Can you guys fill in a norhern rookie, on trumpet calls.. ???
To start with there are 2main styles the first being a Jordan style which is made from cane and or bamboo with a wingbone mouth piece. That being said you will find from mild to wild on the outside design. It is each call makers choice on that. The internals may vary in hole sizes slight but most are close to the same diameter. They may and will most likly differ in lengths of each hole depending on what sound the call maker is trying to get
Second is the Turpin style which has tapered internals. The hole diameters and length will vary from callmakwr to callmaker. With these there are as many different internal and external configuration as there are callmakers and some callmakers have more than one version
That's just a fast simple intro to them. They take time to learn to run. Most won't pick one up and be fluent with it as soon as they start using one. The cost can run from 30 bucks to several hundred. Most are in the 75 to 150 buck range depending on options like ivory mouth piece or different materials
Kehl
Thanks Flatliner :thanks:
The first call pictued here is my style of a JORDAN the second is my version of a TURPIN
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Nice trumpets!
The Jordan is the one I took 2nd place with at the 2011 Nationals
Very nice , thanks for the info again, you've got me interested now.
Those are some good looking calls! :icon_thumright: What kind of burl is that Jordan? I like the looks of it :drool:
Did Bill Lester add anything particularly unique to trumpets with his baffle system?
I don't own one and don't fully understand what he added because I have not seen the internals, but he talks it up at shows and claims that it makes a trumpet easier to work.
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Not sure if it makes any difference. I have seen or ran his calls or even heard that he baffles them. I know steve lumma puts something like a baffle in his I know they are very decreeing but unsure if they make a diffence next time I talk to him I'll ask him and see what he thinks
Baffling a call is important, the internals for each call maker is somewhat different in the fact that they have their own version of baffling, or even to the point as to not baffle a call at all. Baffling to me makes the call run easier, like baffling a tube call, air intake is compressed somewhat. (http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e182/ace250semo/Project294.png)
Here is one of my calls, this one took me a first the Minnesota contest this year, it is baffled and the internals are the same setup that won the 2011 Midwest Nationals in Wisconsin........ :-\ ....but for some reason they just won't work when it comes to the Grand Nationals in Nashville??? Go figure.
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The trumpet in the bottom of the picture is not baffled, but the internals take up the slack as they are different and compress the incoming air pretty well on their own...pappy
A true Jordan is suppose to be a 3 piece call made from cane and wingbones. Either the mouthpiece and middle section being bone and the bell cane...or....wingbone mouthpiece and the other two sections cane.
As for the baffling, I perfer to do my own baffling. Manipulating the air with my middle finger. I've always suspected the baffles where to keep others from looking inside the trumpet. When you look through one, you should see a perfectly round hole on the end. When one is baffled by having something stuck in the end, it would seem to me that you then have a call that the callmaker has pre-determined the volume at which you can call.
You are right about the Jordan. A true Jordan is as you stated. Im noy sure where along the line that what most consider a jordan these days started to evolve. Would like to see G8CALLS jump in he knows alot about the history and could probable shed some light and probable give some dates on the time lines of when each call started
Kehl
The baffle helps control the air movement of the call, making it "easier" for the player. I have played around with the idea but I have failed to come up with a baffle that does not handicap my call. I maybe putting the baffle in the wrong place because either I ease the play and loose dynamic range or muffle the sound altogether.
I find I can achieve the same effect with my figure/hand over the bell and this allows me freedom to make the call work how I want.
I have a question on trumpets regarding the 2 styles. What if your running a tapper and straights? Hybrid? or is there a "proper" name?
I think it is still considered and Turpin
Quote from: M Sharpe on March 03, 2012, 07:40:57 AM
A true Jordan is suppose to be a 3 piece call made from cane and wingbones. Either the mouthpiece and middle section being bone and the bell cane...or....wingbone mouthpiece and the other two sections cane.
As for the baffling, I perfer to do my own baffling. Manipulating the air with my middle finger. I've always suspected the baffles where to keep others from looking inside the trumpet. When you look through one, you should see a perfectly round hole on the end. When one is baffled by having something stuck in the end, it would seem to me that you then have a call that the callmaker has pre-determined the volume at which you can call.
I agree with the Jordan style comment but I do not agree with the baffling comment whole heartedly, every call maker has a privacy issue with their calls, that is a given, as far as covering the end so noone can see inside, I am certain that would not always be the case when it comes to baffling a trumpet from the bell end. Some have removable baffles, some don't, I really could care less if anyone looked inside my calls, after winning several competitions, it would be an honor to have someone investigate the call, and perhaps, help them to make their own. Seeing a perfectly round hole in the end of a call, would be nice, but I have seen many a great sounding trumpet made that was off internally to some degree, arguments over internals being tapered smooth verses stepped drilled, have existed as long as the trumpet, I am sure if you were to examine the "OLD MASTERS" you would see differences beyond your wildest dreams, but in the end, they all worked and worked well enough to justify their continuation over a period of a hundred or more years. So, I guess in the end, it is the call makers choice to baffle a call of leave it off, the buyers choice to choose one with or without a baffle....does it make a difference? It depends on who you ask....me, it doesn't....