Having been on the road for the better part of the year I've been so far behind that I haven't been able to catch up on old projects. I'm finally getting caught up and was able to finish this instructional video that we started last year.
This video is specifically aimed (no pun intended) at the Remington 870, 1187, and 1100 users. The mounting process for these guns are the same but are the more difficult ones to mount properly especially if you have a synthetic stock. I mounted one on my wood stocked 870 and didn't have to make any mods to the stock at all. YMMV but for the most part you will have to make some mods.
If you have any questions please just post here.
Oh and no that's not me in the video. That's Josh the tech support supervisor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WDGEio5lZQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WDGEio5lZQ)
Good video! A Dremel is definitely the ticket for an easy installation.
Burris is there a reason no SpeedBead mounting plate has been offered for Mossbergs?
We're just waiting for Mossberg to move that safety off of the back strap. :-\
AAAHHHH! Now I fully understand. Thank you for enlightening me. That makes total sense.
No problem. I get that question a lot along with "why can't I use one on my over/under?" Again, it's the same deal. Even if you could break the action how would you load it? ;D
I'm using the Marlin mount on my main turkey gun which is a 835 so I'm right there with you. We have some other ideas in the works though so be patient. No promises but you never know what the future (and smart engineers) might bring.
I like safety's up there but I'm a lefty..and my BPS has it the same way...LOVE IT TOO!
Not sure I fully understand what the relief cuts are needed for?? How extensive is the mounting process? I want to place an order with Gob74 here today but want to make sure I am getting something that is right for me.
It's more like indentions than cuts. The prongs on the SpeedBead mount bend in toward the part of your stock that slides into the receiver. The indentions/cuts are made to allow for a better fit between the stock, mount, and receiver. The video does a good job of illustrating this but I think the term "cuts" my be a little misleading to some.
Remember, the SpeedBead type mount is the only type that requires this slight modification.
Quote from: traphunter on February 22, 2011, 12:17:22 PM
Not sure I fully understand what the relief cuts are needed for?? How extensive is the mounting process? I want to place an order with Gob74 here today but want to make sure I am getting something that is right for me.
The mounting process is pretty simple if you are at all mechanically inclined. If you can't take a ball point pen apart and reassemble then let someone else do it for you. The cuts we are talking about are just small areas where the prongs will need to go. When you have the mount in your hand you will see what we are talking about. This is all very easy to do.
Quote from: JBIRD22 on February 22, 2011, 12:34:19 PM
Remember, the SpeedBead type mount is the only type that requires this slight modification.
And only the Remingtons at that.
Will the SpeedBead fit on a 20ga 1187 as well. If now, are there plans for making one?
Quote from: randlet on March 04, 2011, 11:12:56 PM
Will the SpeedBead fit on a 20ga 1187 as well. If now, are there plans for making one?
No and no. Sorry.
ok, here's one for you :) .
I received a SpeedBead and installed it .... Dremel tool cut-outs and all. Fits fine.
Butttttt ....... my red dot is too high...right at the top of the window. OK, just tighten the wedge screw, right?> Wrong... This is one of the new ones with the adjustments (?) on the back of the mount, not on the base of the mount itself. Still, ok, got that figured out, except there aren't any screws or such inside the adjustment holes to hold the wedge screw in any kind of adjustable position. The wedge screw moves up and down if I put an allen wrench or screwdriver into the holes in the back of the mount, but there's nothing to hold it once it's raised. Basically, the wedge screw has nothing to hold it in an adjusted position.
What's the fix ???????????
Thanks, Dennis
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....... my red dot is too high...right at the top of the window.
? I don't understand. Maybe you need to use a riser or 2? I'm not real sure what you mean exactly. Although the dot will remain on the POI it will move within the window depending on where your eye is in relationship to the glass. I guess you need to either move your head or adjust your cheek weld? I'm not completely sure.
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OK, just tighten the wedge screw, right?> Wrong... This is one of the new ones with the adjustments (?) on the back of the mount, not on the base of the mount itself.
Again, I don't understand. All of the mounts have 2 holes in the back. All of them have a wedge screw adjustment on the top of the base. NONE of our mounts have adjustment screws in the back. Those 2 holes are used to insert mounting pins that hold the mount plate to the mounting base. Whatever it is you think you might be doing by inserting an allen wrench in there you aren't doing. There are pins in there not screws.
QuoteStill, ok, got that figured out, except there aren't any screws or such inside the adjustment holes to hold the wedge screw in any kind of adjustable position.
