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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Lead Shooters Section => Topic started by: tyelper on February 24, 2012, 02:44:50 PM

Title: black cloud
Post by: tyelper on February 24, 2012, 02:44:50 PM
anybody ever pattern any black cloud ammo
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Post by: Philippe on February 24, 2012, 03:43:58 PM
I have when i used it for ducks. Would never use it for turkey though.
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Post by: tyelper on February 24, 2012, 05:01:36 PM
talk to me!!!!!!!
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Post by: Philippe on February 24, 2012, 05:26:21 PM
What do you want to know about it? I shot 3 inch 2's out of a mossy 835 with a carlsons extended modified choke. It didnt live up to its hype, shot no different than cheapy federal blue box steel.
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Post by: tyelper on February 24, 2012, 05:54:01 PM
well i wasnt gonna shoot waterfowl ammo,,i was gonna try the 3'' 1 5/8 oz number 5
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Post by: surehuntsalot on February 25, 2012, 03:59:31 PM
Quote from: tyelper on February 24, 2012, 05:54:01 PM
well i wasnt gonna shoot waterfowl ammo,,i was gonna try the 3'' 1 5/8 oz number 5




???????
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Post by: wmahunter on February 25, 2012, 04:23:35 PM
It is just standard steel shot mixed with some rough-cut steel shot and I wouldn't shoot it at turkeys.
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Post by: tyelper on February 25, 2012, 06:46:16 PM
sorry guys i mislead you all its prairie storm not black cloud what im talking about is the heavy pheasant loads,,,,just curious if it would work,,,,,,

again sorry for the mis lead,,,,,,
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Post by: Philippe on February 25, 2012, 09:41:03 PM
Quote from: tyelper on February 25, 2012, 06:46:16 PM
sorry guys i mislead you all its prairie storm not black cloud what im talking about is the heavy pheasant loads,,,,just curious if it would work,,,,,,

again sorry for the mis lead,,,,,,

If it is the prairie storm LEAD version, yes it will work but i don't know how well it will pattern out of a tight turkey choke.
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Post by: tyelper on February 25, 2012, 10:53:34 PM
yes prairie storm lead my boy uses it to hunt birds i thought about pattering some of it,,,,
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Post by: surehuntsalot on February 25, 2012, 11:17:45 PM
now I got you,I would try it through a factory full choke first,I think you might be surprised
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Post by: Philippe on February 26, 2012, 06:44:58 PM
Quote from: tyelper on February 25, 2012, 10:53:34 PM
yes prairie storm lead my boy uses it to hunt birds i thought about pattering some of it,,,,

I actually used it for rabbit and squirrels outta my 20ga, does a number on them.
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Post by: fsu33952 on March 19, 2013, 09:16:28 PM
We patterned some of these Prairie Storm in 3" 1 5/8  in 5 shot, on Saturday. Killed a gobbler graveyard dead this morning at 39 yards through a browning full choke. His head was shot all to pieces. Turkey never flopped. His neck was broken in three places. I will shoot them any day.
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Post by: lowoctane on March 19, 2013, 10:32:39 PM
Out of curiosity, do you have the pattern pic available?   :camohat:
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Post by: remmy1187 on March 19, 2013, 11:06:47 PM
Does that load use the flitecontrol wad or is it just a field wad?
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Post by: budtripp on March 19, 2013, 11:15:33 PM
It uses the flight control wad. Very deadly on pheasants never tried it for turkeys
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Post by: sworntofun on March 19, 2013, 11:17:23 PM
Check out this video i found some time ago may answer some questions or make more .http://youtu.be/AGYESfmAJjk
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Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on March 20, 2013, 07:21:46 AM
All of the loads with flitestopper pellets use the FCW.
Title: Re: black cloud
Post by: fsu33952 on March 20, 2013, 10:30:34 AM
Quote from: lowoctane on March 19, 2013, 10:32:39 PM
Out of curiosity, do you have the pattern pic available?   :camohat:


