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Title: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: Jay on February 17, 2011, 08:57:37 PM
For relegious beliefs. Basically he belongs to a branch of the Penecostal relegion that frowns on men being physical with women, in any kind of environment. The boy made his own decision on this, supposedly not influenced by pastor or parents. I'm really mixed on this one. On one hand if a girl is good enough to compete with boys than so be it, however, due to the obvious closeness of the support, and areas involved in grappling, I can see how this could be an issue with some. What do you guys feel about this, and if you have a girl, how would you feel about her competing in the sport?
Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: Crutch on February 17, 2011, 09:05:20 PM
Everybody is prejudice about something and I am no exception. I am totally for girls competing against boys as long as it isn't my daughter in that specific situation. 
In my highschool days I would have jumped at the chance even if I knew she was going to kick my tale, but I respect and admire that young man. We all justify our actions to often and let things go that shouldn't. Just look at what television has become. It is all because of men not holding a standard.
Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: Jay on February 17, 2011, 09:11:20 PM
Sadly he is a lot better wrestler than her, and had a legit chance to do well in State, while she has already been pinned, and out. These kids work their butt off to compete in this Sport all year round, and it's a shame he didn't get a chance because of the situation.
Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: socalturkeyman on February 17, 2011, 09:36:43 PM
I think he should has wrestled,why not the girls parents knew the risk and if its okay with CIF regs than it shouldn't have mattered. If that was my daughter I would have to told her to go for it and try your best. Which I'm sure the parents did. And as for the boy I respect that, but he lost out on a chance to be looked at for hight education. Now thats what I have a problem with,It sad that he missed out on a chance like that. But hopefully next year is different for him. Oh and the girl!
Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: Hognutz on February 17, 2011, 09:41:24 PM
If it goes against what he believes, then he did the right thing. Obviously, he felt more about his beliefs than his wrestling career. My hats off to him.  :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: knightrider on February 17, 2011, 09:50:15 PM
kudos to the young man for doing what he believes in :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: bird on February 17, 2011, 09:55:10 PM
More to the story is that he is also a youth minister at this church and when Cedar Falls had a match earlier this year with Lin-Mar he forfeited that match to her too.  The young man stands firms in his beliefs and for that you have to respect him for his decision.  He took 3rd in State last year and the best he can do now again this year will also be 3rd.  He is a sophomore so he has allot of school left to accomplish a State Title.
Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: turkey slayer on February 17, 2011, 09:56:19 PM
Quote from: knightrider on February 17, 2011, 09:50:15 PM
kudos to the young man for doing what he believes in :icon_thumright:
ditto
Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: paladin on February 17, 2011, 10:01:55 PM
I always liked wrestling with girls :you_rock: :lol:
Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: hookedspur on February 17, 2011, 10:04:32 PM
  >:( >:( >:( i feel bad for him . I wish he would have faced her on the mat just like he did every other opponent but i know he couldn't.
Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: Crutch on February 17, 2011, 10:06:55 PM
He will not be forgotten as another kid that won something but will always be remembered as a kid with backbone that made a stand for what he believed in. I hope he has a chance to show his stuff next year.
Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: triune on February 17, 2011, 10:21:15 PM
Being a believer in the Lord is not something you do but something you are.  Wish I had his wisdom when I was a sophomore in HS.
Kenny
Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: Preacher on February 17, 2011, 10:25:44 PM
Good for him!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: redleg06 on February 17, 2011, 11:40:33 PM
As a dad,I hope that one day my son has the same kind of conviction to stand for whatever he believes in, even if it means sacrificing something he would like to have.
 
Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: Solid Snake on February 18, 2011, 08:51:18 AM
As much as we respect him for following what he believes in and standing for it, I guarantee he got made fun of in school big time for not wrestling her. Kids can be pretty cruel to each other.
Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: Wycliff on February 18, 2011, 09:02:39 AM
Quote from: redleg06 on February 17, 2011, 11:40:33 PM
As a dad,I hope that one day my son has the same kind of conviction to stand for whatever he believes in, even if it means sacrificing something he would like to have.
 

