You are not going to believe this one...
From the Butterball website:
"With expertise in catering to the cultural and linguistic needs of countries all around the world, we are USDA Approved, Russian Approved, and Halal Certified."
http://products.butterballcorp.com/intl/ (http://products.butterballcorp.com/intl/)
What does Halal certified mean?
"To be halal certified the animal must be facing Mecca, have its throat cut while still alive and then ritually sacrificed by a Muslim who recites a prayer dedicating the slaughter to Allah. Fees must be paid to one of the certifying organisations for this service. Islamic certifying organisations benefit financially from providing this service. They receive a constant stream of funds to support Islamic projects which contribute to the advancement of sharia (Islamic law) here and around the world."
http://www.halalchoices.com.au/what_is_halal.html (http://www.halalchoices.com.au/what_is_halal.html)
Yes, folks, your Butterball turkey was killed in the name of allah and according to approved muslim slaughter practices.
I can assure you there will be no butterball turkeys on my table.
[I can assure you there will be no butterball turkeys on my table.]
Amen to that Brother! Woops, was that offensive?
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Great...that news is about three days too late. >:(
Quote from: stinkpickle on November 22, 2011, 04:44:16 PM
Great...that news is about three days too late. >:(
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Anybody seen America lately? :help:
No Butterballs for me. Hey corporate America... thanks for caving into yet another Islamic special interest.
Quote from: Gitzit69 on November 23, 2011, 10:25:17 AM
Quote from: stinkpickle on November 22, 2011, 04:44:16 PM
Great...that news is about three days too late. >:(
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Sorry, I posted within 30 minutes of hearing about it myself. It would have been less than that, but I wanted to check the websites myself before posting.
Thats the last straw ! From now on I am going to learn how to turkey hunt, and kill my dang turkeys .
Quote from: Old Gobbler on November 23, 2011, 10:39:11 AM
Thats the last straw ! From now on I am going to learn how to turkey hunt, and kill my dang turkeys .
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Wendell is right on this , how pathetic {looks to be true as posted on their very own site} is any company that cowtoes to pressure from special interest groups , especially one like this - this is BS
I did a quick google search and found out that this true rumor is in fact viral now and is spreading on every social site on the net including facebook -
I can tell you right now there will be a backlash and consumers will not want any part of their thanksgiving celebration tainted with the hint of some Muslim ceremony
Butterball will be tainted with reputation of the "muzlim turkey" and be typeset as a substandard in quality , consumers will actually look for other brands in preference over the name brand butterball
Quote from: Old Gobbler on November 23, 2011, 12:55:38 PM
Wendell is right on this , how pathetic {looks to be true as posted on their very own site} is any company that cowtoes to pressure from special interest groups , especially one like this - this is BS
I did a quick google search and found out that this true rumor is in fact viral now and is spreading on every social site on the net including facebook -
I can tell you right now there will be a backlash and consumers will not want any part of their thanksgiving celebration tainted with the hint of some Muslim ceremony
Butterball will be tainted with reputation of the "muzlim turkey" and be typeset as a substandard in quality , consumers will actually look for other brands in preference over the name brand butterball
Nauseating. If s#^t keeps happening, the American way of life will not end with a bang, but with a wimper.
Quote from: aristico on November 23, 2011, 05:42:39 PM
I just bought three butterball turkeys today. I don't care if it was killed in the name Jesus, Allah or Buddha they still taste great.
"Fees must be paid to one of the certifying organisations for this service. Islamic certifying organisations benefit financially from providing this service. They receive a constant stream of funds to support Islamic projects which contribute to the advancement of sharia (Islamic law) here and around the world." I dont care if it's the best tasting turkey in the world, this bothers me and should every American.
HC
the thing about islam it's not just another religion it's a form of gopvermant that has its own financial system its own laws its a way of life a very opressed life to say the least and i hope i speak for a lot a folks on here that we dont want anything to do with anything muslim or islamic
read the koran and understand shirah law its fact do some reading on the subject from a source other than the libral crap aw heck just read the koran it's not sad just fact
Quote from: aristico on November 23, 2011, 06:45:45 PM
Everyone has a right to believe and live how they wish though.
