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setting up a new benelli nova 12 gauge 28'' barrel which choke would you choose,  shooting either remington duplex 4x6 or remington nitro magnums

Quote from: tyelper on February 05, 2012, 07:00:19 PM
setting up a new benelli nova 12 gauge 28'' barrel which choke would you choose,  shooting either remington duplex 4x6 or remington nitro magnums

I'd choose the SSX or the Hevi-13 turkey choke for that gun.

Thanks,
Clark

My buddy is shooting that same gun with .655 JH and Hevi13 Mag Blend, he gets around 220-230 in a 10 inch at 40yds

I ran a PG last year in my 1300 and was very pleased. Any of the choices above should be good.

I have a supernova with a JH and shoot Nitro triplex.  Deadly!

I run a .655 Jellyhead in my Nova and it will put up 275-295 with Hevi #7s and 330 with Nitro #7s

This doesn't answer your question but you may want to re-think your ammo choice.  I've shot both loads you mentioned and could not make a 40 yard gun out of either of those loads.  Try the heavier loads in 6 or 7s, or the mag blends.  Of course, you may get great results with those loads, but I have my doubts.  Either way, let us know what you get.  Good luck

What he said ^. 

well i went and looked at chokes tonight, picked each one up a dozen times but i ended up buying the jelly head in a 660 , now for the shells,,,,,,now as daman posted the nitro triplex are these remingtons or nitro company,,,,,

With my buddy's Nova we put a JH .655 in it with 3-2-6 Hevi-shot, we got a great 40 yard pattern. He never counted pellets, but the pattern, was very even and uniform.

I have a nova and a tight wad choke,I shoot federal flite controls in #5's. I will say I smashes birds. I only shot it once on a pattern board at 55 yards and got about 35 to 40 pellets which is not that great. Thats why When I shot my birds last year I had him at like 10 to 15 yards and he did a back flip.
Now I dont mean to hijack the post,but What do you guys think about the indian creek choke for this gun? I would like to switch to TTS loads and The tight wad cant handle the shot from what I hear.

 :drool:I don't think any of the above.  :toothy9:

Now all jokes aside  I have had folks with the Kick's in the 650 with Win Ex-Range come by they shoot good.

Then the IC with the HV-13 look good. 

Quote from: socalturkeyman on February 07, 2012, 01:58:45 AM
I have a nova and a tight wad choke,I shoot federal flite controls in #5's. I will say I smashes birds. I only shot it once on a pattern board at 55 yards and got about 35 to 40 pellets which is not that great. Thats why When I shot my birds last year I had him at like 10 to 15 yards and he did a back flip.
Now I dont mean to hijack the post,but What do you guys think about the indian creek choke for this gun? I would like to switch to TTS loads and The tight wad cant handle the shot from what I hear.

Socal,
I shoot an IC .675 choke, non-ported, no wad catchers with TSS 9s out of my 21' bbl 870.  Not sure how that will translate in the Nova, but I've found the more open choke, the better.  The factory extra full also put up similar numbers.  I'm getting 300+ in the 10" and 350+ in the 20"

The Nitro's mentioned here are from Nitro Ray. I ran them last year in Triplex 4x5x7 through the 1300 and will run his straight 7's this year. You will not touch Nitro Ray's loads anywhere unless you handload.

Same gun and i got the .655 JH gunna be shooting either straight 7s or magblends

well i thought about shooting the remington 4x6 duplex but seems nobody likes them,,,,,

Quote from: tyelper on February 07, 2012, 06:27:23 PM
well i thought about shooting the remington 4x6 duplex but seems nobody likes them,,,,,

... That's what this board is for, to help save others time and money.  The 4X6 duplex is possibly the worst patterning shell I've put through my gun.  I had bought them years back before anyone ever did much patterning.  When I patterned those loads (last year), I couldn't even keep the pattern on a 40"x40" sheet of paper. 

You will be MUCH better off with the HTL loads.

ok i must be dumb here whats htl,,,,,,,,,

Quote from: tyelper on February 07, 2012, 10:38:09 PM
ok i must be dumb here whats htl,,,,,,,,,

HTL  Heavier than Lead
HW  Heavy Weight
XR    Extended Range
Pb    Lead
PG    Pure Gold
JH    Jelly Head
GT   Gobbling Thunder
FC    Flight Control
POA   Point of Aim
POI  Point of Impact
IC     Indian Creek
TG     Tru Glo
SSX  Strut stopper Xtreme
300   300 in a 10 inch circle at 40yds
TSS    Tungsten Super Shot
TW   Tight Wad
Win  Winchester
HV    High Velocity
Fed   Federal
Sup   Supreme
PFC   Pre Flight Control
Bbl    Barrel

OG language..

thanks now i understand over 100 post a lot better,,,,,

Quote from: tyelper on February 07, 2012, 11:00:45 PM
thanks now i understand over 100 post a lot better,,,,,

:icon_thumright:  Yea, its like another language..when i first got on here it was like they were speaking in code and i missed orientation..

