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Title: Browning Maxus and Gold patterns with the factory full choke (Updated)
Post by: 8upbowhunter on February 22, 2011, 04:07:45 PM
I am new to this forum and turkey hunting so hello everyone.

Here are the results from patterning my Maxus and my son's Gold today. All shots were with the factory Invector Plus full choke from both guns at 40 yards at a 10" circle.

Browning Maxus
Shot1 - Winchester 3-1/2" 4 shot 2-1/4 oz = 36 hits
Shot2 - Winchester 3-1/2" 4 shot 2-1/4 oz = 27 hits
Shot3 - Winchester 3-1/2" 6 shot 2 oz = 43 hits
Shot4 - Winchester 3" 6 shot 1-3/4 oz = 24 hits
Shot5 - Remington 3" 4x6 shot 1-7/8 oz = 63 hits

Browning Gold
Shot1 - Winchester 3" 6 shot 1-3/4 oz = 41 hits
Shot2 - Remington 3" 4x6 shot 1-7/8 oz = 55 hits

Next week we will go pattern both guns with the Primos Jelly Head choke shooting the same loads and post our results here. Hopefully we can get a better pattern than we are currently getting from the factory chokes.




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Title: Re: Browning Maxus and Gold patterns with the factory full choke
Post by: Gobble! on February 22, 2011, 04:12:55 PM
looks like you got that bird but I would not feel too confident with that pattern
Title: Re: Browning Maxus and Gold patterns with the factory full choke
Post by: 8upbowhunter on February 22, 2011, 04:17:35 PM
I am not confident with that pattern either. I still have about 5 weeks till the season opens and a lot of shooting to do before. When my new choke comes in I will test the same loads with it to see if it gets any better and if not I guess I will buy a few more different loads and try them until I get a good pattern.
Title: Re: Browning Maxus and Gold patterns with the factory full choke
Post by: hookedspur on February 22, 2011, 04:25:07 PM
With the heavy loads and after market tubes available today you can put well over 200 maybe over 300 in that circle.
Title: Re: Browning Maxus and Gold patterns with the factory full choke
Post by: chipper on February 22, 2011, 04:49:53 PM
I would suggest the Hevi 13 #7,s and a indian creek choke if you'll look back a few pages you can see the pattern I shot last sunday with that combination of shot and choke out of the Invector plus bore.
Title: Re: Browning Maxus and Gold patterns with the factory full choke
Post by: stinkpickle on February 22, 2011, 04:51:07 PM
You might wanna try some Federals with the Flight Control Wads with that full choke, also.
Title: Re: Browning Maxus and Gold patterns with the factory full choke
Post by: 8upbowhunter on February 22, 2011, 05:53:49 PM
I ordered a Jelly Head choke that will be here in a few days and will check these loads with that choke next week. If I don't get a good pattern with it I will try a few different loads like the Hevi 13's and Federal flight control before ordering a new choke. I've read good things about the Indian Creek chokes and may give it a shot if I can't get good results from the Primos.
Title: Re: Browning Maxus and Gold patterns with the factory full choke
Post by: Reloader on February 22, 2011, 06:29:35 PM
I feel you will easily get over 100 with the JH and the lead 6s.  Turkey chokes perform so much better than factory fulls for shots past 30-35yds IME, even cheap chokes.  I would get away from the 4s, they simply are not needed for turkey hunting and usually provide terrible patterns.

I agree with Stink, if you are gona go flush full, the FC wad is the ticket.  They aren't worth a hoot compared to Win loads in turkey chokes IME.  One of my buddies had patterns with FCs nearly as good with a flush mod as he did with a turkey choke in his Extrema.  I've seen the FCs pattern better out of some turkey chokes than others, but they just don't seem to hang with Win from the right choke when it comes to lead.

Hevi will make even a flush full a turkey killer if you don't desire long range.  Hevi in your new JH will open your eyes.  Just remember that the higher the counts the less wiggle room you have on close shots.

Good Luck

Reloader
Title: Re: Browning Maxus and Gold patterns with the factory full choke
Post by: 8upbowhunter on February 22, 2011, 07:30:11 PM
I never really planned to hunt with the flush full. It was more of something to do today and have something to compare the JH tube with when it comes in. I will continue to try different loads / chokes until I get the right combination. The more I read here I notice more hunters are shooting 6 & 7 shot so I may try more of these loads to see how they perform.  Thanks for all the replies and advice.
Title: Re: Browning Maxus and Gold patterns with the factory full choke
Post by: Gold Spur on February 22, 2011, 08:06:51 PM
My Browning Gold with a 24" barrell patterns good with H-13 3.5" 7"s , through a IC .665 choke. I can get 280 hits @ 40yds. The H-13 3.5" 6"s pattern good also.
Title: Re: Browning Maxus and Gold patterns with the factory full choke
Post by: GOLD HUNTER on February 22, 2011, 08:34:49 PM
Ive got a gold and just get a ic.675 for the hevi-shot and a ic.665 for copper you will gey in the 200's + E-Z.

brian
Title: Re: Browning Maxus and Gold patterns with the factory full choke
Post by: 8upbowhunter on February 27, 2011, 11:48:37 AM
Went pattern again today with the Jellyhead choke. All shots were at 40 yards at a 10" circle with factory sight bead. The results were better but no where near what I expected. Maybe I will try some Hevi 13's and Federal next time out.

