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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Guns => Topic started by: schuylkillspur on February 20, 2012, 10:27:17 AM

Title: 410 turkey gun
Post by: schuylkillspur on February 20, 2012, 10:27:17 AM
Just picked up a New Remington 870 sportsman in .410 to finish my Gauge slam, Any Idea on Ammo anybody sell custom ammo etc etc.
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: saveallj on February 20, 2012, 11:08:14 AM
We can't turkey hunt with a 410 in Arkansas.  They have to be a 20 gauge or larger.
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: pdqt on February 20, 2012, 11:35:13 AM
If you reload, you need to contact . 
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: gersus on February 20, 2012, 11:39:07 AM
I think it would be awesome to kill a bird with a 410! Would definitely be an accomplishment.
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: Deputy 14 on February 20, 2012, 01:52:33 PM
Yea I would def contact  and go the TSS route. Unless you keep your shots within 13 yards. Sounds like fun though. Kinda like throwing a #22 dry fly for a 4 pound brown trout. Good luck  :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: SWAMPFOX on February 20, 2012, 09:56:49 PM
Check out a book written by Kenny Morgan called=one man game. This gentleman and great call maker has dropped the hammer on many a gobbler with the.410.
Swampfox
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: gobbler777 on February 20, 2012, 10:45:45 PM
I had the pleasure of shooting a nice Rio longbeard down in Texas with a Thompson Center Contender .410 guage handgun. I patterened a number of shells and did not feel comfortable with a shot over 15 yards. Called the old boy into 12 yards and put him down ... what a rush.
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: K9Doc on February 20, 2012, 10:59:36 PM
Hevi-Shot makes a load for Duck Hunting called "Hevi-Duck"  It is Hevi-shot at 12g/cc   .410   3"  7/16 oz.  #7s at 1250 fps.
Natchez Shooter Supply has then on sale now for $17.99
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: Hunt4Meat on February 21, 2012, 09:44:45 AM
Quote from: saveallj on February 20, 2012, 11:08:14 AM
We can't turkey hunt with a 410 in Arkansas.  They have to be a 20 gauge or larger.

All I could fing in the AGFC site was 10 gauge or smaller, and nothing larger than #2, but sounds like a good rule here in AR.
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: Ranman on February 21, 2012, 11:27:59 AM
Keep us posted on your results. I think that would be a rush to bag ol Tom with a .410.
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: schuylkillspur on February 21, 2012, 05:21:17 PM
Thanks everyone for the info. I'll keep the OG board up to date with patterns and Harvest info. Thanks again and God Bless.
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: Hooks' n' Beards' on February 25, 2012, 05:36:17 PM
I Would not go under a 20 gA WHETHER ITS LEGAL OR NOT.
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: BrownTrout on February 26, 2012, 07:50:54 AM
Quote from: Deputy 14 on February 20, 2012, 01:52:33 PM
Kinda like throwing a #22 dry fly for a 4 pound brown trout. Good luck  :icon_thumright:

Nice.........another crazy fella like myself.    :agreed::icon_thumright: :help:

Tight lines brother.
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: R AJ on February 26, 2012, 08:41:35 AM
There is nothing wrong about using the .410 gauge . A fellow who has now passed away carried a .410 pump with  lead shot and when he called one
within range it always looked just as dead  in the back of the truck as any other.
One thing though. He enjoyed the show and frequently called in birds that did not strut or gobble so they did not get shot. Lots of them never got close enough to shoot no matter how much gobbling or strutting they did.
One does severely limit his distance and needs extra restraint when using this shell.
If CHALLENGE is your middle name I applaud you for this shall be one.
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: schuylkillspur on February 26, 2012, 12:38:49 PM
I would like to thank everyone for there replies and Comments, I totally agree with RAJ. The challange of the Gauge slam is to take a wild Turkey with all the major gauges which requires you to get closer to your quary as the gauges get smaller.
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: bird on February 26, 2012, 12:44:20 PM
Quote from: RAJ on February 26, 2012, 08:41:35 AM
There is nothing wrong about using the .410 gauge . A fellow who has now passed away carried a .410 pump with  lead shot and when he called one
within range it always looked just as dead  in the back of the truck as any other.
One thing though. He enjoyed the show and frequently called in birds that did not strut or gobble so they did not get shot. Lots of them never got close enough to shoot no matter how much gobbling or strutting they did.
One does severely limit his distance and needs extra restraint when using this shell.
If CHALLENGE is your middle name I applaud you for this shall be one.

X2
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: Michigander on February 26, 2012, 07:09:51 PM
I used some Winchester 3'' 7 1/2's out of an old 410 that had a polychoke on it. It threw a pattern to about 25 yards, if I remember correctly (been a couple years). I ended up only having to shoot about 13 though. Kinda funny to hear that little pop, instead of BOOM!!!

