Got a call from my son Joey the other day. He was working at a house and went into their back yard and the owners forgot to put their dog up. The dog cornered him and he tried to jump the fence to get away. The dog grabbed his leg and pulled him back inside the yard. He kicked the dog in the head and then jumped the fence. Needless to say he has huge puncture wounds in his calf from the bite. I saw it tonight for the first time and it looks bad. Is it wrong for me to want to go teach the dog a lesson. He said he hadn't put on his tool pouches yet so he didn't have his hammer available. The bad part was the owners didn't even ask him how he was she just said " Nobody messes with my dog" That comment got my wife foaming at the mouth and ready to hurt somebody. The question is should he take action against the dog owner or the owner of the property?
TRKYHTR
PS-I still want to teach that dog a lesson. Catdasddy I might need your help.
Put a lawsuit on them I would
YES!!! I was attacked when I was a kid. The dog bit me 3times. I had bout 20 stitches in my hands side and backside(very hard to sit for awhile). Came to find out I was the 4th person this dog bit. If u don't take care of it it will bite again and it could be a small child. Just last week here in PA a little kid was attacked and killed by a husky. Remember once a mean dog always a mean dog. If ur wandering no I don't dislike dogs I have 3.
Roy
YES...I would.
I definitely would, the arrogance of the owner would have sealed it for me.
Sorry to hear about Joey!!!
I hope Joey heals up quick. Too bad he didnt have his hammer!
Sorry to hear this Joe.
I would defenitely be discussing options with the owner(s) of the dog. If satisfaction couldn't be reached, I would let legal matters ensue. Please be careful..and use caution in how you proceed.
Gman
First thing, sorry for Joey. I was attacked and mauled by a German Shepard as a kid so I know what he is going through. I know that he will heal quickly.
Second, don't take your anger over this situation out on the dog. He did what his owners wanted him to do and that was to defend his owners from what he perceived as a threat in his own yard.
Third, Call your lawyer, tell him about it, and ask him to advise you as to what you will need to do. Remain calm and with your emotions in full control.
Fourth, If no satisfaction is forthcoming from the dog/house owners, lawyer up and pursue.
Quote from: FullChoke on February 22, 2012, 07:42:48 AMI was attacked and mauled by a German Shepard as a kid so I know what he is going through. I know that he will heal quickly.
Same here, I have a big scar on my leg
I'd make sure that dog was put down.
I love our lab and our friends' dogs but that is unacceptable.
First, make sure he is watching it closely for infection. Redness, swelling, pain, or any drainage. The last time there was a rabies transmission from a dog to a human was in the 70s, so he doesn't have to worry about that. He needs to make sure his tetanus is current, so he had a booster in the past 5 years.
Now, I believe that the dog should be put down. He was in their home at their request and they should have put the dog up, not just leave it loose in the back yard. If she is not willing to accept responsibility and pay for his medical care, then he should pursue legal means.
Cooler heads do prevail, but you have to still act now, as time goes by, there is less that will be done.
Quote from: JohnDoe on February 22, 2012, 08:00:44 AM
He needs to report it to the authorities. The dog needs to be quarantined and investigated. He needs medical attention also. The dog owners should pay for the medical attention and other expenses incurred. Dog bites are very serious.
John
X2 For all we know this may not be the first time for this. While rabies isn't very likely, you have to consider that as well as just infection from a puncture wound....and don't forget a tetanus shot.
i have to agree with fullchoke
I'm sorry to hear that. I have been involved with similar situations and it is easy to lose your cool. I know you and Joey will handle it like gentlemen. If they do not accept responsibility for expenses at a minimum, a lawyer may be warranted.
Fullchoke said it well.
Because the dog bite happened on the owners property I don't believe the dog can be put down, unless the owners agreed to it. Sounds like there are fines that could come from this. The owners should be paying any hospital bills. They knew what their dog was taught to do. It was their responsibility to contain their dog while having someone working on their property.
