what size lead shot does it take to equal a hevi #7 just wondering
I have heard a #5 lead pellet
Quote from: 12 GAUGE on February 16, 2011, 10:26:27 PM
what size lead shot does it take to equal a hevi #7 just wondering
I don't know, but I can tell you that most of the 7's blew clean through the neck on the bird I shot at 45yds last spring with them. Some of the shots went through the breast and out the backside. All the lead loads I have shot from 4 to 6's never would come close to doing that at that distance.
Not sure but they penetrate like crazy. Last year I shot a gobbler at 42 yards with Hevi #7s and a few low flying pellets blew all the way through breast and exited the offside.
I killed one last year at 55 yards with 7's and i mean it tore his head up to me it sounds like alot of folks dont trust 7's past 40 to 45 yards but i can say with out a dout that they will kill one dead at 55 yards without a problem
Quote from: jtg88 on February 16, 2011, 10:47:08 PM
Not sure but they penetrate like crazy. Last year I shot a gobbler at 42 yards with Hevi #7s and a few low flying pellets blew all the way through breast and exited the offside.
Hey your results were like mine. :icon_thumright:
I laugh when people say they won't kill at 50yds. The bird I shot I would bet was closer to 50yds than it was 45yds. It tore him to shreads.
Check it out.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/medium/DSCF0066_Small_2_.jpg)
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/medium/DSCF0070_Small_2_.jpg)
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Here's where you can see a lot of shot hit him.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/DSCF0058_Medium_.jpg)
And here's the backside.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/medium/DSCF0069_Small_.jpg)
Now that ought to clear the air for those that think 7's will bounce off turkeys at 50yds.
And that was a 24lb gobbler killed on public ground. I shot him once he got into range where I knew I could kill him. I have never hit one harder at that range I can tell you that. Those 7's are devastating to say the least.
And that was with my MAD Super Max .675 choke that is still working great and yet to cause me a problem. :icon_thumright: It will shoot these loads better than any choke I have found in the 870. I honestly think it's a 60yd gun with this choke and load.
thats what i'm talkin about thats some nice pics you got there them things blew right through him and they had to go through feathers and everything if they go through the body part of the turkey that well after going through feathers and the whole body just imagine how easy they will go through his head
those pics should be a sticky for those that have doubt like i did, thanks for sharing :icon_thumright:
are you shooting 3 in or 3 1/2 in out of your 870 what kind of numbers are you getin
Quote from: 12 GAUGE on February 16, 2011, 11:20:40 PM
thats what i'm talkin about thats some nice pics you got there them things blew right through him and they had to go through feathers and everything if they go through the body part of the turkey that well after going through feathers and the whole body just imagine how easy they will go through his head
That's what I have been telling guys that try to tell me otherwise. Like I said I go off of live subjects and not gellatin mass. Seeing is believing! I am a believer and that is coming from someone who used to think 7's were too small. I was wrong. But at least I can admit it. And 7's will give you a lot denser patterns that 6's. It's a win win situation by shooting them.
well said :thanks:
And here's the 23 shot I dug out of the breast. Those 23 shot ought to prove right there alone that if they will penetrate the breast on a bird at 45-50yds that they will penetrate and kill.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/medium/DSCF00760_Small_.jpg)
But there is still going to be those doubters. It's kind of like you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. :z-paddy-smiley113:
Quote from: 12 GAUGE on February 16, 2011, 11:24:17 PM
are you shooting 3 in or 3 1/2 in out of your 870 what kind of numbers are you getin
Great question. And I got the answer. 3" Hevi-13 2oz #7 was what I was using. Let me show you what kind of pattern that combo put on that bird just so you know it didn't have a prayer.
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Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on February 16, 2011, 11:30:28 PM
But there is still going to be those doubters. It's kind of like you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. :z-paddy-smiley113:
Oh if you hold his head down long enough he will drink, just might be too much :whip2:
PREACH it Bro.....I've been singing the praises of the 7's since they came out & I too know EXACTLY how deadly they are :smiley-char092:
Quote from: knightrider on February 16, 2011, 11:23:27 PM
those pics should be a sticky for those that have doubt like i did, thanks for sharing :icon_thumright:
Now are you ready to make the switch to Hevi-13 #7's? All you have to do is find a choke that will shoot them which shouldn't be hard. They pattern better than any load I have tested. And that is in both of my guns.