Good luck!
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: Neill_Prater on February 27, 2012, 01:01:01 AM
I'm thinking smaller shot, even in lead, to increase pattern density, because the shot is going to be at less distance anyway. The only reason any of us used larger lead shot back in the day was to increase the effective killing range. If you are going to stay under 25 yards, I would guess 7 1/2 lead would do quite well, given a tight enough pattern for multiple hits.
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: schuylkillspur on February 27, 2012, 07:44:09 AM
I have killed birds before with 7 1/2 lead shot, I don't know how many people remember the old Federal 3" 2oz 7.5 loads I downed a few birds with them when they were avaliable, and contrary to what some ammo Manfacturers claim it can be done @ 35+ yds, I killed this KS Rio @ app 35yds with a 16ga 1 1/8 load of 7.5.
(http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss115/earljeff/KansasTurkeyHuntapril09014.jpg)
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: 224tth on February 27, 2012, 09:29:11 AM
I patterned my 500 mossberg 410 couple of years ago.  I used 3" remington Express long range 7.5.  It went anywhere from upper 60 to lower 70's in the 10" circle at 25 yards.  I tried #6 shot first shot and it was VERY plain that that would NEVER work density wise.

thanks
224TTH
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: WildTigerTrout on February 27, 2012, 09:54:15 AM
Quote from: BrownTrout on February 26, 2012, 07:50:54 AM
Quote from: Deputy 14 on February 20, 2012, 01:52:33 PM
Kinda like throwing a #22 dry fly for a 4 pound brown trout. Good luck  :icon_thumright:

Nice.........another crazy fella like myself.    :agreed::icon_thumright: :help:

Tight lines brother.
Better yet a size 24 Trico!  :lol:
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: BrownTrout on February 27, 2012, 01:18:04 PM
Man, Fallen Springs gets one heck of a Trico hatch  At least it used to, I haven't been down there in years.  Last time I was there everything was posted.
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: reflexl on February 27, 2012, 06:22:20 PM
Sounds like an interesting quest. I killed my first 28 gauge bird last year at 29 yards. I don't see why you couldn't kill old tom if you could get him close. reflexl
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: Longshanks on February 28, 2012, 08:21:07 AM
Quote from: schuylkillspur on February 26, 2012, 12:38:49 PM
I would like to thank everyone for there replies and Comments, I totally agree with RAJ. The challange of the Gauge slam is to take a wild Turkey with all the major gauges which requires you to get closer to your quary as the gauges get smaller.

Good luck.  Ive seen allot of turkeys killed with archery equipment but shooting them with a .410 seems like a bad idea. I guess if you are bored with turkey hunting and just trying to make it more difficult..that will do it. Spending money and time on a short range shotgun is not something i would be interested in .  Ive never reached the point in turkey hunting where is said "this doesnt seem to be much of a challenge"   :anim_25:
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: schuylkillspur on February 28, 2012, 10:14:01 AM
Longshanks I'm not bored with Turkey hunting I still like to Hunt Turkeys more than anything else, I also like to hunt with a longbow and a flintlock I guess I'm into challenges and after 140 bird I would like to try to harvest them in different ways, I'm also taking my longbow to Kansas this year and if I can fill my tag with that maybe a flintlock shotgun next? Bored NO!
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: Longshanks on February 28, 2012, 12:55:25 PM
Looking for a less lethal way to kill them just increases your chance of losing them. Ive killed about the same numbers and I still choose the most efficient lethal way of harvesting turkeys. I like to let turkeys get really close.. if they will... before i shoot them but decreasing the lethality of the weapon to a .410 doesnt make much sense unless it is a child or woman hunting that needs a smaller gun and even with them 20guage is about as light as i will go. Looking for titles, accolades, and "slams" is just about ego..not my thing. Ive killed several whitetails in the P&Y to B&C score range but im not running to the scorebooks and record clubs everytime i kill one.  Not why i hunt..To each his own..:anim_25:
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: schuylkillspur on February 28, 2012, 03:55:14 PM
Longshanks I admire your dedication to the animals you hunt. I do the best I can when I hunt not to loose or wound a animal, but inevitably if you hunt long enough it will happen no matter what type of weapon you use. Ego NO, if it were about numbers I would just bait - poach, set traps etc etc. Like you said to each his own. Happy hunting.
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: jakesdad on February 28, 2012, 04:55:48 PM
I have considered buying a .410 for my oldest to use this fall/next spring(wont be old enough this spring)I have thought about shooting 3" hevi shot in #7.5 out of it.MacksPW has them for sale I believe.I would like to kill a bird with a .410 myself,just for the added challenge.I dont think using a .410 is "less lethal" if used within it limitations.If I can get a bird to 20yds or so with the 2 of us in a pop up,I see no reason for the .410 not to be used.plus I can get some pretty light loads he can use to practice with.
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: Longshanks on February 28, 2012, 05:09:21 PM
Quote from: schuylkillspur on February 28, 2012, 03:55:14 PM
Longshanks I admire your dedication to the animals you hunt. I do the best I can when I hunt not to loose or wound a animal, but inevitably if you hunt long enough it will happen no matter what type of weapon you use. Ego NO, if it were about numbers I would just bait - poach, set traps etc etc. Like you said to each his own. Happy hunting.

Good luck to you this season! It's almost here, been listening to several gobblers the last couple of mornings. May the beards be long and the spurs be sharp for you this year. :boon:
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: Longshanks on February 28, 2012, 05:24:56 PM
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I have considered buying a .410 for my oldest to use this fall/next spring(wont be old enough this spring)I have thought about shooting 3" hevi shot in #7.5 out of it.MacksPW has them for sale I believe.I would like to kill a bird with a .410 myself,just for the added challenge.I dont think using a .410 is "less lethal" if used within it limitations.If I can get a bird to 20yds or so with the 2 of us in a pop up,I see no reason for the .410 not to be used.plus I can get some pretty light loads he can use to practice with.
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Post up some pics this spring..love to see them. :fud:
Title: Re: 410 turkey gun
Post by: schuylkillspur on February 28, 2012, 07:02:43 PM
 :OGani:
Amen