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Title: Tried to pattern my 535 today...
Post by: turkeywhisperer on March 03, 2012, 03:46:07 PM
And it wasn't good.  Poi vs Poa is about a foot high.  Any suggestions?  The only solution I see is adding a scope or a red dot.  What about the truglo gobbledots?  Opinions?

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Title: Re: Tried to pattern my 535 today...
Post by: allaboutshooting on March 03, 2012, 04:09:25 PM
Quote from: turkeywhisperer on March 03, 2012, 03:46:07 PM
And it wasn't good.  Poi vs Poa is about a foot high.  Any suggestions?  The only solution I see is adding a scope or a red dot.  What about the truglo gobbledots?  Opinions?

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A foot high would be way out of specifications. That might stretch your sights to the limit, or beyond.

If this is a new gun or still under warranty, I'd recommend that you contact Mossberg.

If it's not, it might be possible to get a better relationship (POA/POI)  by switching shells or chokes. That might get you closer and allow a sight to get you where you need to be.

What brand, type of shells and choke are you shooting currently?

Thanks,
Clark

Title: Re: Tried to pattern my 535 today...
Post by: strut-n-rut on March 03, 2012, 04:36:19 PM
i have a truglo red dot on my 535 and i got it shooting really good
Title: Re: Re: Tried to pattern my 535 today...
Post by: turkeywhisperer on March 03, 2012, 04:51:25 PM
I noticed it when I was using the dove loads to get it close.  I have 2 chokes, the factory xfull Turkey choke and a hevi shot aftermarket.  After noticing it with the dove loads I also shot win hi velocity 3-5-1.75 and 3 magblends through it with no change in poi with either choke or different ammo.

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Title: Re: Re: Tried to pattern my 535 today...
Post by: turkeywhisperer on March 03, 2012, 06:32:44 PM
I guess that I should have included that these are the factory sights and sort of cheap... not the best in the world.

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Title: Re: Tried to pattern my 535 today...
Post by: antnye on March 03, 2012, 06:35:24 PM
My cousin has the same problem with his 535. About a foot high.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Tried to pattern my 535 today...
Post by: turkeywhisperer on March 03, 2012, 06:53:41 PM
Quote from: antnye on March 03, 2012, 06:35:24 PM
My cousin has the same problem with his 535. About a foot high.

How did he fix the problem?

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Title: Re: Tried to pattern my 535 today...
Post by: chipper on March 03, 2012, 08:32:34 PM
I'd contact Mossberg and ship it to them, They'll straighen out for you and make sure your happy.
Title: Re: Tried to pattern my 535 today...
Post by: MossbergMike on March 03, 2012, 08:55:32 PM
you forgot to call me! lol I think you might just have to send it back or get a red dot for it. And did I read that right you shot 3.5 out of that thug? ouch!
Title: Re: Tried to pattern my 535 today...
Post by: yelpy on March 03, 2012, 09:54:21 PM

I bought a 535 and took the factory junk sights off and put on the Williams fire sights. I had some trouble with it shooting high also but not that high. The fire sights when hunting out of a blind with my 10 year old nephew I noticed that they are hard to see until you have really good light because of the darkness of the blind. They do work well otherwise.
Title: Re: Tried to pattern my 535 today...
Post by: goblr77 on March 03, 2012, 10:11:38 PM
My current 835 is in the same boat. I scoped it with a Simmons Prodiamond 4x and Gamereaper mount. Couldn't be happier now. The 535 is a different animal IMO. It kicks like a mule with 3.5" loads and might give you scope eye. I would probably run a Burris FFII on it.
Title: Re: Tried to pattern my 535 today...
Post by: turkeywhisperer on March 03, 2012, 10:23:31 PM
Quote from: MossbergMike on March 03, 2012, 08:55:32 PM
you forgot to call me! lol I think you might just have to send it back or get a red dot for it. And did I read that right you shot 3.5 out of that thug? ouch!

No.. I think i put that info in wrong.  I think I should have put it as 3-1.75-5 winchester High Velocity.  I been turkey hunting a long time but new to the forum thing. lol..   No way I am shooting 3.5s in that thing.. I like my nose and cheekbones right where they are.  The 3" magblends kicked plenty hard enough.   :z-dizzy:
Title: Re: Tried to pattern my 535 today...
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on March 04, 2012, 09:48:08 AM
This is gonna sound off the wall, but is your barrel TIGHT?  Sometimes the metal parts just need to be SNUG and you'd be suprised how your poa/poi issues can just go away.  I had a 500 years back that if I didn't keep the barrel retention nut as tight as I could get her by hand and then give her one more click with a set of padded-jaw channel locks, she would shoot about a foot high.  As the nut got tighter, the pattern lowered untill it was nicely centered above the front bead.  Just a though, but I keep ALL of my turkey gun barrel nuts that tight. 
Title: Re: Re: Re: Tried to pattern my 535 today...
Post by: turkeywhisperer on March 04, 2012, 10:27:50 AM
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on March 04, 2012, 09:48:08 AM
This is gonna sound off the wall, but is your barrel TIGHT?  Sometimes the metal parts just need to be SNUG and you'd be suprised how your poa/poi issues can just go away.  I had a 500 years back that if I didn't keep the barrel retention nut as tight as I could get her by hand and then give her one more click with a set of padded-jaw channel locks, she would shoot about a foot high.  As the nut got tighter, the pattern lowered untill it was nicely centered above the front bead.  Just a though, but I keep ALL of my turkey gun barrel nuts that tight.

