Does anyone else who shoots Hevi13 or a heavy load have a lead load as your first shot? I am gonna start this year loading a Winchester supreme HV as my first shot and hevi13 as my second 2 shots. I think if he's not within 40 yds, it'll take him at least 2 secs too long to react to me pumping my hevi13 load in... my HV's pattern awesome out to 40 yds, hevi out to 60yds.... comments?
;D LOL! I've done that before. I would keep a lead #7.5 in the chamber, and an XRHD round as a backup. If it looks like he's not going to cross the 40 yard mark, I would shuck the lead shell and send the HTL on its way. I never had to do that, though. :)
First question I have is why? Cost? How many shells are you really gonna shoot at turkeys this year and why wouldn't you want your best shell in the gun for the first shot?
Quote from: wmahunter on February 02, 2012, 12:02:31 PM
First question I have is why? Cost? How many shells are you really gonna shoot at turkeys this year and why wouldn't you want your best shell in the gun for the first shot?
Sometimes, the best shell at 40 yards and the best shell at 20 yards aren't the same shell. ;)
I always load my gun with Hevi 3.5-2.25-7s when I leave the truck but if I set up somewhere that I can only see about 40 yards or less I'll slip a Winchester XX 3-2-6 in the chamber but I probably wouldn't try to shuck a different shell in there with the turkey in sight. The cost difference for 1 shell just isn't that great.
Quote from: stinkpickle on February 02, 2012, 12:10:32 PM
Quote from: wmahunter on February 02, 2012, 12:02:31 PM
First question I have is why? Cost? How many shells are you really gonna shoot at turkeys this year and why wouldn't you want your best shell in the gun for the first shot?
Sometimes, the best shell at 40 yards and the best shell at 20 yards aren't the same shell. ;)
I'd rather take the time and aim better with my tight shooting shell at a close range turkey than try to get away with shucking a shell at a 40 yd bird or worse yet, shooting at him with the wrong shell and not getting a clean kill. How many of you have never shot at a "30yd" bird that later turned out to be 40?
Quote from: wmahunter on February 02, 2012, 12:21:30 PM
Quote from: stinkpickle on February 02, 2012, 12:10:32 PM
Quote from: wmahunter on February 02, 2012, 12:02:31 PM
First question I have is why? Cost? How many shells are you really gonna shoot at turkeys this year and why wouldn't you want your best shell in the gun for the first shot?
Sometimes, the best shell at 40 yards and the best shell at 20 yards aren't the same shell. ;)
I'd rather take the time and aim better with my tight shooting shell at a close range turkey than try to get away with shucking a shell at a 40 yd bird or worse yet, shooting at him with the wrong shell and not getting a clean kill. How many of you have never shot at a "30yd" bird that later turned out to be 40?
Where's your sense of adventure? :D
I have one I promise. I slipped up on a huge bedded huge mule deer once and shot him with an empty gun (click) and them again after I loaded it. :newmascot:
Do what you like but IMO, it's a bad idea. Don't forget to report back and let us know how it goes!
Quote from: stinkpickle on February 02, 2012, 12:10:32 PM
Quote from: wmahunter on February 02, 2012, 12:02:31 PM
First question I have is why? Cost? How many shells are you really gonna shoot at turkeys this year and why wouldn't you want your best shell in the gun for the first shot?
Sometimes, the best shell at 40 yards and the best shell at 20 yards aren't the same shell. ;)
Well this reason^^ My HV are way better at 30yds than my H13, which is like a softball....
But main reason is the 29.99 for 5 H13's compared to 9.99 for 10 HV's
To each his own, but the season is short and tags are few. I'm prob not gonna take that chance.
Quote from: Deputy 14 on February 02, 2012, 02:56:22 PM
To each his own, but the season is short and tags are few. I'm prob not gonna take that chance.
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Quote from: bawana on February 02, 2012, 03:10:11 PM
Quote from: Deputy 14 on February 02, 2012, 02:56:22 PM
To each his own, but the season is short and tags are few. I'm prob not gonna take that chance.
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Yep.
Quote from: bowhunter2k9 on February 02, 2012, 02:55:58 PM
But main reason is the 29.99 for 5 H13's compared to 9.99 for 10 HV's
Are you serious? The cost of the shell is the absolutely smallest part of my turkey hunt and probably yours too so I don't care if the shells cost $50 each, I'm still not going to skimp of them because of cost.
Unless you walk to where you are hunting your gas is a much higher expense than even the most expensive shells out there.
I'm probably gonna shoot less than 10 turkey shells this year anyway including patterning.
i honestly dont see the point, if you are going to shell out the money for the HV shot (which i shoot) why not put them to use. I could almost see you saying a LEAD as a back up because most 2nd shots are a hail marry anyways.
i understand your 40 shell may not be your 20 shell but just aim better and a tad lower and problem solved.
Planning to shoot twice or pump the gun is a bad plan..shooting at running or flying turkeys is not smart..:Better yet if your gonna do that you might as well fire a warning shot LOL. Please get all this on video. :bike2:
Quote from: bawana on February 02, 2012, 03:10:11 PM
Quote from: Deputy 14 on February 02, 2012, 02:56:22 PM
To each his own, but the season is short and tags are few. I'm prob not gonna take that chance.
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Quote from: wmahunter on February 02, 2012, 04:11:21 PM
Quote from: bowhunter2k9 on February 02, 2012, 02:55:58 PM
But main reason is the 29.99 for 5 H13's compared to 9.99 for 10 HV's
Are you serious? The cost of the shell is the absolutely smallest part of my turkey hunt and probably yours too so I don't care if the shells cost $50 each, I'm still not going to skimp of them because of cost.
Unless you walk to where you are hunting your gas is a much higher expense than even the most expensive shells out there.
I'm probably gonna shoot less than 10 turkey shells this year anyway including patterning.
No sir, Are you serious? I'm in college right now paying my own way, I could care less if he's dead because of lead or Hevi at 40 yds or under.. so why waste my money? I easily pattern more than 100 in a 10" at 40yds with those HV's...so in your eyes its "ethical", so why argue?
If he's a field bird at 50 yds, I'll have enough time to change loads, or I may not even take the shot and go around him once he leaves... either way dead bird.
Good luck with that reloading while a turkey is standing in front you..If you don't think a turkey can hear you and see you reloading a shotgun when he is 50 yards and closing..you must be new to the sport. You can hide in a blind but there's no way to reload a shotgun without a turkey hearing you. If money is that tight..sell the Hevi shot and hunt with the HV's and call them inside 40yds. Always remember..He is called a "wild turkey"..the less you move when a turkey is coming in the better off your gonna be.
Quote from: Longshanks on February 02, 2012, 08:21:22 PM....the less you move when a turkey is coming in the better off your gonna be.
I agree. Trying to switch out shells is just inviting ol' Murphy and his law to show up and spoil the hunt.