This :smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an
Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: bird on February 18, 2011, 09:03:46 AM
Quote from: Shaw24 on February 18, 2011, 08:51:18 AM
As much as we respect him for following what he believes in and standing for it, I guarantee he got made fun of in school big time for not wrestling her. Kids can be pretty cruel to each other.

I doubt very much that he was ridiculed for his stance.  The girl that he was suppose to wrestle is from the town that I live in and even the girls family is standing behind his decision and beliefs.  Again this is not the first time that he has opted to not wrestle her.  Earlier in the season at a dual meet he forfeited that match also.  The news coverage here in Iowa has been very favorable on his behalf.
Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: Solid Snake on February 18, 2011, 09:13:51 AM
Quote from: bird on February 18, 2011, 09:03:46 AM
Quote from: Shaw24 on February 18, 2011, 08:51:18 AM
As much as we respect him for following what he believes in and standing for it, I guarantee he got made fun of in school big time for not wrestling her. Kids can be pretty cruel to each other.

I doubt very much that he was ridiculed for his stance.  The girl that he was suppose to wrestle is from the town that I live in and even the girls family is standing behind his decision and beliefs.  The news coverage here in Iowa has been very favorable on his behalf.

I hope you're right! I guess if he's a wrestler that is qualified to go to state then I doubt too many people would pick on him!
Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: tgs on February 18, 2011, 09:37:39 AM
That's to bad.  We have girls that wrestle here at the youth level and a few go on to compete in high school.  Good that he's willing to stand by his beliefs, too bad 3rd place is his reward, provided he wins all his matches.  With officals knowing this, you would hope that they would place them in opposing brackets or he could always go up or down a weight class.
Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: stinkpickle on February 18, 2011, 10:35:41 AM
I feel sorry for her, though.  To make it to state in Iowa is a huge accomplishment.  If I made it and had my opponent forfeit, because of something about me that I couldn't control, I'd be seriously pizzed!
Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: Peck1524 on February 18, 2011, 10:46:58 AM
Quote from: stinkpickle on February 18, 2011, 10:35:41 AM
I feel sorry for her, though.  To make it to state in Iowa is a huge accomplishment.  If I made it and had my opponent forfeit, because of something about me that I couldn't control, I'd be seriously pizzed!

I agree with Stinky. The girl was obviously good enough to make it to states. Now if she is able to progress in the tournament it will be because "that boy wouldn't wrestle her".
Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: lightsoutcalls on February 18, 2011, 10:52:13 AM
The young man has the makings of a hero in my book.  Too many folks these days are willing to compromise their beliefs to get ahead.  

Mark 8:36 (The Message)

34-37Calling the crowd to join his disciples, he said, "Anyone who intends to come with me has to let me lead. You're not in the driver's seat; I am. Don't run from suffering; embrace it. Follow me and I'll show you how. Self-help is no help at all. Self-sacrifice is the way, my way, to saving yourself, your true self. What good would it do to get everything you want and lose you, the real you? What could you ever trade your soul for?

I have a feeling this young man knows where his "reward" or "trophies" will be received.


Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: TrackeySauresRex on February 18, 2011, 11:26:44 AM
Quote from: redleg06 on February 17, 2011, 11:40:33 PM
As a dad,I hope that one day my son has the same kind of conviction to stand for whatever he believes in, even if it means sacrificing something he would like to have.

Well said x2


Pesonally, JMHO.....and Respectfully.....There should be a girls division if they want in,they should not be wrestleing with young men. 
If any one has attended one of these matches. They will know. These kids try to hurt each outher seriously, and its no place for a girl. Plain and simple!


Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: runngun on February 18, 2011, 11:27:19 AM
She lost this morning
Title: Re: Boy refuses to wrestle girl in State Tournament
Post by: ghillie on February 18, 2011, 12:23:31 PM
I'm very proud of him for standing up for what he believes...

There were actually two girls that made it to the state tourney...and your right...for them to get that far in Iowa...says something...