You center a pattern sort of like that one I posted above on a turkeys head and neck and I got money to all takers that every single bird at 50yds will drop like a rock. It may flop but most birds do. That bird I shot flopped. But he was deader than dead before he hit the ground. You chop a chickens head off and see if it don't flop. :icon_thumright:
thats a nice pattern there
Quote from: drum817 on February 16, 2011, 11:38:06 PM
PREACH it Bro.....I've been singing the praises of the 7's since they came out & I too know EXACTLY how deadly they are :smiley-char092:
Thanks. I personally see no need to shoot 6's when you can get patterns like this and destruction that wreaks havoc to any gobbler that walks with the 7's.
no doubt about that he will hit the ground and will not get back up till you pick him up
Quote from: 12 GAUGE on February 16, 2011, 11:20:40 PM
thats what i'm talkin about thats some nice pics you got there them things blew right through him and they had to go through feathers and everything if they go through the body part of the turkey that well after going through feathers and the whole body just imagine how easy they will go through his head
Your exactly right. That birds neck was toast. :z-guntootsmiley:
Here's a few nicer pictures of that bird on how he would probably like to be remembered. :lol:
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/DSCF0039_Medium_.jpg)
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as long as they load um i will shoot um if i'm gonna put all the time that i do in the woods i want every advantage that i can get alot of folks say they dont shoot past 40 or so if i can set my gun up to where it is deadly at 60 yards than i am going to do so i would hate to know that i put all that time into hunting and when the time came the bird hung up at 55 yards and i could not shoot bacause my gun was not set up to shoot at 55 yards i just dont understand it
thats a nice bird if you dont mind me asking what state did you kill him in
I might add I could have waited for this bird to get closer for he stopped at probably about 52yds approx. He was behind a log. I made a few yelps on my mouth call and got him to hop up on the log and over it. I told myself once he clears that log I'm shooting. He probably would have came right on up to me. But when you hunt public ground, it only takes a second for another hunter to send this bird packing. That's why I shot because I knew 100% that he was mine.
MO
That probably was one of the best birds taken off that piece of public ground last spring. I had him weighed at the conservation office on a digital scale. The scale blinked back and forth from 23.98 to 24.07lbs. He said mark it at 24lbs.
almost the same thing happened to me but he only stuck his head up above the log and when he did i floged it for him with some 7's
I took a better picture just so you can see the 10" pattern and better visualize how that pattern made that bird feel. :icon_thumright:
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/DSCF00316.jpg)
PICTURES ARE WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!
A DOUBTING THOMAS NEED NOT LOOK ANY FURTHER TO SEE WHAT #7 HEVI-13'S WILL DO!
Quote from: bbcoach on February 17, 2011, 09:04:38 AM
PICTURES ARE WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!
A DOUBTING THOMAS NEED NOT LOOK ANY FURTHER TO SEE WHAT #7 HEVI-13'S WILL DO!
Hey thanks for the kind words. I hope this thread will help people realize why I recommend Hevi-13 #7's. Like I said the proof is in the turkey. That bird never had a chance to survive that pattern. Anyone that tells you Hevi-13 #7's lack the punch, you can pass this on to them.
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on February 17, 2011, 09:56:04 AM
Quote from: bbcoach on February 17, 2011, 09:04:38 AM
PICTURES ARE WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!
A DOUBTING THOMAS NEED NOT LOOK ANY FURTHER TO SEE WHAT #7 HEVI-13'S WILL DO!
Hey thanks for the kind words. I hope this thread will help people realize why I recommend Hevi-13 #7's. Like I said the proof is in the turkey. That bird never had a chance to survive that pattern. Anyone that tells you Hevi-13 #7's lack the punch, you can pass this on to them.
AMEN!!!!!
Come on guys, you all oughta know that hevi 7s just bounce off turkeys :D
Kind of reminds me of post on rifle forums where guys think you must use a solid copper bullet to kill a 120lb deer.
Quote from: Reloader on February 17, 2011, 12:48:45 PM
Come on guys, you all oughta know that hevi 7s just bounce off turkeys :D
Kind of reminds me of post on rifle forums where guys think you must use a solid copper bullet to kill a 120lb deer.
Yep. I like reading post where guys shoot a turkey with Hevi-13 loads and the turkey act like he was never even hit. Come on now. The guy couldn't possibly have missed now could he. Or maybe he never even took the time to pattern his gun or to pick the right choke. I just laugh. :z-paddy-smiley113:
YEP, hevi 13 6 shot is what i shoot and the reason i dont shoot 7's is because the store i go to never has them but i guess i could order them online.But 6's are deadly at that range to.
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on February 16, 2011, 11:34:20 PM
Quote from: 12 GAUGE on February 16, 2011, 11:24:17 PM
are you shooting 3 in or 3 1/2 in out of your 870 what kind of numbers are you getin
Great question. And I got the answer. 3" Hevi-13 2oz #7 was what I was using. Let me show you what kind of pattern that combo put on that bird just so you know it didn't have a prayer.
The only problem I have with them is the velocity, I hunt alot in below 32 degree weather and the POI changes a lot from 50 degree's to below 32. This I experience with #6 so the 7's would be even more.
Thats why I changed to Magnum Blend, a lot more energy and not as much drop.