I was wondering if anyone else gos out before season and calls gobblers in just for fun Iove to do it NOT TO KILL NOW :OGturkeyhead:
I never try to fool with calls preseason. I'm to worried about calling him in and getting busted. When I scout I just pull up a tree and listen.
Negative, ghost rider.
I personally do not do it nor do I believe in it. Not even locator calls. The way I look at it is that season will be here soon enough and I can blast away on any call all I want. Let them have their time right now. I do, however, love to go listen and scout around preseason. Will even go as far as setting up on a gobbling turkey to see where he goes, but NO CALLS. When you call that bird in and there is no hen there he is getting educated early on and will instinctively learn from that experience. No turkeys can not reason, however they will adapt using strong survival instincs. Just my .02...
Jonathan
I will begin scouting and putting a few trail cameras on field scan mode out a couple weeks before season and will probably go out the weekend before so see where birds are roosting and look for other sign. I will eb taking my step-daughter out for youth season so that always allows me to get into the grove and see what the birds are up to before I get my chance
I will scout pre-season but I NEVER call. No way!
Nope
I don't think it is legal in Tn
I personally don't think you actually "educate" the bird by the act of calling but if you call him in and scare him off then I think you've started pressuring him uneccesarily and alerting him to the fact that more folks are getting in to the woods.
Id be much more interested in learning his patterns WITHOUT interfernce so that you can plan accordingly when the season hits. Just like in duck hunting, if you know where the birds want to be anyway, it's MUCH easier to call them in. If you just love watching turkey that much (I do too) do it at a distance and figure out what he wants to do naturally from day to day so you can know where to be waiting on him when the opener hits.
Quote from: jyoung on March 01, 2012, 08:48:38 AMWhen you call that bird in and there is no hen there he is getting educated early on and will instinctively learn from that experience. No turkeys can not reason, however they will adapt using strong survival instincs. Jonathan
No...calling will not necessarily "educate" a bird, they hear it all day every day. But when he is responding and coming to a "so called hen" there is no hen there, and she just disappears all of a sudden, it is not natural and don't be surprised if he is a little more reluctant to return the next time, when it really matters. :fud:
J
NO
It's my first commandment.... Thou shall not talk to turkeys before the season starts! ;D
I've never done it! I won't do it because of the reasons mentioned above.
I do it BUT ONLY in places I can't hunt. I would never do it in places I hunt at. All that does is educate the birds.
Quote from: RutnNStrutn on March 01, 2012, 01:29:54 PM
I do it BUT ONLY in places I can't hunt. I would never do it in places I hunt at. All that does is educate the birds.
I agree
TRKYHTR
I just like to sit and listen
Its tough to not break out the new calls and want to fire a a big flock of long beards in February and March while scouting but When I call a long beard in I better have something to kill him with in my hands. So I'll wait til season
Negatory good buddy!Couple of replies are real "head scratchers"but thats just me.
I absoloutely wont call before opening day. And I wont take anyone with me before season to listen and scout if they call before opening day.
i was taught and strongly believe that you should never call to a bird that you do not intend to kill , even if its a place i can not hunt. i would be very ill if i found someone calling to birds on one of my leases before hunting season,even if they didn't have a gun,like said earlier they do deserve some free time to just be turkeys
Quote from: twinters on March 01, 2012, 07:01:08 PM
i was taught and strongly believe that you should never call to a bird that you do not intend to kill , even if its a place i can not hunt. i would be very ill if i found someone calling to birds on one of my leases before hunting season,even if they didn't have a gun,like said earlier they do deserve some free time to just be turkeys
Point of clarification. I agree with you on that. However, the places that I call but don't hunt are places that NO ONE gets to hunt, except poachers. I would never screw up someone else's hunting opportunities anymore than I would my own.
I sit, listen, and follow from a distance if I can, never call.
I used to, when I was young and dumb, but no more. I'm not sure there is such a thing as being "call shy", but common sense tells me that any bird that is answering what he thinks is a hen, then gets spooked by a 2-legged predator, has to get somewhat educated. I'm sure it is like any other animal, some learn really well. Those are the ones that die of old age. Some don't, and those are the ones likely to take a ride in your truck with you.
right ,and i need them to be as dumb as possible,or they aint coming home with me(kinda like those girls i was running after when i was young)lol :drool:
Quote from: RutnNStrutn on March 01, 2012, 07:13:12 PM
Quote from: twinters on March 01, 2012, 07:01:08 PM
i was taught and strongly believe that you should never call to a bird that you do not intend to kill , even if its a place i can not hunt. i would be very ill if i found someone calling to birds on one of my leases before hunting season,even if they didn't have a gun,like said earlier they do deserve some free time to just be turkeys
Point of clarification. I agree with you on that. However, the places that I call but don't hunt are places that NO ONE gets to hunt, except poachers. I would never screw up someone else's hunting opportunities anymore than I would my own.
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TRKYHTR
I agree with the others I dont call until Im able to pack my old Winchester ;D.
I do it where i don't mostly private land
Quote from: pseshooter300 on March 01, 2012, 10:40:40 AM
I don't think it is legal in Tn
You are correct. It is not legal, starting one month prior to the season opening. I think this may just be on public lands. I'm not sure if it applies to private ground or not.
I do not call a bird in before the season and hate it when I see guys trying to do it. That spooks a good many birds and only brings the pressure level up. I've spooked a good many birds over the years during the season and seen them totally change their patterns for a while.
That said, sometimes I will cut from a distance to see if an area is holding birds. I'll pull up in my truck a good ways away from where I think birds may be, most of the time I'll have a bunch of really thick underbrush inbetween myself and the area the birds should be. I'll listen a while and let natures own locator calls go to work. If I dont hear anything, I'll throw out an owl or crow(they hear them every day around here) and if that doesn't work, I'll cut one time before I leave for the next area. Human presence or calling a tom in to a setup with no hens around only adds pressure. I try not to scout an area until midday and never call when scouting. Sure you may bump some even scouting mid day, but as long as it's several days or weeks before the season and you only scout an area very little, it usually doesn't hurt. When it gets close to the season, all I do is listen from a distance and glass. if the terrain allows.
I do it in places I hunt(all private),now granted I don't go out everyday and call to them, but I have never had a problem filling my tags while doing this.
I have in the past and have some pictures of a tom gobbling at about 10 steps. He was gobbling to the flash on the camera. It was pretty cool to see, but have never done it since.
I'm to worried about calling him in and getting busted. When I scout I just pull up a tree and listen.
+1
At the least---I consider it bad karma to call before season.
So,if I go to my farm and call to my turkeys pre season, I'm hurting my chances of killing turkeys?
Quote from: Flydown on March 02, 2012, 07:36:43 PM
So,if I go to my farm and call to my turkeys pre season, I'm hurting my chances of killing turkeys?
No, cause yall got turkeys out the A$$ ! :drool: