I have a Brownging Gold 3 1/2 with a 28 inch barrel. Looking to set it up as a turkey gun. Any suggestions on a choke? Thanks.
I have both a Pure Gold .670 and an Indian Creek BDS .675 for my 3.5" BPS (24" barrel). Both pattern equally well with the various Hevi-Shot loads that I've used. Currently, I'm shooting the Pure Gold (much easier to keep clean) with the Mag Blends and have had really great luck with the combo.
Either. Or both. Each would be a good start.
The pellet count numbers with the Indian Creek are slightly better in my set-up too but that choke is a bark/debris magnet!!!
Of the 2, the PG would be my choice but I'd take a hard look at the Hevi-13 Turkey Choke as well.
Thanks,
Clark
Heck buy'em both. They are both excellent choke in my book. But the Pure Gold shoots great and easier to clean.
I like the looks of the IC more but I would go with the PG
Pure Gold.
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I use a IC .665 in my NWTF Browning Gold 12 ga. With H-13 3.5" 7's, I can get 300 pellets in a 10" circle at 40yds. consistently. My barrel is a 24".
I don't have any experience with the Pure Gold choke, but I do own a .660" Indian Creek for my Mossberg 535 Tactical Turkey.
I've tried many different chokes over the past few years, and found the Indian Creek choke delivers the best patterns out of any of them. Not only the best numbers, but also the most uniform with no holes or clumps of pellets.
The ports on Indian Creek BDS chokes can be a chore to clean out, but thats easily solved by soaking the choke in paint thinner and then using a Bronze brush to swab out the plastic fouling. It was a long search, but I'm done buying chokes now... the Indian Creek BDS is my go-to Turkey choke.
Remember people.... The person is asking for advice on a "Browning" not a Mossberg, Remington or any other brand so your results with another brand or your advice is immaterial and useless because it's not a Browning. So please mindful of this when members are asking for advice.
Bird
I am considering getting a Pure Gold to try in my Mossberg 835. I am going to get an 870 to make as a turkey gun just for fun and as a back up to the 835 I will definitely try a Pure Gold in it. Never had any experience with the IC but have heard nothing but great things about it. Thought about trying one also, but if the PG is easier to clean then that is what I will go with. Good Luck and keep us up to date!
Deer season in MS will be over in a week. Then I'll be patterning an Indian Creek .665 in my BPS. I'm curious if any here have tried both a .665 and a .675 Indian Creek in a Browning?
If so, what were the results with Lead and/or HTL?
Quote from: el diablo on January 25, 2012, 11:27:48 AM
I have and the .675 out performed the .665 with the 3.5" hevi 7's, 6's, and magblends. The .670 and .675 constrictions seem to be the best place to start with INV + guns.
Same results I had from my BPS.
There's a good chance any difference between the .670 PG and the .675 IC will be negligible anyway, so I suggest starting with the one you can get the best price on. I have a .670 PG on my BPS now. If I can find a .675 IC at a bargain price someday, maybe I'll try it. For now, I'm perfectly content. ;)
I have a browning silver and have both the 670 pure gold and the 675 Indian creek. I get equal results with those two chokes. I have also tried the 665 Indian creek but it didn't pattern as well as the 675. The jelly head by primos also shot well in my gun. I currently shoot a 670 rhino with hevi 7s getting around 260 in the 10 @ 40yds. Hope this will help.
Brent
I have shot the IC and a Rhino through my X-2 ( same gun as yours) and the Rhino put up better numbers than the IC. Can not say about the PG choke though. I was shooting the hevi mag blends hevi #6 and #7's. The rhino did bettel with all three.
I haven't shot the .675 IC in my SX3 but I did shoot a .675 Madd Super Maxx and a .675 Kicks and the .665 IC out shot both of those with Winchester XRHD 3.5 2oz. #6 and Hevi 2.25 # 7.
Why is that?
Quote from: allaboutshooting on January 23, 2012, 11:29:59 AM
Of the 2, the PG would be my choice but I'd take a hard look at the Hevi-13 Turkey Choke as well.
Thanks,
Clark
Quote from: ncturkey on January 26, 2012, 02:35:28 PM
Why is that? Quote from: allaboutshooting on January 23, 2012, 11:29:59 AM
Of the 2, the PG would be my choice but I'd take a hard look at the Hevi-13 Turkey Choke as well.
Thanks,
Clark
I don't know Clark's reasoning but I will offer my two cents. The Hevishot choke has internal steps like the Indian Creek and doesn't have all that many parallel slots that weaken the construction. The Hevishot choke I have in my Xtrema smoked every other choke I've tried using Hevi 7's. Plus it's cheaper than an IC. I feel the PG would be a better option than the IC as well, simply from a durability standpoint.
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Well I used to own a Browning Gold 3.5" semi-auto. And I shot mostly lead loads with it and used a .675 Comp-n-Choke to obtain my best patterns. I did shoot some Rem Hevi-Shot shells I think that were 3" 1.75oz #6 loads out of this choke which now know is not recommended, but it shot super patterns. But I will tell you that .670 to .675 should be about a great exit diameter to start with. Both of these chokes will shoot. Take your pick. I have owned both but not for the Browning. But in my Rem 870 both shot about the exact same.
QuoteWhy is that?
I have spent a small fortune on various shells and chokes. I have barely gotten any choke/shell combo to break 200 inside 10 inches at 40 yards. The Hevishot choke with Hevi 7's put 278 inside 10 inches at 40 yards out of my 835. Not saying they will out perform every other choke by that margin in any gun of course. There is, of course, no way to kniow which choke a gun will like best. But I'd say they warrant being considered right up there with the other top chokes out there.
Quote from: goblr77 on January 26, 2012, 05:41:43 PM
Quote from: ncturkey on January 26, 2012, 02:35:28 PM
Why is that? Quote from: allaboutshooting on January 23, 2012, 11:29:59 AM
Of the 2, the PG would be my choice but I'd take a hard look at the Hevi-13 Turkey Choke as well.
Thanks,
Clark
I don't know Clark's reasoning but I will offer my two cents. The Hevishot choke has internal steps like the Indian Creek and doesn't have all that many parallel slots that weaken the construction. The Hevishot choke I have in my Xtrema smoked every other choke I've tried using Hevi 7's. Plus it's cheaper than an IC. I feel the PG would be a better option than the IC as well, simply from a durability standpoint.
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That's one reason.
Thanks,
Clark
Quote from: Todd1700 on January 26, 2012, 11:18:34 PM
QuoteWhy is that?
I have spent a small fortune on various shells and chokes. I have barely gotten any choke/shell combo to break 200 inside 10 inches at 40 yards. The Hevishot choke with Hevi 7's put 278 inside 10 inches at 40 yards out of my 835. Not saying they will out perform every other choke by that margin in any gun of course. There is, of course, no way to kniow which choke a gun will like best. But I'd say they warrant being considered right up there with the other top chokes out there.
That's another reason.
Thanks,
Clark
Quote from: ncturkey on January 26, 2012, 02:35:28 PM
Why is that? Quote from: allaboutshooting on January 23, 2012, 11:29:59 AM
Of the 2, the PG would be my choice but I'd take a hard look at the Hevi-13 Turkey Choke as well.
Thanks,
Clark
Of the 2 chokes mentioned, I would choose the Pure Gold. It has a very strong and robust design, proven over many years, with all kinds of turkey shotshells.
I also try to shoot every choke tube that's available to us as turkey hunters and as far as I know, I've done that. There are many good chokes out there today and that's a very good thing.
When I evaluate anything, chokes tubes included, I look first at performance. It must perform. Secondly, it must be worth the money you have to pay for it.
Based upon my experience, of comparing all the turkey chokes out there today, for anyone looking at a new turkey choke, it really is worthwhile to consider the Hevi-13 Turkey Chokes. They are well made, of excellent materials, well designed and very fairly priced.
Thanks,
Clark
I did not think about the cost. I have not tried the Hevi-shot choke yet. I have both the PG and the IC choke both are great chokes. I have not had any problems with either chokes. Have you had trouble with the Indian Choke you have tested.
Quote from: allaboutshooting on January 26, 2012, 11:46:30 PM
Quote from: ncturkey on January 26, 2012, 02:35:28 PM
Why is that? Quote from: allaboutshooting on January 23, 2012, 11:29:59 AM
Of the 2, the PG would be my choice but I'd take a hard look at the Hevi-13 Turkey Choke as well.
Thanks,
Clark
Of the 2 chokes mentioned, I would choose the Pure Gold. It has a very strong and robust design, proven over many years, with all kinds of turkey shotshells.
I also try to shoot every choke tube that's available to us as turkey hunters and as far as I know, I've done that. There are many good chokes out there today and that's a very good thing.
When I evaluate anything, chokes tubes included, I look first at performance. It must perform. Secondly, it must be worth the money you have to pay for it.
Based upon my experience, of comparing all the turkey chokes out there today, for anyone looking at a new turkey choke, it really is worthwhile to consider the Hevi-13 Turkey Chokes. They are well made, of excellent materials, well designed and very fairly priced.
Thanks,
Clark
My SX3 12 ga.inv plus has a Indian Creek .665. I shoot 3" Mag Blend and average 223 at 40 yards 10" circle. I'm going to try a Hevi 13 choke based upon what Clark has said. He knows what he is talking about. Of course every gun likes different chokes. Boy patterning guns is fun and exciting. Makes me want to run to the target after every shot!
What is the better choke for a benelli m2 12 gauge with a 26" barrel shooting 3" nitro 5x6x7
Indian creek or rhino?
pure gold for me out of my SBE I with mag blends
Well currently I am a bit unhappy with both of them. Got a PG in Dec and finally got to pattern it last week. Didn't like it more then what I had so I wanted to see about the 660 instead. Only get 30 days on it so I was stuck with it. Lessoned learned to buy a choke when I am ready to shoot it. Thing only had 1 shot out of it but because of the weather they wouldn't do anything for me
update: did finally get the new IC choke in the mail from Mike so I am now happy again with IC lol