See above.
QuoteThe wedge screw moves up and down if I put an allen wrench or screwdriver into the holes in the back of the mount, but there's nothing to hold it once it's raised. Basically, the wedge screw has nothing to hold it in an adjusted position.
It's working as it was intended. There isn't a set screw or anything to lock the wedge screw. Tighten the wedge screw and it will not back out.
QuoteWhat's the fix ???????????
It sounds to me like your sight and mount are working as they were intended. Tighten your wedge screw and add a riser or 2 and you should be done. If I'm wrong then let me know and I'll help you out.
This is a very simple installation so try not to make it difficult. Follow the directions in the video and you'll be able mount the sight without any issues. Please don't create additional steps in the process.
Please see PM :) . Per Josh, I have a defective mount.
Not so fast. What Josh described didn't make any sense and the pictures I have make even less. Let's figure this out for sure before we decide its a mount problem.
I installed a Speed Bead on my SBE1 without any risers and after sighting it in, the red dot is just above my factory front bead. Do you recommend installing risers to raise the red dot???
That's how I do it but it's completely up to you. I like having it above the front bead just in case I feel the need to aim high I can still see the target with some holdover.
Yep, it's a user error :).
The low riser was on the mount itself and I didn't know it was on there. I was able to finally pry it off and voila ! there's the adjusting screw.
I'm all set now, and looking forward to using it. Thanks for your and Josh's input.
Dennis
Quote from: PostDriver on March 21, 2011, 03:12:37 PM
Yep, it's a user error :).
The low riser was on the mount itself and I didn't know it was on there. I was able to finally pry it off and voila ! there's the adjusting screw.
I'm all set now, and looking forward to using it. Thanks for your and Josh's input.
Dennis
OK that makes sense now. Sounds like you are good to go. :icon_thumright:
The Speed Bead that I mounted on my SBE1 does not have the light sensor hole on the front of the unit and the red dot is not as bright as the one on my brother's Stoeger 2000, which has the light sensor hole. Is this something that was added to them later???
They should all have the light sensor hole. Without it there shouldn't be a dot at all. This would be the first time I've heard of such a problem.
PM is the best way to deal with customer service issues. Drop me a message if you want to see about getting a replacement. We'll get you taken care of.
Quote from: BurrisOptics on March 22, 2011, 10:10:19 AM
They should all have the light sensor hole. Without it there shouldn't be a dot at all. This would be the first time I've heard of such a problem.
PM is the best way to deal with customer service issues. Drop me a message if you want to see about getting a replacement. We'll get you taken care of.
PM sent. Thanks.
Pretty sweet setup.
Hi im not really not sure of difference between speedbead and fast fire besides mount any info would
be helpful
thanks
So, I did the installation, used the adhesive buffer foam to absorb shock between the stock and the mount, however, the mount is no longer level. In fact, the mount and FFIII are pointing below the bead, even with the elevation adjusted to the maximum(which is never recommended). Any suggestions?
Quote from: Rev579 on February 21, 2013, 05:38:50 PM
So, I did the installation, used the adhesive buffer foam to absorb shock between the stock and the mount, however, the mount is no longer level. In fact, the mount and FFIII are pointing below the bead, even with the elevation adjusted to the maximum(which is never recommended). Any suggestions?
Hmm not really. I'm struggling to picture it so is it possible for you to post a picture of what it looks like right now? That might help quite a bit.
Great video, thanks for sharing, just wish I had seen it before now. My question is are the four "indentions" a requirement? If so, why is there no mention of them in this online PDF? http://www.burrisoptics.com/pdf/speedbead_remington.pdf
I mounted a Speedbead on my synthetic 870 this past weekend following the instructions above, but I did not use a Dremel to make the four indentions because there was no mention of it in the instructions provided to my knowledge. This video is the first mention I have heard of the indentions.
My mount seems to be solid, but it may not be as flush as it could be with the indentions. Do I need to break my gun back down and remount it with the indentions completed?
Please advise.
No it's not a requirement. If your mount is on there solid and you are happy with the slight gap then you are good to go. If you want to get rid of the gap, assuming there is one, then you can break it down and make the notches if you'd like. It's really up to you.
Good deal, thanks a million. I checked my mount last night and the slight gap was not even noticeable, at least not to my eyes. Thanks again for your advice, I sincerely appreciate it.
Will the SpeedBead fit on a Remington 870 .410?