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Title: All Tungsten Shot is going Up and Why
Post by: allaboutshooting on February 20, 2012, 09:08:41 PM
I have frankly hesitated just a bit to write this but current conditions seem to make it necessary.

Some of you may be aware that the price of raw tungsten has just about doubled in the last 30 days. That has already had an effect and will have an even more profound effect on the price and availability of shotshells that many of us shoot.

At least one shotshell manufacturer has eliminated one shotshell that they had planned to introduce and produce for 2012. Don't look for those 20 gauge Winchester Xtended Range Hi-Density #6 shot shells that are featured in their 2012 catalog, they won't be produced.

We have already seen prices rise at both the wholesale and retail level and quite possibly, we "ain't seen nothing yet" as far as that goes.

I think it is necessary that we understand the situation and that the shotshell manufacturers have very little to with these price increases. Some may choose to forgo production, as at least one already has, and we may not be able to find the shells we want or need.

I suspect that some shotshell manufacturers have held the line on their prices, despite several price increases for their components. They can only do that for so long and I suspect that with the recent increases, it's no longer possible.

We will probably also see some retailers or wholesalers mark up their existing stock. That seems to happen at times. If they have seen new price sheets, they know what's coming with their next order.

This is not good news for us but is a reality of life, just like the almost $4.00 per gallon that I paid for regular unleaded gasoline just a few hours ago.

Thanks,
Clark
Title: Re: The Price of Tungsten
Post by: Philippe on February 20, 2012, 09:14:39 PM
I knew about it because of my investments in metals :drool:, but then again, i watched my favorite GS literally retag every box of hevi-13 brand shells in the store today. Back to lead shells i go!
Title: Re: All Tungsten Shot is going Up and Why
Post by: CASH on February 21, 2012, 05:47:10 AM
I understand it as the ammo suppliers can't do anything about what the market does.  What ticks me off though, is when they mark up the prices on existing stock.  We know the new prices weren't paid for what's already on the shelf.

Of course I don't own a business, so I also know nothing about that end either.
Title: Re: All Tungsten Shot is going Up and Why
Post by: Tom Foolery on February 21, 2012, 07:48:40 AM
Quote from: CASH on February 21, 2012, 05:47:10 AM
I understand it as the ammo suppliers can't do anything about what the market does.  What ticks me off though, is when they mark up the prices on existing stock.  We know the new prices weren't paid for what's already on the shelf.

Of course I don't own a business, so I also know nothing about that end either.



Our little gun store does that all the time.  They lost some buisness because people would come in and there would be 3 or 4 stickers on top of one another.  I saw a box of 30-30 ammo and peeled off the stickers, $13.99, $16.99, $18.99, $23.99.  So they had marked up a box $10 while it sat on the shelf.  Now they make sure the old stickers are pulled off first.
Title: Re: All Tungsten Shot is going Up and Why
Post by: Spring Creek Calls on February 21, 2012, 07:56:51 AM
Thanks for the info Clark. I was looking forward to trying the 20 ga. Win HD 6's.

:smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an
Title: Re: All Tungsten Shot is going Up and Why
Post by: Ranman on February 21, 2012, 11:32:28 AM
Man that sucks. Good thing I have some stocked away.
Title: Re: All Tungsten Shot is going Up and Why
Post by: stinkpickle on February 21, 2012, 11:44:48 AM
Quote from: CASH on February 21, 2012, 05:47:10 AM
I understand it as the ammo suppliers can't do anything about what the market does.  What ticks me off though, is when they mark up the prices on existing stock.  We know the new prices weren't paid for what's already on the shelf.

Of course I don't own a business, so I also know nothing about that end either.