This is true to a point, but not to a muslim islamic point though, Wes is right that their religion is also their goverment, financing and laws. Sure we have the right to believe and live as we please, just look at whats going on in the world today but in the muslim faith you have no right to believe anything but islam, believe or die is their motto, women have no rights at all, a muslim womans vote is worth a 1/4 of a mans and the husband/father has the right by law to go as far as stoneing their wife/daughter to death for what ever reason they see fit. An American co. like Butterball paying fees to a "certifying organization" to become politicaily correct and cattering to them is just wrong and we should not have anything to do with them, what would happen if Butterball came out and said "We process every bird after preying in the name of Jesus" ( I for one would think it was cool), just think of the backlash from that.
Quote from: aristico on November 23, 2011, 08:03:23 PM
Again let me clarify....My point is not to defend Islam or that I believe in the Koran or what it stands for. My point is that there is no need to offend someone just because they don't believe in what you do. Should I refuse service to any Muslim that walks into my business because I don't believe in their religion? That sounds very 1950's and 60's Deep South to me.......Plus I would soon be looking for a nice bridge to live under.....
are you passive aggressively calling me racist don't try to drag what happened in the 50's and 60's into this because the is no similarties i assure you
we all need to understand whats really at stake here our very way of life and our life it's not just another religion they want to rule the world weather it is by force or population the end result is the same look at whats happening in Europe with the countries over their allowing shariah law do you want your daughter to marry a Muslim and get stoned to death for going outside without her face covered or your grandchild getting his hand cutoff for stealing a piece of gum the constitution and shariah law can not coexist they are polar opposites
TO say that the scum bags at the top are the problem is the problem is not accurate, just look at regions bank. They started charging fees for their accounts and had some back lash. When the consumers (like my self) fled the company to another bank not charging fees, they recended the fees and refunded them. The bank I went to said they were getting a flood of regions customers due to the fees. I chose not to continue the use of regions bank. That is capitalism at work. I had the choice to bank with whomever I wanted based on what I felt in my best intrerist. They tried to regain my business, but I chose another bank who did not charge me fees. Try doing that with all these liberal policies and agendas. Not going to happen.
These things tend to work themselves out. The statement..."They receive a constant stream of funds to support Islamic projects which contribute to the advancement of sharia (Islamic law) here and around the world." needs to be backed up with a verifiable source. I don't buy it.
More info...
http://www.thatsnonsense.com/view.php?id=1437 (http://www.thatsnonsense.com/view.php?id=1437)
I lived in the Middle East for two years. Sharia law blows, so does Islam. If that offends you, whatever.
Quote from: CASH on November 24, 2011, 08:53:40 AM
I lived in the Middle East for two years. Sharia law blows, so does Islam. If that offends you, whatever.
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well said man happy thanks giving
Quote from: gob09 on November 24, 2011, 11:48:17 AM
Quote from: CASH on November 24, 2011, 08:53:40 AM
I lived in the Middle East for two years. Sharia law blows, so does Islam. If that offends you, whatever.
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well said man happy thanks giving
Quote from: aristico on November 23, 2011, 08:03:23 PM
Again let me clarify....My point is not to defend Islam or that I believe in the Koran or what it stands for. My point is that there is no need to offend someone just because they don't believe in what you do. Should I refuse service to any Muslim that walks into my business because I don't believe in their religion? That sounds very 1950's and 60's Deep South to me.......Plus I would soon be looking for a nice bridge to live under.....
do you share your gift for being offended with everyone or just muslims or librals causes
sounds very libral and progresive to me
and ya know what they say bout librals
No more butterballs for us.
Quote from: Flydown on November 24, 2011, 01:14:50 PM
Quote from: flintlock on November 24, 2011, 12:44:11 PM
No more butterballs for us.
I agree. Never again.
i had ham for thanksgiving and it was very good. i hope everyone enjoyed this day of thanks with family and friends
Hmm... If I owned Butterball I'd hire an Iman to sell to Muslims, a Jewish Rabbi to make it kosher and whatever else I needed to do to sell turkeys. If I wanted to convert them to Christianity I'd live a life of love, mercy and grace, like Jesus said to do.
your right i should not have wrote that, but also like you said earlier i call it like i see it and i have to say what was writen earlier looks like librelism to me. if im wrong or offended you i dont really care .but if you are libral dont worry its not your fault libralism is a mental disorder there is help.
with all the politcal correctness going around and worrying about hurting someones feelings is whats wrong with a lot of folks today.
