Title: Re: Trigger Weight
Post by: Rapscallion Vermilion on March 18, 2012, 12:39:48 PM
I just installed the Timney 870 kit on my 11-87 20 gauge and it is a huge improvement.  There is still a bit of residual creep, but it is very smooth with no grabbing.  I set the pull weight to just under 4 lbs (using my fish scale and coat hanger trigger pull gauge  :laugh:).  I haven't taken it to the range yet, but it has been killing imaginary turkeys left and right.
Title: Re: Trigger Weight
Post by: Gooserbat on March 19, 2012, 12:44:17 AM
Quote from: crenshawco on March 06, 2012, 07:53:50 PM
Quote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on March 05, 2012, 10:14:27 PM
Quote from: crenshawco on March 05, 2012, 02:54:22 PM
Anybody familiar with this process on a Browning Gold Hunter? I just called the local gun shop and asked them what they could do and the guy said that they cant really do anything to lower the pull weight on a semi-auto shotgun. Is this correct?

That is incorrect.  Many smiths won't touch them but competent, capable ones are out there. 

My silver trigger was 6.5 lbs.  It is now 3 with no creep or travel.

I'm really having trouble finding somebody to do it for me. I've talked to a gun shop and 2 gun smiths and none of them will touch it.

Check with Skeets Gun shop in Talaquaha OK all they do is shotguns and they are big Browning fans.  918 456 4749