Howdy,Im a bit new to turkey hunting..I picked up a Mossberg 835 Ulti-mag with 24in barrel,woodland camo with a drilled an tapped receiver...Where do i start choke,and load wise?I dont mind spending up to 30-50$ for choke an 15 to 20$ for 10 rounds of lead...Any thoughts?What is a reasonably priced red dot that will work? I look forward to learning from all of you
ohiomossyoak ,
Dollar for dollar the Primos Jellyhead is solid choke in the 835's. If you keep an eye on the classifieds here you should be able to pick up a quality choke used for 40% - 50% under retail.
As far as lead goes the Winchester HV #6 is a decent shell. I would venture to say your gun with the factory turkey choke and some Heavy 13's #7's will put up better numbers then a aftermarket choke with lead. Mine does. If your looking to put up big numbers on the pattern board your going to have to shoot a heavy shot., but I've killed turkeys with both and they never knew the difference.
I currently don't shoot a scoped turkey gun, but have had very good luck the Tru-Glo magmun series open sights. They are easy to install, rock solid and have withstood a plenty of 3.5" rounds. They sell for around 60 bucks.
The 835's are great turkey guns and seem to be a little easier to performance out of then most other guns.
Good Luck.
Quote from: ohiomossyoak on December 21, 2011, 01:09:14 PMHowdy, I'm a bit new to turkey hunting.. I picked up a Mossberg 835 Ulti-mag with 24in barrel, woodland camo with a drilled an tapped receiver... Where do I start choke, and load wise? I dont mind spending up to 30-50$ for choke an 15 to 20$ for 10 rounds of lead... Any thoughts? What is a reasonably priced red dot that will work? I look forward to learning from all of you
I would recommend the following Pb (lead) loads.....
• Federal® Flitecontrol® Mag-Shok™ 3" Mag #PFC159F
• Federal® Flitecontrol® Mag-Shok™ 3½" Mag #PFC135F
• Winchester® SuperX® 3" Mag #X123MT
• Winchester® Supreme® 3½" Mag #STH1235
You will want to try these in #4, 5, & 6 shot within the same brand to see what patterns the best in your gun. IME, Mossberg® Ulti-Mag® Mdl 835 shotguns pattern larger Pb shot (#4 & 5) really well.
As for chokes try TruGlo® Strut Stopper Xtreme™, Primos® Jellyhead™, or Indian Creek®'
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put some Winn supreme HV's through your factory turkey choke. All my buddies that shoot mossbergs have good results with that combo. I would only buy the federals if I had some money to play with. Your gun might like them, but chances are good it might not. Winnchester is the way to got with lead IMO.
Quote from: Kylongspur88 on December 21, 2011, 11:15:54 PM
put some Winn supreme HV's through your factory turkey choke. All my buddies that shoot mossbergs have good results with that combo. I would only buy the federals if I had some money to play with. Your gun might like them, but chances are good it might not. Winnchester is the way to got with lead IMO.
Agreed. I'd try the Win HV 3.5-2-6's and Win XX 3.5-2.25-6's with the factory choke first.
As for sights, the only thing I can recommend is William's Fire Sights, because that's all I use.
Sounds like i may have some good starting points..Thanks
Anybody else
The Winchester XX Magnum turkey shells(red shell) in the 3.5-2.25-6 is a very good lead load.
The 835's have an overbored barrel, and really like to eat. Combine that with a good turkey choke, and you will have a 35-40 yard killer on your hands!
I recently had an 835 and used the stock Ulti Full turkey choke with Federal Flight Control wads 5 shot 3.5". It put up a good pattern to 35 yards. I tried a Comp-N-Choke and Win #4 and #5 and it didn't do as well as the stock choke with Federal. I didn't have the $$$ at the time to try other chokes and loads, so you may get significantly better with the chokes others have mentioned.
Now if you want to be baffled with hits in a 10" at 40 yards, try the Hevi-13 #7. Major drawback here is the cost. See my post under "turkey Guns" for my results with my new 935, it amazed me!
Quote from: chatterbox on December 26, 2011, 06:27:44 PM
The Winchester XX Magnum turkey shells(red shell) in the 3.5-2-6 is a very good lead load.
The 835's have an overbored barrel, and really like to eat. Combine that with a good turkey choke, and you will have a 35-40 yard killer on your hands!
Are those the silver grey box?
Quote from: ohiomossyoak on December 27, 2011, 10:59:16 AM
Quote from: chatterbox on December 26, 2011, 06:27:44 PM
The Winchester XX Magnum turkey shells(red shell) in the 3.5-2-6 is a very good lead load.
The 835's have an overbored barrel, and really like to eat. Combine that with a good turkey choke, and you will have a 35-40 yard killer on your hands!
Are those the silver grey box?