I have to agree with Full Choke too. The dog was doing what dog's do. You need to teach the owner a lesson. She obviously knows that her dog is aggressive by her comment "no one messes with my dog", A clear admission of guilt. Dog owners have a responsibility to keep the public, and this includes a workman such as your son , safe from an aggressive dog. Unfortunately, your families anger over the situation will only get you into trouble. Contact your attorney.
Report to authorities if for nothing more than to get it on record. Then if it gets bad or if you decide to for whatever reason you have it on record that you were bit by that dog.
Nothing a herseys chocolate bar wont take care of.
Quote from: sugarray on February 22, 2012, 08:36:31 AM
First, make sure he is watching it closely for infection. Redness, swelling, pain, or any drainage. The last time there was a rabies transmission from a dog to a human was in the 70s, so he doesn't have to worry about that. He needs to make sure his tetanus is current, so he had a booster in the past 5 years.
Now, I believe that the dog should be put down. He was in their home at their request and they should have put the dog up, not just leave it loose in the back yard. If she is not willing to accept responsibility and pay for his medical care, then he should pursue legal means.
Cooler heads do prevail, but you have to still act now, as time goes by, there is less that will be done.
Sugarray gave you some excellent info here.....I would do the same as he has suggested! Hope your son gets better soon!
God Bless
Quote from: VA_Birdhunter on February 22, 2012, 11:56:50 AM
Quote from: sugarray on February 22, 2012, 08:36:31 AM
First, make sure he is watching it closely for infection. Redness, swelling, pain, or any drainage. The last time there was a rabies transmission from a dog to a human was in the 70s, so he doesn't have to worry about that. He needs to make sure his tetanus is current, so he had a booster in the past 5 years.
Now, I believe that the dog should be put down. He was in their home at their request and they should have put the dog up, not just leave it loose in the back yard. If she is not willing to accept responsibility and pay for his medical care, then he should pursue legal means.
Cooler heads do prevail, but you have to still act now, as time goes by, there is less that will be done.
Sugarray gave you some excellent info here.....I would do the same as he has suggested! Hope your son gets better soon!
God Bless
Agreed 100%!!! If it happens once, it will likely happen again.
My .02. Take pictures every day to document the wound and go talk to an attorney. If you don't already know one you can go to then call around. Some wont charge you to just come in and talk. The fact that he was on the job when it happened really puts the icing on the cake. Oh, and I guarantee that this dog has bit someone before.
Quote from: mdtkyhntr on February 22, 2012, 06:28:29 AM
I definitely would, the arrogance of the owner would have sealed it for me.
:agreed:
Quote from: turkey slayer on February 22, 2012, 03:22:20 PM
Quote from: mdtkyhntr on February 22, 2012, 06:28:29 AM
I definitely would, the arrogance of the owner would have sealed it for me.
:agreed:
I have to feel the same way as these
Quote from: FullChoke on February 22, 2012, 07:42:48 AM
Second, don't take your anger over this situation out on the dog. He did what his owners wanted him to do and that was to defend his owners from what he perceived as a threat in his own yard.
Third, Call your lawyer, tell him about it, and ask him to advise you as to what you will need to do. Remain calm and with your emotions in full control.
Fourth, If no satisfaction is forthcoming from the dog/house owners, lawyer up and pursue.
Exactly
This was the Owners fault not the dog.
Sorry to hear that, you definately need to take legal action. I won't have a dog that bites. If one of my dogs even snaps at somebody that's the end of that.
I agree that the dog could bite a child next, and for that reason I would call my Lawyer, as well as the arogance of the owner.
Being a Veterinarian i am involved alot in bite wounds.
1. Go to the Doctor. Get Tetanus Shot and lilkey Antibiotics. I have seen many cases of severe infection due to untreated bite wounds. Ask the Doctor to file the report and the authorities should have to make sure the dog is quarantined properly
MS state law requires a mandatory 10 days quarnatine period at the local veterinary clinic or Animal Shelter.