I did take it apart and clean it.. I will give it a try..
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Title: Re: Tried to pattern my 535 today...
Post by: Crobinson on March 04, 2012, 11:54:42 AM
I'm in the same boat. Just picked up a Muller quick shot & Indian creek choke. Heading out now to see if I can get it on paper.

I swore the last time shooting it that would be the last. This thing will kick the snot out of you and mine has the thumb hole stock.



Title: Re: Tried to pattern my 535 today...
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on March 04, 2012, 12:01:06 PM
Quote from: Crobinson on March 04, 2012, 11:54:42 AMI swore the last time shooting it that would be the last. This thing will kick the snot out of you and mine has the thumb hole stock.

Here ya go.  Added a little padding to the cheek riser.  No chipped eye teeth for this guy!   :TooFunny:  Seriously tho...chipped a friggin tooth last spring!   :'(

Title: Re: Re: Re: Tried to pattern my 535 today...
Post by: turkeywhisperer on March 04, 2012, 01:45:44 PM
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on March 04, 2012, 12:01:06 PM
Quote from: Crobinson on March 04, 2012, 11:54:42 AMI swore the last time shooting it that would be the last. This thing will kick the snot out of you and mine has the thumb hole stock.

Here ya go.  Added a little padding to the cheek riser.  No chipped eye teeth for this guy!   :TooFunny:  Seriously tho...chipped a friggin tooth last spring!   :'(

If I did add a red dot or reflex sight that would probably help in getting my face up higher so I wouldn't have to raise my head up to look through it... could keepy face down on the stock..


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Title: Re: Re: Tried to pattern my 535 today...
Post by: turkeywhisperer on March 04, 2012, 05:14:37 PM
Ok.. I went to sportsman's warehouse an bought a truglo sight with a taller front sight... almost 1/8 of an inch taller.  Gonna try that first and if that doesn't fix it then I will put a red dot or reflex sight on it.

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Title: Re: Tried to pattern my 535 today...
Post by: chadabear on March 04, 2012, 09:53:14 PM
I know the problem. I have fixed several 835 and 535's like this. The factory rear sight on ALL mossbergs 835 and 535 are set on the flat plane of the bbl vent rib. The objective of a rear adjustable sight is to move your poi up or down, most front sights are stationary. I had a buddy bring me his 535 tactical several yrs ago shooting 10-12" high, after adjusting the rear sight as far down as it would (which lowers poi) it still shot 10" high. I studied it real hard and on observing the vent rib, I noticed that if you slid the rear sight back, it would slide down as the rib got lower as it got closer to the shooter. TRUST me, i have since fixed MULTIPLE Mossberg high shooting problems with this. It is an easy fix, alot of people think the sights are no good, and cant be adjusted, but it is merely an act of sliding them back an inch or two to lower rear sight enough to bring the poi down. PLEASE, before you spend the $$, go and tryt what I am saying with some bird shot and see if it works...
Title: Re: Re: Re: Tried to pattern my 535 today...
Post by: turkeywhisperer on March 04, 2012, 10:23:30 PM
Quote from: chadabear on March 04, 2012, 09:53:14 PM
I know the problem. I have fixed several 835 and 535's like this. The factory rear sight on ALL mossbergs 835 and 535 are set on the flat plane of the bbl vent rib. The objective of a rear adjustable sight is to move your poi up or down, most front sights are stationary. I had a buddy bring me his 535 tactical several yrs ago shooting 10-12" high, after adjusting the rear sight as far down as it would (which lowers poi) it still shot 10" high. I studied it real hard and on observing the vent rib, I noticed that if you slid the rear sight back, it would slide down as the rib got lower as it got closer to the shooter. TRUST me, i have since fixed MULTIPLE Mossberg high shooting problems with this. It is an easy fix, alot of people think the sights are no good, and cant be adjusted, but it is merely an act of sliding them back an inch or two to lower rear sight enough to bring the poi down. PLEASE, before you spend the $$, go and tryt what I am saying with some bird shot and see if it works...

After looking at the rib and the way my sights sit on it I understand what your saying.  I will surely give it a try and thank you for the info.

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