Maxus

Winchester 3.5" 2-1/4 oz 4 shot = 62 hits
Remington 3" 1-7/8 0z 4x6 shot = 42 hits
Winchester 3" 1-3/4 oz 6 shot = 52 hits
Winchester 3.5" 2 oz 6 shot = 99 hits

Gold

Winchester 3" 1-3/4 oz 6 shot = 96 hits
Remington 3" 1-7/8 oz 4x6 shot = 58 hits

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Title: Re: Browning Maxus and Gold patterns with the factory full choke (Updated)
Post by: TheSportsman on February 27, 2011, 07:05:09 PM
Dead bird BUT give the Hevi 13 2 1/4oz 6s and 7s a try.  Esp. the 7s.
Title: Re: Browning Maxus and Gold patterns with the factory full choke (Updated)
Post by: Gobble! on February 27, 2011, 07:11:59 PM
have you gave the barrels a good deep clean or a polish job before? if not you may want to try it because it usually greatly increases patterns
Title: Re: Browning Maxus and Gold patterns with the factory full choke (Updated)
Post by: sugarray on February 27, 2011, 07:43:34 PM
Just changing to #6 makes a big difference.  As soon as folks realize this, the ammo makers with stop making turkey loads in anything but #5s and #6s.  Out to 40 yds that is a killer every time.
Title: Re: Browning Maxus and Gold patterns with the factory full choke (Updated)
Post by: Reloader on February 27, 2011, 08:03:32 PM
Try shooting at large sheets of paper next time out.  Shooting small targets will not tell you much.  Your patterns may be centered far off of the 10" predrawn circle targets.  A good many shotguns, regardless of make, will not shoot true to the bead. Chokes can have very different POIs from the same gun as well.

You can buy contractors paper in rolls 35" wide x 140' long at hardware stores, Home Depot, or Lowes for 10-12 bucks a roll. Shoot, then draw your circles around the most dense portion of the pattern. You may find you need adjustable sights.

Have a good one,

Reloader
Title: Re: Browning Maxus and Gold patterns with the factory full choke (Updated)
Post by: gophert on February 27, 2011, 08:14:03 PM
Quote from: TheSportsman on February 27, 2011, 07:05:09 PM
Dead bird BUT give the Hevi 13 2 1/4oz 6s and 7s a try.  Esp. the 7s.

Take that lead shot and throw it in the trash and go get you some Hevi 13 #7's.  You will never look back or waste your money on more ammo. 
Title: Re: Browning Maxus and Gold patterns with the factory full choke (Updated)
Post by: 8upbowhunter on February 27, 2011, 08:26:25 PM
Thanks for the advice and patience everyone. This is basically my first year turkey hunting and I am new to most of this. I'll drop by home depot and get a roll of contractors paper and give it another try to see where my gun is shooting and what the true pattern looks like. I will also get some Hevi 13's and give them a try.

My gun may be shooting off to one side but my gun isn't drilled and tapped for a scope so I guess that's out for this year. Are there any adjustable sights that do not require the receiver to be drilled and tapped?

Thanks for the help everyone.
Title: Re: Browning Maxus and Gold patterns with the factory full choke (Updated)
Post by: goldenhunter on February 27, 2011, 09:31:57 PM
Quote from: 8upbowhunter on February 27, 2011, 08:26:25 PM


My gun may be shooting off to one side but my gun isn't drilled and tapped for a scope so I guess that's out for this year. Are there any adjustable sights that do not require the receiver to be drilled and tapped?


Try these:
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=671251
Title: Re: Browning Maxus and Gold patterns with the factory full choke (Updated)
Post by: Reloader on February 27, 2011, 09:40:12 PM
It should be over in the paint section at HD.

Yep, the William US or Tru Glo Pro Series Magnum Gobble Dots will give you adjustment shall you need it.

Just remember that different ammo can have different POIs and different chokes can have different POIs as well.  Find what your gun likes and sight in for that.  You may find a combo that hits true to your bead, might not. 

Have a good one,

Reloader
Title: Re: Browning Maxus and Gold patterns with the factory full choke (Updated)
Post by: R AJ on February 27, 2011, 10:08:36 PM
Quote from: sugarray on February 27, 2011, 07:43:34 PM
Just changing to #6 makes a big difference.  As soon as folks realize this, the ammo makers with stop making turkey loads in anything but #5s and #6s.  Out to 40 yds that is a killer every time.

So they are going to quit making 7s? Only 5s and 6s? Buy 7s now folk.