Here is a description from Cabelas. These are actually 2.25oz in the 3.5 shell.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Winchester-Supreme-Double-X-Magnum-Turkey-Loads/740968.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3DsearchForm%26N%3D0%26fsch%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3Dwinchester%2BXX%2Bmagnum%2Bturkey%2Bloads%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%2BProducts%26x%3D9%26y%3D11&Ntt=winchester+XX+magnum+turkey+loads
Winchester® 12 Gauge 3 1/2", 2 1/4 oz. Supreme Double X® Magnum Copper Plated Turkey Loads???Am I on track?
You betcha. Those, or the Federal loads like the ones I posted up. :icon_thumright:
the Winchester XX 3.5" Magnums or the" OLD" Federal 3.5" Magnums in #5's or 6's with a .670 to .680 choke tube are deadly in the 835
the newer "Flight control"Federal shells are deadly with the factory full choke out to 45 yds in my 835
when it comes to red dots busnell makes a good durable scope. I have had bad experiences with truglo red dots.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Bushnell174-Trophy-Multi-Reticle-Red-Green-Dot-Scope/749018.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3DsearchForm%26N%3D0%26fsch%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3Dbushnell%2Bred%2Bdot%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%2BProducts%26x%3D24%26y%3D5&Ntt=bushnell+red+dot&WTz_l=Header%3BSearch-All+Products
Thanks for the input...I had a issue with a tru glo archery product in the past..And they took very good care of me..The bushnell only has a 2yr warranty VS the tru glo gobble stopper lifetime..That is why I am leaning that way..And price..If i had the cash I would go with a Vortex Red dot..Im a big fan of there stuff an there warranty an optics are great IMO..
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I would go with a PG .670, a bushnell trophy red dot, and Winchester XX Magnum in 3.5 #6.
That will probably be your best bet with lead. Your biggest investment will be the PG. If you don't want to spend the money on the PG, go with a JH .690.
I don't believe you will do any better. If the XX magnums don't work, I would just go with Winchester Supreme HV.
Unless you are going to go HTL, there are not many other options.
No way a Bushnell is in budget..The rest sounds fine...
I have a Carlson Ported .675 that will work well with many of the previously mentioned shells. I traded my 835 but still have the choke. Would like to sell the choke asking $25 plus shipping.
TLT
Thanks! I will keep that in mind..Im still in the decision making stage at this point
Not sure about the choke for an 835, but Federal # 5's have been good to me.
There's a couple of .670 Kicks GT's on Ebay and some Hastings .675's also team either one up with some Winchester HV 3.5" 2+z. #6's and you should have a workable pattern.
Quote from: chipper on February 01, 2012, 08:28:28 PM
There's a couple of .670 Kicks GT's on Ebay and some Hastings .675's also team either one up with some Winchester HV 3.5" 2+z. #6's and you should have a workable pattern.
Thanks!!>.Im going to check them out now
Quote from: ohiomossyoak on December 28, 2011, 06:06:52 PM
Winchester® 12 Gauge 3 1/2", 2 1/4 oz. Supreme Double X® Magnum Copper Plated Turkey Loads???Am I on track?
Yup, that is bad medicine for the turkeys..buy a box of those..pattern at 40yds..draw a 10 in circle around the center of your pattern provided your POA/POI is on. 100+ in a 10 in circle at 40yds and your ready to go turkey hunting. Read up on the other categories on this website about..blinds, decoy,calling, camo (head to toe), setup, and safety. :anim_25:
kicks here
Quote from: Longshanks on February 06, 2012, 10:24:44 AM
Quote from: ohiomossyoak on December 28, 2011, 06:06:52 PM
Winchester® 12 Gauge 3 1/2", 2 1/4 oz. Supreme Double X® Magnum Copper Plated Turkey Loads???Am I on track?
Yup, that is bad medicine for the turkeys..buy a box of those..pattern at 40yds..draw a 10 in circle around the center of your pattern provided your POA/POI is on. 100+ in a 10 in circle at 40yds and your ready to go turkey hunting. Read up on the other categories on this website about..blinds, decoy,calling, camo (head to toe), setup, and safety. :anim_25:
Thats a ton for the advice ;D ;D
I just picked up a star dot and goin to pattern soon so I will have a Kicks GT if all goes well with the Star dot!
I shot winchester supreme 3.5's i think #5 shot out of a 835 with jellyhead when i had the gun. Turkeys didnt complain to bad. but I never really patterned it much to know the difference between shells
Another vote for the Winchester XX and HV shells. I shot them through a Kicks GT. 665 for years out of my 870.
Never had any lost birds with either shell.
Quote from: surehuntsalot on December 28, 2011, 08:02:41 PM
the Winchester XX 3.5" Magnums or the" OLD" Federal 3.5" Magnums in #5's or 6's with a .670 to .680 choke tube are deadly in the 835
the newer "Flight control"Federal shells are deadly with the factory full choke out to 45 yds in my 835
Never shot a turkey with them, but got good patterns with the factory choke and "Flight Control" Federal 3" #5s.