I am pretty sure that I might just have it still. I will check and see this afternoon. At 20 yards the pattern was super tight. At 40 yard it shots as good as anything I have shot.
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Post by: surehuntsalot on March 20, 2013, 10:18:27 PM
in just about every gun that I have tried,the factory full choke 9 out of 10 times does real good with the fcw shells
you don't need a super tight turkey choke ti get these shells to work
Title: Re: black cloud
Post by: Mike Honcho on March 23, 2013, 07:47:37 PM
I am trying some in my grandsons Mossy 20 gauge bantam turkey with factory flush mount extra full...just a couple of quick shots today and haven't counted hits ( 30 yards for this gun) but it looks promising.
3" # 6 1 1/4 oz Prairie Storm.
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Post by: fsu33952 on April 17, 2013, 09:15:51 PM
Quote from: lowoctane on March 19, 2013, 10:32:39 PM
Out of curiosity, do you have the pattern pic available?   :camohat:

(http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj619/fsu33952/pattern.jpg) (http://s1270.photobucket.com/user/fsu33952/media/pattern.jpg.html)

Sorry it took so long.
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Post by: surehuntsalot on April 17, 2013, 11:13:10 PM
Quote from: fsu33952 on April 17, 2013, 09:15:51 PM
Quote from: lowoctane on March 19, 2013, 10:32:39 PM
Out of curiosity, do you have the pattern pic available?   :camohat:

(http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj619/fsu33952/pattern.jpg) (http://s1270.photobucket.com/user/fsu33952/media/pattern.jpg.html)

Sorry it took so long.




was this pattern shot with a factory full choke ?????
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Post by: fsu33952 on April 18, 2013, 07:13:49 AM
I went back and checked and it is with a carlson full choke not a browning choke. It was a browning shotgun but a carlson non-ported choke. Shot better than the compn choke, which is understandable now because I found out that you should use the flitecontrol wad in a ported choke. I bought a pure gold .670 non ported that was designed for the flight control which shot pretty good, but nowhere like the carlson choke. The carlson full is .710 and sticks out of the barrel about an inch. This barrel has had the forcing cone lengthened and polished as well.
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Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on April 18, 2013, 06:43:12 PM
Carlson uses .030 as their standard for Full choke.

Briley would call this Light Full.
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Post by: surehuntsalot on April 18, 2013, 08:18:53 PM
as I have said before,you can get some great patterns with the fcw by using the factory full chokes without spending hundreds of dollars on turkey chokes that may or may not pattern worth a crap
Title: Re: black cloud
Post by: fsu33952 on April 18, 2013, 09:17:46 PM
These prairie storm things shoot better than the federal premiums, Winchester extended ranges, or regular winchesters, however I did not try the Winchester extended range shells through my comp n choke. I will stick with these things. Especially at $25 a box of 25.
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Post by: the Ward on April 19, 2013, 06:25:19 AM
I've been curious about the fed fcw.For you guys using them,has anyone tried patterning them with a "black cloud" specific choke?I have a truloc black cloud full choke i use for waterfowl and i think when our season is over i might try running a few lead and heavyweight federal fcw type shells thru it just to see what happens,being those chokes are designed to work with them.This choke throws a mean pattern at 40 with bc 3s and 4s and also kent faststeel 4s.This choke mics out at .695 in a benelli crio,the stock full mics at .680 and the stock im.modified i believe is .700.This combo (fcw heavyweight-bc choke)has got me interested in what it would do.Guess i will have to try it now if nothing else just to satisfy my curiosity!....ward
Title: Re: black cloud
Post by: fsu33952 on April 19, 2013, 10:43:43 AM
The one thing that I am afraid of with this flight control wad as with a lot of the tight chokes is missing him a 10 yards. With these prairie storms you will actually see the wadding go down range. I have only ver noticed that a few other times.