Have the same gun but with a 26" barrel. I tried both of those Rem Pb loads you mentioned, and they are probably not the choice if you're looking for patterns. As Honker22 also mentioned, the 4x6 duplex was absolutely horrible. I know people on here swear by Pb, and I'm not trying to start another Pb vs. HTL discussion, but for my gun, HTL out performed Pb through just about every choke I tried hands down. The best Pb shell for me was the Rem Nitro Mag 3.5" #6, and it gave me around 110 hits at 40yds.

As far as chokes go, you didn't mention the cheap, HS Strut Undertaker .655 (ported), but you should give it a look. It patterned better than any others in my Nova with the Pb and HTL loads I shot. Much better in my gun than the Jellyhead and half the price. May be another one you want to look at...

Good luck with it. That gun doesn't seem to pattern as well as many of the others on here, or at least it didn't for me and several people I've talked to.

after proof, i am a firm believer in every single gun shoots different.  buddy of mine and I bought novas the same day from the same dealer, everything identical.  mine shoots better with a PG, his shoots better with a JH.  we have swapped guns to see if we have a different style of holding the gun or anything that might be a little different, no change.  i cant explain it, i don't understand it, but it is true and thats all the proof i need

well not to start an arument, i have killed turkeys for years with an 870 and stock full choke and rem nitro's 3'' number 6's,, i joined this sight listened to treads and tried to improve my pattern bought shell after shell and choke after choke and a few different guns, so yesterday i bought 1 box of winchester super x 3'' number 6 and a box of remington nitro, number,6  put all my tight wad chokes and undertaker tubers back in 3 870 and an 11-87 and shot everyone at 40 yards consitantly put 50 hits tight in the center of 10'' so im still a firm beliver it dont take 300 hits in a 10 '' target to kill birds,,,,,,,,

Quote from: offshore on February 10, 2012, 04:05:52 PM
after proof, i am a firm believer in every single gun shoots different.  buddy of mine and I bought novas the same day from the same dealer, everything identical.  mine shoots better with a PG, his shoots better with a JH.  we have swapped guns to see if we have a different style of holding the gun or anything that might be a little different, no change.  i cant explain it, i don't understand it, but it is true and thats all the proof i need

:agreed: that's been my experience with most guns.

Quote from: tyelper on February 10, 2012, 05:46:00 PM
well not to start an arument, i have killed turkeys for years with an 870 and stock full choke and rem nitro's 3'' number 6's,, i joined this sight listened to treads and tried to improve my pattern bought shell after shell and choke after choke and a few different guns, so yesterday i bought 1 box of winchester super x 3'' number 6 and a box of remington nitro, number,6  put all my tight wad chokes and undertaker tubers back in 3 870 and an 11-87 and shot everyone at 40 yards consitantly put 50 hits tight in the center of 10'' so im still a firm beliver it dont take 300 hits in a 10 '' target to kill birds,,,,,,,,

Yea, but I think I would rather shoot 300 than 50..but that's just me..misjudge 40 and it turns out to be 45..you will watch some birds fly off with 50 in 10 @ 40

5 years 5 gobblers 5 shots

Quote from: tyelper on February 10, 2012, 06:41:20 PM
5 years 5 gobblers 5 shots

38 years of turkey hunting, 120+ gobblers, numerous states..and i can promise you if you shoot 50 in a 10in circle @ 40 you will watch turkeys fly off if you misjudge 40yds and it turns out to be 45-50.

WELL i throw the jelly head choke in the drawer and put the undertaker choke in it and shot remington nitro 3'' number 5 in it this afternoon at 40 yards and got 157 so im satisfied,,,,,,,

those are great numbers with 5s

Quote from: tyelper on February 10, 2012, 06:41:20 PM
5 years 5 gobblers 5 shots

Overwhelming amount of experience there.....  You should write a book

If you're going to disregard the advice given to you by those with more extensive knowledge and experience, what's the point of soliciting it in the first place?

Chock this one to experience: You will cripple one when you misjudge a 40 yard bird.  Furthermore, based on your pattern density and shell of choice, it sounds like 40 yards is at the outer limit of your effective range.

VaTuRkStOmPeR
if you read the first post i was looking for a choke to shoot the mentioned shells,  and i knew that at some point i would be suggested to shoot some kind of heavy blend shell, so as you say choke on advise there was never any of what i asked for,,,,,,5 years 5 dead birds 5 shots, i belive in the hunt its self the point is to get the quarry in as close as possible before being busted, if i cant get a bird in past 45 yards i guess he is a free man,,,,,,,im not perkeked up on paper shooters, not be negative but the thread was to see what choke shot well with these shells,,,again sorry for ruffled feathers,,,,,,