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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Guns => Topic started by: Grant Flaming on February 11, 2012, 08:17:31 PM

Title: Does temperature affect patterns?
Post by: Grant Flaming on February 11, 2012, 08:17:31 PM
Will the temperature affect how your gun patterns? Will it pattern tighter when it is warmer outside?
Title: Re: Does temperature affect patterns?
Post by: tyelper on February 11, 2012, 08:20:22 PM
YES AND YES
Title: Re: Does temperature affect patterns?
Post by: bawana on February 11, 2012, 08:40:50 PM
How much of a difference will you see? Is there any rule of thumb for it?
Title: Re: Does temperature affect patterns?
Post by: chatterbox on February 11, 2012, 08:53:56 PM
I'm not sure of numbers, but patterns loose alot of density in cold, dry air, and increase that density in warm, moist air.
I'm not sure of the physics and ballistics, but I believe that more dense air "holds" the pattern together better.
Title: Re: Does temperature affect patterns?
Post by: reynolds243 on February 11, 2012, 08:58:56 PM
No different then hitting a golf ball during the summer vs the winter. You will lose 20 yards easy on a drive in cold temps or hitting a baseball in the winter vs summer. Granted its not total apples to apples as the ball has a role in that scenario but you see what i mean.
Title: Re: Does temperature affect patterns?
Post by: chatterbox on February 11, 2012, 09:09:30 PM
Quote from: Spuriosity on February 11, 2012, 09:04:34 PM
Quote from: chatterbox on February 11, 2012, 08:53:56 PM
I'm not sure of numbers, but patterns loose alot of density in cold, dry air, and increase that density in warm, moist air.
I'm not sure of the physics and ballistics, but I believe that more dense air "holds" the pattern together better.
Your first statement is true; your second statement is not. The "more dense air" is the colder air, and it spreads the pattern apart. It does not "hold the pattern together better". There has been alot of discussion on this board about the effects of temp. on patterns. Perhaps a search will turn something up.
It would be interesting to see what warm dry air would do to patterns, which would lead to temp being as important as humidity. Say what a hunter that patterns his gun in Nevada, vs. a hunter that patterns in Alabama.
Just more food for thought.
Title: Re: Does temperature affect patterns?
Post by: SumToy on February 11, 2012, 09:33:33 PM
It will put lower numbers in the cold temps.  Now in cold air you find most is damp and thick.  So you need to go smaller on a choke in the cold temps to keep the gun shooting.  Now the bigger bore guns will be the ones that drop off the most.  The small bore dont have as big of a swing in patterns. 
Title: Re: Does temperature affect patterns?
Post by: reynolds243 on February 11, 2012, 09:44:36 PM
Quote from: SumToy on February 11, 2012, 09:33:33 PM
It will put lower numbers in the cold temps.  Now in cold air you find most is damp and thick.  So you need to go smaller on a choke in the cold temps to keep the gun shooting.  Now the bigger bore guns will be the ones that drop off the most.  The small bore dont have as big of a swing in patterns. 

well thats interesting, never thought about the bore diam making a difference.
Title: Re: Does temperature affect patterns?
Post by: Gobble! on February 12, 2012, 12:35:12 AM
Does a bear crap in the woods?
Temp plays a huge role.
Using Hevi 13 #6s
70 degrees 194 in a 10" circle at 40 yards
30 degrees 140 in a 10" circle at 40 yards
Title: Re: Does temperature affect patterns?
Post by: SumToy on February 12, 2012, 11:19:38 AM
I will give you a good one.  I have a BPS Trap I punch paper with.   It has a 680 choke and at 60 and up it blow a hole a 58 to 60 ft with a junk 23/4-11/8-9 fed shell.   50 to 60 it is a may be set up.  Below 50 you better off with a box of rocks and a sling shot. 
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Post by: ILIKEHEVI-13 on February 12, 2012, 12:03:42 PM
 I have seen a 44 degree day take a Star Dot choke on my 835 that's a hummer in say 60 to 70 degree temp and make it look just mediocre.