Put up a 20 ounce bottle. As long as 5-8 pellets hitting it your good on turkey killing. No circles or range finders needed just results. Pellet counting vs energy.......seems dead is end result we want!
Won't work... you know those hevi 7s won't penetrate a plastic bottle, especially if there is a sticker on it! :TooFunny:
I like all the loads we have but a good 20 oz bottles sure works as a good check point!
I sure would be hesitant to hunt with my gun if i could only get 5 to 8 pellets in a 20 oz bottle.
There are approximately 79 square inches in a 10" cirlce. Assuming the old standard of 100 pellets minimum in 10 inch circle, I would feel better about 30 plus pellets in the soda bottle.
They sure are fun to shoot with a .22 tho!!!!
Just saying its easy to over look what it takes to kill
Oh. Well that is very true. I dont know how I every killed any turkeys with Copperplated 6s? I remember drawing a turkey shaped figure on some notebook paper and if I had a few hits, I was good to go. I also remember shooting some Soda bottles, but I would shake em up before I shot em!!!
Quote from: K9Doc on February 23, 2012, 12:24:12 AM
Oh. Well that is very true. I dont know how I every killed any turkeys with Copperplated 6s?
Aint that the truth! It didnt hit the wallet near as hard, I know that!
Won't work... you know those hevi 7s won't penetrate a plastic bottle, especially if there is a sticker on it :z-dizzy: wow! LOL
What I am saying is after you do your work...people always want to know how far they can shoot....if a shotgun puts 5-8 pellets in a 20 oz bottle or 100 what it lets one know is if they would kill the turkey.
Quote from: Spuriosity on February 23, 2012, 09:32:38 AM
No offense intended, Agturkey, but 5-8 hits on a 20 oz soda bottle is equivalent to 23-37 hits in a 10" circle, far from a sure kill. The soda bottle test also tells you nothing about POI vs POA. Your pattern could be off by a foot or more and still put 5-8 pellets in the soda bottle. Discouraging that sort of "patterning" is one of the best virtues of this forum IMO.
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Quote from: honker22 on February 22, 2012, 11:45:00 PM
Won't work... you know those hevi 7s won't penetrate a plastic bottle, especially if there is a sticker on it! :TooFunny:
This means war!!!! :TooFunny:
I keep wondering what is the purpose of this thread myself.
Quote from: bird on February 23, 2012, 06:51:28 PM
I keep wondering what is the purpose of this thread myself.
I was just thinking the very same thing, Al. Pointless.
The only ethical test is securing a minimum of 100 pellets in a 10" circle. This bottle testing doesn't tell you what your pattern is doing.
For the record, my max range is 40 yards.
why all the bad vibes about 7's not penetrating at 40 yards?on a water bottle!!!!!!!!!!!1
Quote from: Spuriosity on February 23, 2012, 09:32:38 AM
No offense intended, Agturkey, but 5-8 hits on a 20 oz soda bottle is equivalent to 23-37 hits in a 10" circle, far from a sure kill. The soda bottle test also tells you nothing about POI vs POA. Your pattern could be off by a foot or more and still put 5-8 pellets in the soda bottle. Discouraging that sort of "patterning" is one of the best virtues of this forum IMO.
I agree
I can see putting the coke bottle laying down, with the bottom end facing you, and if you put 6-8 pellets in it, your good to go. That's roughly a 2.5" circle. :angel9:
God Bless,
David B.
Quote from: flayer on February 23, 2012, 07:57:44 PM
why all the bad vibes about 7's not penetrating at 40 yards?on a water bottle!!!!!!!!!!!1
Because some people including myself are starting to question not the patterning abilities of the H-13 7's but rather some questionable inconsistencies of the penatration abilities of the load. But then there are those that refuse to believe that there could be such a problem with the H-13 7's.
what would be a good test to see if they are penetrating at 40 yds.?
Quote from: flayer on February 23, 2012, 08:44:49 PM
what would be a good test to see if they are penetrating at 40 yds.?
Inconsistency is the issue.
I wonder if inconsistency in volocity could be a factor here . has anyone played with idea ?
Quote from: hunter-b on February 23, 2012, 09:04:22 PM
I wonder if inconsistency in volocity could be a factor here . has anyone played with idea ?
Could possibly be but most everyone is blinded by the patterns that they throw.
bird: is it in the shot, or powder side not the same in each lot numbers? thanks
I thought so too but have experienced same lot numbers performing differently from each other and this is from the better 2010 lot.
Just saying we can really make them shoot but if you can put 5-8 pellets in 20 oz bottle every shot your turkey will not pass that test of death. It was just a suggestion for some to try. I think many are just looking to pick it apart when its just a suggestion for others. Next time you shoot put a bottle up at your big target and you might be surprised what pellet counts you get. I truly think its a good density material and size target to check. Many people will find some pellets from some shells wont make it out of the bottle others will blow right through. It use be if you busted a glass bottle it showed good energy. Only shoot few hundred rounds from time to time so I hope learn about poa poi in time.
i have shot many boxes of hevi-13, I would like to see more info. on the difference of lot numbers in penetrating ,and speed of the shot and wads? For the price of the shells they should be the same. Any help would be thankful
Quote from: JohnDoe on February 23, 2012, 10:53:17 PM
Which is worse? Punch you in the arm with 50lbs of force or stick you with an Ice Pick with 10lbs of force?
Interesting thought for sure.
Spuriosity this good info but wonder if anyone has checked the volocity on the ammo that have been claimed not have penatrated well on target or game . if volocity can be higher than advertised then they could be lower than advertised . If the shot size is all over the place wads are different maybe powder is to . inconsistency lot to lot or box to box .