2 Once the authorities are involved, you can easily file the report.
3. Write down everything you and the owner talked about and exactyl how it all went down. Times, Date, exactly what was said, ect.... This will go along way if you decide to go to court.
4. The dog is obviously dangerous and someone's child could be next.
Good Luck and go to the Doctor!!!
I may have missed it what kind of dog was it
id make sure that dog dies in some way, shape or form. just how i feel about it. i love dogs, but not dogs like that. :fud: :fud:
Just a little update and clarification on this subject. The dog was a mastiff mix and was ~ 130#. Joey was sent to the emergency room because he couldn't walk. The doctors filed a report about the dog bite. Joey asked me yesterday what he should do. I told him I couldn't give him good advice because I was too close to the situation and wanted to just put a bullet in the dogs ear. I told him to contact our Pastor and ask him about what he should do. Our Pastor told him to file a report and seek an Attorney. BTW the wounds, front and back, are bigger around than my thumb and about 1-1 1/2"" deep. Where the canines got him. I still want to give him a hearing aide filled with lead.
TRKYHTR
I'd kill that dog and do the world a favor.
Sorry to hear about Joey. Hope it works out okay.
Sorry to read Joe.
As written earlier, the dog was only doing what he was supposed to do. The owners are the ones needing to be dealt with for this matter. They are responsible for all cost, particularly if they hired your son to do work there.
Document document, and take pictures.
God Bless,
David B.
Quote from: BOFF on February 22, 2012, 09:47:46 PM
Sorry to read Joe.
As written earlier, the dog was only doing what he was supposed to do. The owners are the ones needing to be dealt with for this matter. They are responsible for all cost, particularly if they hired your son to do work there.
Document document, and take pictures.
God Bless,
David B.
Agreed.
Quote from: FullChoke on February 22, 2012, 07:42:48 AM
First thing, sorry for Joey. I was attacked and mauled by a German Shepard as a kid so I know what he is going through. I know that he will heal quickly.
Second, don't take your anger over this situation out on the dog. He did what his owners wanted him to do and that was to defend his owners from what he perceived as a threat in his own yard.
Third, Call your lawyer, tell him about it, and ask him to advise you as to what you will need to do. Remain calm and with your emotions in full control.
Fourth, If no satisfaction is forthcoming from the dog/house owners, lawyer up and pursue.
:icon_thumright:
Quote from: FullChoke on February 22, 2012, 07:42:48 AM
First thing, sorry for Joey.
Second, don't take your anger over this situation out on the dog.
Third, Call your lawyer, tell him about it, and ask him to advise you as to what you will need to do. Remain calm and with your emotions in full control.
Fourth, If no satisfaction is forthcoming from the dog/house owners, lawyer up and pursue.
Excellent advice there. :icon_thumright: :agreed:
I have a mastiff. Hes almost 2 and around 150. They are not the kind of dog that should be raised to do this. Extremely powerful.
Yep, time to lawyer up and teach the owner a lesson. The poor dog has more sense than the owners.
Quote from: FullChoke on February 22, 2012, 07:42:48 AM
First thing, sorry for Joey. I was attacked and mauled by a German Shepard as a kid so I know what he is going through. I know that he will heal quickly.
Second, don't take your anger over this situation out on the dog. He did what his owners wanted him to do and that was to defend his owners from what he perceived as a threat in his own yard.
Third, Call your lawyer, tell him about it, and ask him to advise you as to what you will need to do. Remain calm and with your emotions in full control.
Fourth, If no satisfaction is forthcoming from the dog/house owners, lawyer up and pursue.
100% agree :icon_thumright:
Quote from: FullChoke on February 22, 2012, 07:42:48 AM
First thing, sorry for Joey. I was attacked and mauled by a German Shepard as a kid so I know what he is going through. I know that he will heal quickly.
Second, don't take your anger over this situation out on the dog. He did what his owners wanted him to do and that was to defend his owners from what he perceived as a threat in his own yard.
Third, Call your lawyer, tell him about it, and ask him to advise you as to what you will need to do. Remain calm and with your emotions in full control.
Fourth, If no satisfaction is forthcoming from the dog/house owners, lawyer up and pursue.
First of all, Joe, I'm sorry this happened. Secondly, remember it could have been worse, much worse, with a dog that size. I've only been around one Mastiff in my life, huge dog, and as gentle as a lamb. Many dogs are terrritorial, and I've no doubt the dog perceived your nephew as being a threat. That said, the owners should take responsitibility.
Now, a couple of things that haven't been previously addressed, from the posts I read. First of all, was your nephew working independently, or for a contractor? If he was employed, it is likely workman's compensation would cover his medical expenses and time lost from work.
Also, no one has mentioned homeowner's insurance. All homeowner's insurance policies include liability, normally a pretty high limit, because it isn't common for someone to actually be injured at someone's house. I'm guessing, but don't know for sure, that, if workman's comp was filed, they would go after the property owner's insurance for reimbursement. Workman's comp is nothing but another insurance company, and any insurance company is going to try to find anyone other than themselves to pay the bill.
I'm also guessing, that, in the event workman's comp is filed, that might limit the amount he could possibly get in any other settlement. My advice would be to contact an attorney for advice. I, personally, am not a lawsuit happy person, and if something similar happened to me when I'm conducting my mowing business, as long as all my expenses were covered, and I healed up OK, I'd be happy. I don't agree with the mentality common these days that everyone thinks they should "punish" people through the use of lawsuits. However, my attitude would be a direct reflection of the property owner's attitude. If they were concerned, and followed through by seeing that everything was covered by their insurance, and obviously were sorry the incident took place, great. If not, well.........
Also, being in the medical field yourself, I know you are very much aware that he shouldn't be in too big a hurry to simply shrug this off. Hopefully, he'll mend quickly, with no further complications, but, there is no guarantee of that. Neill
Excellent info by Neill right there...
I was in a similar situation many years ago...my Vizsla was out in the back yard, on his lead when a woman came walking up the side walk. My dog would bark at everybody..more as a greeting than anything as if you got close to him..he might lick you to death. Well this woman was walking home from the grocerie store by my house ( can't figure that out as she lives nowhere near me)..and she then became scared when Brutus barked at her. She swong her bag of goods at the dog and he pulled the stake out of the ground and ended up biting her on the calf. I watched the entire thing from the window. Now, not to speak bad about her but she is a little intellectually challenged, she had the thought process of a 10 year old. Not sure what her actuall diagnosis is but she does have a diagnosis. Anyway, she went to the local hospital, she was seen, cared for and given antibiotics. Police showed up and wanted info on my dog. I gave them what they needed and some time went by. A week later I found out that she was not taking care of the wound and showed up in the ER at Iowa City with a very bad leg infection. She was admitted for 11 days for IV antibiotics. She then filed suit in the local court. My homeowners insurance didn't even fight the suit, though I told them what exactly happened. Didn't matter..she got an $80,000.00 check for pain and suffering, med bills etc.etc.. My insurance co then dropped me in about a month after that was all paid. My dog was fine but I was concerned that he might have gotten what she had as he was never the same after that....he ended up with a sudden death about two years later from lymphoma
It didn't matter that she PROVOKED the dog or that the dog was on his OWN property...a dog bite is a dig bite...and I paid to the hilt for that one..
I was bit at work about 5 years ago and because I was working out of town I did not know what to do.
I went to the local police and they did not do much, All I wanted was a current rabies vaccanation paper, I finally called the State of North Dakota(where I was at the time) and the State got involved, rabies vaccanation sheet was in my hands the next day and the dog was quarantined for 14 days by state order.
get a lawyer and sue them for all expenses