i dont care what anyone else says or thinks about me or my life i've had a hard one and it wont change how i live or believe
i may be some back woods redneck hillbilly or whatever you want to call it. i do know this much paying a muslim to cut the throat of a turkey while facing meca is a sacrificial killing to a false god. and it's wrong in my eyes for an american company to do that . you think a muslim company would pay a priest to bless the turkeys? heck no they would'nt. they would cut the priests head off and send it to his family.
there is not a hateful bone in my body and tolerence is over rated i have many black and mexican friends some even hunt with me but i cant get any muslims to go not sure why.
all kidding aside there koran tells them to cut yours and my head off . when my friends and family are over there fighting the so called extremist and the rest of the so called peace loving religon stands by and says nothing. i have a huge problem with that and you should to
i guess we will have to agree to disa gree on this one
Quote from: gob09 on November 24, 2011, 07:30:09 PM
your right i should not have wrote that, but also like you said earlier i call it like i see it and i have to say what was writen earlier looks like librelism to me. if im wrong or offended you i dont really care .but if you are libral dont worry its not your fault libralism is a mental disorder there is help.
with all the politcal correctness going around and worrying about hurting someones feelings is whats wrong with a lot of folks today.
i dont care what anyone else says or thinks about me or my life i've had a hard one and it wont change how i live or believe
i may be some back woods redneck hillbilly or whatever you want to call it. i do know this much paying a muslim to cut the throat of a turkey while facing meca is a sacrificial killing to a false god. and it's wrong in my eyes for an american company to do that . you think a muslim company would pay a priest to bless the turkeys? heck no they would'nt. they would cut the priests head off and send it to his family.
there is not a hateful bone in my body and tolerence is over rated i have many black and mexican friends some even hunt with me but i cant get any muslims to go not sure why.
all kidding aside there koran tells them to cut yours and my head off . when my friends and family are over there fighting the so called extremist and the rest of the so called peace loving religon stands by and says nothing. i have a huge problem with that and you should to
i guess we will have to agree to disa gree on this one
And the dynamite goes boom,,,,,Well said Wes....
Quote from: aristico on November 24, 2011, 04:33:31 PM
I get offended by people who preach hatred and intolerance.
Then why are you quick to defend islam. They are quite a bit more intolerant than 95% of most americans.
Quote from: lightsoutcalls on November 22, 2011, 03:48:35 PM
You are not going to believe this one...
From the Butterball website:
"With expertise in catering to the cultural and linguistic needs of countries all around the world, we are USDA Approved, Russian Approved, and Halal Certified."
http://products.butterballcorp.com/intl/ (http://products.butterballcorp.com/intl/)
What does Halal certified mean?
"To be halal certified the animal must be facing Mecca, have its throat cut while still alive and then ritually sacrificed by a Muslim who recites a prayer dedicating the slaughter to Allah. Fees must be paid to one of the certifying organisations for this service. Islamic certifying organisations benefit financially from providing this service. They receive a constant stream of funds to support Islamic projects which contribute to the advancement of sharia (Islamic law) here and around the world."
http://www.halalchoices.com.au/what_is_halal.html (http://www.halalchoices.com.au/what_is_halal.html)
Yes, folks, your Butterball turkey was killed in the name of allah and according to approved muslim slaughter practices.
I can assure you there will be no butterball turkeys on my table.
Don't panic. That link is from a crackpot website in Australia. I also couldn't find on that site any mention of Butterball money going to certifying organisations. I call hoax.
I get my turkey from an AMERICAN FARMER I know what it has been fed and how it has been raised. and I support my local economy and no one else
Quote from: Woodsman4God on November 26, 2011, 09:42:12 AM
I get my turkey from an AMERICAN FARMER I know what it has been fed and how it has been raised. and I support my local economy and no one else
Thats the way it should be . Local ......
The O.P. is sensational but not exactly accurate. If one wants to get to the bottom of it, he can read up in the USDA regs and publications for the Food Safety division (FSIS) of the USDA.
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OPPDE/rdad/FSISDirectives/6030.1Rev1.pdf
Maybe I missed something in all of the "legal speak" of that link, but it appears to be talking about exemptions rather than certifications.
I have attempted to contact Butterball by phone but only get voice mailboxes. I'l keep trying.
Like I said:
"Fees must be paid to one of the certifying organisations for this service. Islamic certifying organisations benefit financially from providing this service. They receive a constant stream of funds to support Islamic projects which contribute to the advancement of sharia (Islamic law) here and around the world."
This is BS and not accurate. Call it is - yes. But don;t make stuff up.
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