Just like gas...it's worth as much as it'll cost to replace.
Title: Re: All Tungsten Shot is going Up and Why
Post by: BrowningGuy88 on February 21, 2012, 11:51:47 AM
I have enough stocked away now for at least 10 years of limits for the 20 gauge. I have enough for about 6 years limits with the 12, so I think I am good.
Title: Re: All Tungsten Shot is going Up and Why
Post by: CASH on February 21, 2012, 11:57:10 AM
Quote from: stinkpickle on February 21, 2012, 11:44:48 AM
Quote from: CASH on February 21, 2012, 05:47:10 AM
I understand it as the ammo suppliers can't do anything about what the market does.  What ticks me off though, is when they mark up the prices on existing stock.  We know the new prices weren't paid for what's already on the shelf.

Of course I don't own a business, so I also know nothing about that end either.


Just like gas...it's worth as much as it'll cost to replace.

This is true.
Title: Re: All Tungsten Shot is going Up and Why
Post by: allaboutshooting on February 21, 2012, 12:16:50 PM
It looks like a good time to stock up on shotshells, especially if there's an "old price" source available but even if there's not, I don't see any price relief in the near future.

The increased price may also really limit the sources. I suspect that some retailers will feel that their customers just won't pay the price or they frankly may not be able of afford the cost of stocking a variety of those products.

A good time to buy may be now.

Thanks,
Clark
Title: Re: All Tungsten Shot is going Up and Why
Post by: TauntoHawk on February 21, 2012, 01:56:58 PM
currently have of Hevi shot at $3.60 per shell

30 shells: 3-2-6
2 shells: 3-2-MB
1 shell: 3-2-7

Guess i better hope my hands stay steady under pressure and thats enough to check patterns and tag out for the next few seasons

price goes any higher Ill be storing it in the safe and leaving cash in a card board box  :begging:
Title: Re: All Tungsten Shot is going Up and Why
Post by: BrowningGuy88 on February 21, 2012, 02:00:43 PM
Quote from: TauntoHawk on February 21, 2012, 01:56:58 PM
currently have of Hevi shot at $3.60 per shell

30 shells: 3-2-6
2 shells: 3-2-MB
1 shell: 3-2-7

Guess i better hope my hands stay steady under pressure and thats enough to check patterns and tag out for the next few seasons

price goes any higher Ill be storing it in the safe and leaving cash in a card board box  :begging:

My wife said I should not shoot mine and then sell it next year at three times what I paid for it and buy a new gun. Unfortunately I would have to buy more at the new prices!



Title: Re: All Tungsten Shot is going Up and Why
Post by: stinkpickle on February 21, 2012, 02:12:31 PM
Quote from: Daman on February 21, 2012, 02:00:43 PM
Quote from: TauntoHawk on February 21, 2012, 01:56:58 PM
currently have of Hevi shot at $3.60 per shell

30 shells: 3-2-6
2 shells: 3-2-MB
1 shell: 3-2-7

Guess i better hope my hands stay steady under pressure and thats enough to check patterns and tag out for the next few seasons

price goes any higher Ill be storing it in the safe and leaving cash in a card board box  :begging:

My wife said I should not shoot mine and then sell it next year at three times what I paid for it and buy a new gun. Unfortunately I would have to buy more at the new prices!





Buy a nice bow with the money and start flinging arrows at them instead.   :D
Title: Re: All Tungsten Shot is going Up and Why
Post by: Devastator on February 21, 2012, 05:02:19 PM
glad i stocked up on fed hw 7's for the 10 and 20.got 7 box's of 10 and 6 1/2 box's of 20 sitting here.by the time i use all them up i will have at least 1 for myself lolol.
Title: Re: All Tungsten Shot is going Up and Why
Post by: chatterbox on February 21, 2012, 05:08:29 PM
I have 9.5 boxes of Hevi-13 3.5-2.25-6's (48 shells)
Those 4 boxes of Hevi-13 I aquired with an accidental shipment are gonna come in handy I think!
Title: Re: All Tungsten Shot is going Up and Why
Post by: allaboutshooting on February 21, 2012, 05:29:50 PM
Congratulations to everyone who's well supplied. For others, I think you may be able to find some still on dealer shelves at "old" prices. I was in a gun store today and saw 3" shells for $19.95. They were unaware of the price increases for new stock. I'm sure there are other stores out there like that.

Thanks,
Clark