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Turkey Guns & Shooting => 20 Gauge Turkey Guns => Topic started by: savduck on February 26, 2012, 03:49:28 PM

Title: Did a little shooting.......870 sum toy 562
Post by: savduck on February 26, 2012, 03:49:28 PM
Got the 20 ga 870 dialed in. Was shooting federal 3inch 7 heayweight with a sumtoy 562-5. I did not clean the gun between shots. Yardages were marked off with a surveyors steel tape. Shots at 20, 30 and 40.

I got the fast fire dialed into zero and shot a few at 30 and one at 40. The pattern was off a little from what I expected, I thought the numbers would be a little higher. I had two additional blank sheets on 11X17, one on either side, of the main target to make sure I was center. I feel confident I was. The 40 yard pattern opened up, as I thought it would be a little tighter. Guess my gun wants something a little tighter. All the patterns were very evenly spaced. I did not shoot anymore at 40, because I didnt want to waste another 4 dollar shell when I know the pattern is off. Im gonna clean it and then try again and see if that makes the difference.

At 30

Shot 1...............149 in the 8 inch circle, 45 additional if I took it to a 10 inch circle.....total in 10......194
Shot 2................153 in the 8 inch circle, 47 additional if I took it to a 10 inch circle....total in 10...200

At 40
Shot 1...........69 in 8 inch circle, 34 additional in the 10 inch circle........total at 40 in 10........103

Title: Re: Did a little shooting.......870 sum toy 562
Post by: savduck on February 26, 2012, 03:56:41 PM
PS......I was using a 4X4 sheet of 15/32 plywood as my target stand

None of the federal #7s penetrated completely through at 20 yards.
Title: Re: Did a little shooting.......870 sum toy 562
Post by: Fullfan on February 26, 2012, 05:21:42 PM
Humm intresting. I know I was shooting the 3" 12ga last year and @ 43 yds the #7's blew threw 3/8 chip board.

Wonder why your #'s where low??
Title: Re: Did a little shooting.......870 sum toy 562
Post by: Devastator on February 26, 2012, 06:34:32 PM
im sure sumtoy will get you hooked up with the right choke for your gun.
Title: Re: Did a little shooting.......870 sum toy 562
Post by: savduck on February 26, 2012, 08:41:09 PM
Im going to get with William about it. I spoke with another buddy. He also got some HW 7s from the same place as I and had the same issue. Great pattern at 30 and then blown out at 40. We got ours from the same place. He also shot his today.

My lot numbers on the two boxes I shot today are both 37UT456. Came from Dunns.
Title: Re: Did a little shooting.......870 sum toy 562
Post by: SumToy on February 26, 2012, 10:02:38 PM
This was odd.  I dont know how the barrel not clean will come into play with the Fed's.  When you brush it run a clean patch with alcohol on it down barrel to see if it comes out black.   I think it more about the choke dirty if anything.    This is one of the lowest guns I have seen.  So I think we need to look at it to see.  I have some shells we will try in it. 
Title: Re: Did a little shooting.......870 sum toy 562
Post by: savduck on February 26, 2012, 10:25:35 PM
William, Craig may come see you next weekend. I had planned to tag along so we could shoot it. Ill bring the patterns I shot today.


I want to keep a sum toy in this gun. Im really happy with the spread of the patterns. It stayed consistent from shot to shot. Just want more pellets at 40.
Title: Re: Did a little shooting.......870 sum toy 562
Post by: SumToy on February 27, 2012, 08:39:05 AM
Just odd it drop off that much.  With that shell I have not seen that much drop.  Was the wind up because I think that will come into play with the FCW more then others.   
Title: Re: Did a little shooting.......870 sum toy 562
Post by: savduck on February 27, 2012, 10:19:41 AM
Naw, no wind. I just saw a post though in our Gun forum on here that another guy thought he had #6s federals packaged as #7s. He did some counting and his numbers werent matching up. This has been an issue before from what I hear. I posted the lot #. Be curious to know if our ammo got jacked up.

Mine, Covehunter, and the other fella all got our stuff from Dunns. All three #s are off.
Title: Re: Did a little shooting.......870 sum toy 562
Post by: LAWRENCE BOY on February 27, 2012, 01:18:14 PM
cool
i did some shooting with my 20 ga hevi choke  and mag blends
at 40 i had 79 in a 7" at 40
Title: Re: Did a little shooting.......870 sum toy 562
Post by: Devastator on February 27, 2012, 04:59:55 PM
savduck,they are the same lot # as i have from last years 2 box's.the ones i have from cheaper than dirt are 37vt455 i just receieved a month ago
Title: Re: Did a little shooting.......870 sum toy 562
Post by: Devastator on February 27, 2012, 05:10:42 PM
what guns and chokes did the other fellas shoot?
Title: Re: Did a little shooting.......870 sum toy 562
Post by: savduck on February 27, 2012, 06:16:01 PM
Not sure what type of gun one of the guys shot. He said his was the 12 ga federal 7s though.....not 20s.

The other fella was shooting a 1300 winchester.
Title: Re: Did a little shooting.......870 sum toy 562
Post by: Cove on February 27, 2012, 06:46:40 PM
Mine are from a different lot.
Title: Re: Did a little shooting.......870 sum toy 562
Post by: jtharpe on February 29, 2012, 07:17:55 AM
My encore is having the same problems with the federals.
Best was 113 at 40. Im going to clean it and shot again and see what happens.
Mt shells came from midway and the lot number is 37VT455
Title: Re: Did a little shooting.......870 sum toy 562
Post by: darron on February 29, 2012, 07:24:27 PM
Quote from: jtharpe on February 29, 2012, 07:17:55 AM
My encore is having the same problems with the federals.
Best was 113 at 40. Im going to clean it and shot again and see what happens.
Mt shells came from midway and the lot number is 37VT455

I have the same lot # as you. I will be shooting mine here in the next couple weeks. If I can't get any better than 113 I will be sticking to my hevi 7's where I am getting 150's.
Title: Re: Did a little shooting.......870 sum toy 562
Post by: savduck on February 29, 2012, 08:27:54 PM
Here is one disected.

335 pellets. 107 red vinyl buffer disks.  Wad and powder.

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h173/dcrow77/0229122006-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Did a little shooting.......870 sum toy 562
Post by: jtharpe on March 01, 2012, 07:26:28 AM
What is the deal with the red balls in there? Are they hard plastic?
Title: Re: Did a little shooting.......870 sum toy 562
Post by: gaboy on March 01, 2012, 01:08:44 PM
Quote from: jtharpe on March 01, 2012, 07:26:28 AM
What is the deal with the red balls in there? Are they hard plastic?


they are plastic discs and used to as filler at the bottom of the wad so the wad is full when the shot is loaded.
Title: Re: Did a little shooting.......870 sum toy 562
Post by: surehuntsalot on March 04, 2012, 08:37:23 PM
some great patterns,should have no problems with those :icon_thumright: