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Title: Heavy shot magnum blends vs straight 7's ?
Post by: Basin_hunter on February 01, 2012, 12:46:47 PM
I shoot an 870 express 12 gauge with a tight wad .660 choke. I used heavy shot magnum blends last year and they worked well for me. I was considering on trying the straight 7's rounds this year. Has anybody patterned both of these rounds through a Remington / tight wad ? Which round did you prefer ?

Thanks,

Cody
Title: Re: Heavy shot magnum blends vs straight 7's ?
Post by: SKFOOTER on February 01, 2012, 01:15:41 PM
They are the cat's meow with the Jellyhead .660, so the Tightwad .660 may be the ticket also. :wave:
Title: Re: Heavy shot magnum blends vs straight 7's ?
Post by: Basin_hunter on February 01, 2012, 01:23:56 PM
Quote from: SKFOOTER on February 01, 2012, 01:15:41 PM
They are the cat's meow with the Jellyhead .660, so the Tightwad .660 may be the ticket also. :wave:

The # 7's ?
Title: Re: Heavy shot magnum blends vs straight 7's ?
Post by: Wycliff on February 01, 2012, 01:32:00 PM
I'll be trying some 3" #7 in my 1187 with a tightwad this weekend if the weather permits.
Title: Re: Heavy shot magnum blends vs straight 7's ?
Post by: jtharpe on February 01, 2012, 03:22:44 PM
the 7s did better out of my jelly head 660
Title: Re: Heavy shot magnum blends vs straight 7's ?
Post by: Basin_hunter on February 01, 2012, 08:09:19 PM
How are the straight 7's in terms of knock down power ?
Title: Re: Heavy shot magnum blends vs straight 7's ?
Post by: SKFOOTER on February 01, 2012, 08:40:24 PM
Quote from: Basin_hunter on February 01, 2012, 01:23:56 PM
Quote from: SKFOOTER on February 01, 2012, 01:15:41 PM
They are the cat's meow with the Jellyhead .660, so the Tightwad .660 may be the ticket also. :wave:

The # 7's ?
Yes, the #7's.
Title: Re: Heavy shot magnum blends vs straight 7's ?
Post by: dirt road ninja on February 01, 2012, 08:42:22 PM
I shot both the magblends and 7's two weeks ago. My target showed the 7's carried the magblends. If you want more pellets shoot the 7's. If you want larger pellets shoot straight 6's. I just didn't see enough of the larger pellets in my targets to think they make a difference in magblends. I also ran a few thru my 20 gauge and it hated the magblends. Im going to shoot the straight 7's this year in both 12 and 20 gauge.

As far as knock down power. Their good out to further then you should shoot.
Title: Re: Heavy shot magnum blends vs straight 7's ?
Post by: Basin_hunter on February 01, 2012, 09:01:09 PM
Thanks !
Title: Re: Heavy shot magnum blends vs straight 7's ?
Post by: teke on February 01, 2012, 09:47:30 PM
The 7's
Title: Re: Heavy shot magnum blends vs straight 7's ?
Post by: WyoHunter on February 02, 2012, 12:34:08 AM
I've killed gobblers with both but I prefer 7's.
Title: Re: Heavy shot magnum blends vs straight 7's ?
Post by: JohnnieB on February 02, 2012, 06:22:17 AM
The #7 3 inch shells are devastating. The only shell I have used so far that are true bang flop rounds.
Title: Re: Heavy shot magnum blends vs straight 7's ?
Post by: TauntoHawk on February 02, 2012, 09:01:00 AM
 are the speeds for the Hevi-13 6's 1200fps??

Last year I patterned Mag blends and straight 7's out of my 3" 870 express, 21" barrel, and jellyhead .665

they both knocked the socks off of any lead load so I was happy with either. the 7's gave better numbers but for me the blends were more even.

I shot birds with both at roughly the same distance: 29 & 33 yds and again was happy with both.. I think im going to go with the 6's this year and mag blends with be the back up
Title: Re: Heavy shot magnum blends vs straight 7's ?
Post by: JohnnieB on February 02, 2012, 12:26:16 PM
Very interesting numbers. Thank you for the info.
Title: Re: Heavy shot magnum blends vs straight 7's ?
Post by: TauntoHawk on February 02, 2012, 12:59:15 PM
what the take on the comparision between #6's and Mag blends

they seem to get similar 10" numbers

the blends have some 5's and 7's to go along with the 6's but at a high velocity (why is that? same 2oz of shot)

does one do better in the energy/penetration than  the other
Title: Re: Heavy shot magnum blends vs straight 7's ?
Post by: TauntoHawk on February 02, 2012, 04:00:01 PM
Thanks, thats kinda the conclusion I was coming to about the mag blends.. Even after using the hevi-7's last year I really feel better switching to the over kill of 6's. im not looking to get 300+ in 10" @ 40 or have a 65yd gun.

My goal is an even 100 in 10" @ 50yds with 6's and never shoot over that plenty of knock down power in that range. Is that an attainable goal for the 6's

I want to buy 6 boxes tonight from Macks

Quote from: Spuriosity on February 02, 2012, 01:42:08 PM
Quote from: TauntoHawk on February 02, 2012, 12:59:15 PM
what the take on the comparision between #6's and Mag blends

they seem to get similar 10" numbers

the blends have some 5's and 7's to go along with the 6's but at a high velocity (why is that? same 2oz of shot)

does one do better in the energy/penetration than  the other
I have no idea why EM loads the MBs to 1200 fps vs 1090 for their straight 6s or 7s. And yes, a HS 7 launched at 1200 fps will outpenetrate a HS 7 launched at 1090 fps. But a 7 launched at 1200 fps will not outpenetrate a 6 at 1090. Nor will a 6 @ 1200 outpenetrate a 5 @ 1090.

IMO, if you believe that 7s have sufficient energy/penetration to kill turkeys at your given max range, you should shoot straight 7s. If you feel that 6s are req'd to get the job done, you should shoot straight 6s. In neither case would I count on the 5s in MBs to increase your range because of their greater penetration. There will not be enough of them on target at extended range to be of much benefit. I see no reason to shoot HS 5s at turkeys unless your gun will truly put more of them in a 10" circle than it will 6s or 7s, which I strongly doubt is the case.

I am not bashing MBs or those that use them. They will certainly kill turkeys and pattern very well. But if I had to choose between 200/10 with MBs or 200/10 with straight 6s, I would choose the 6s every time. MBs in my mind are a marketing ploy to lure hunters who are longtime 5 users that just cannot wrap their mind around the fact that HS 6s and 7s will kill turkeys and want to hedge their bets.
Title: Re: Heavy shot magnum blends vs straight 7's ?
Post by: Basin_hunter on February 02, 2012, 04:09:12 PM
Thanks for all the info guys !  :toothy9:

Title: Re: Heavy shot magnum blends vs straight 7's ?
Post by: TauntoHawk on February 02, 2012, 09:03:59 PM
good, I just bought 6 boxes of 3-2-6's and talked with William at sumtoy tonight.