Just wanted to see how every is sighting in their red dots for turkey season. I read on here a lot of guys saying they dont shoot of the sleds to sight in bc the sleds will hit different then shooting off your knee. Is that cause your moving more and are not as steady on your knee? I always thought youd want to be as steady as possible when sighting in so shooting off a sled or even a shooting bag was the best way to do it? For those that say s;ed shooting hits differently is it a huge change? Or is it an inch or two off?
I have done it both ways and have never noticed a difference. It is the same with my deer rifles. Just my experience.
Done both and I haven't noticed a difference
Ok thats what I had thought. I have sighted in dozen of rifles with a sled and never saw an issue. I just got worried when I saw people on here saying otherwise.
I would much rather have my red dot sighted in using a steady reliable base. That way I know that I am responsible for any aiming variations in the field.
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Quote from: TooTallOutdoorss on Today at 09:57:56 AMJust wanted to see how every is sighting in their red dots for turkey season. I read on here a lot of guys saying they dont shoot of the sleds to sight in bc the sleds will hit different then shooting off your knee. Is that cause your moving more and are not as steady on your knee? I always thought youd want to be as steady as possible when sighting in so shooting off a sled or even a shooting bag was the best way to do it? For those that say s;ed shooting hits differently is it a huge change? Or is it an inch or two off?
I sighted mine in and patterned it with a lead sled and then shot it off my knees and had to re sight it. It changed my point of impact for me. So i would at least shoot it with out it if you do use a lead sled.
Quote from: FullChoke on Today at 12:13:15 PMI would much rather have my red dot sighted in using a steady reliable base. That way I know that I am responsible for any aiming variations in the field.
This.
I sight in off sandbags then shoot off my knee sitting in my turkey chair. More often than not I have to do "minor" adjustments. Also, I found out that when I sight in at 16yds with Federal low brass 7/8oz #7.5 shot 1210fps in my 20 gauges my 3" turkey loads hit spot on at 40yds. That's with 21" and 22" barrels.
Quote from: FullChoke on Today at 12:13:15 PMI would much rather have my red dot sighted in using a steady reliable base. That way I know that I am responsible for any aiming variations in the field.
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Same here. Id rather know the gun is dialed and It was my fault then have a gun not dialed.
Quote from: TMeering on Today at 12:50:49 PMQuote from: TooTallOutdoorss on Today at 09:57:56 AMJust wanted to see how every is sighting in their red dots for turkey season. I read on here a lot of guys saying they dont shoot of the sleds to sight in bc the sleds will hit different then shooting off your knee. Is that cause your moving more and are not as steady on your knee? I always thought youd want to be as steady as possible when sighting in so shooting off a sled or even a shooting bag was the best way to do it? For those that say s;ed shooting hits differently is it a huge change? Or is it an inch or two off?
I sighted mine in and patterned it with a lead sled and then shot it off my knees and had to re sight it. It changed my point of impact for me. So i would at least shoot it with out it if you do use a lead sled.
Not in any aggressive or demeaning way and just out of curiosity how is that possible? Could it be your moving and not as steady as you think you are and shooting off the knee is exposing it? A sled is as sturdy as can be I cant comprehend how it shoots differently.
Quote from: sswv on Today at 02:25:06 PMI sight in off sandbags then shoot off my knee sitting in my turkey chair. More often than not I have to do "minor" adjustments. Also, I found out that when I sight in at 16yds with Federal low brass 7/8oz #7.5 shot 1210fps in my 20 gauges my 3" turkey loads hit spot on at 40yds. That's with 21" and 22" barrels.
Do you know why at all? It seems like your not as stable as you were with the sandbag and that could be it? I always thought a lead sled was designed to keep you still and take out any human error when sighting in a shot?
I've never missed a turkey because of using a sled with sighting my gun - red dot / scope... Now wait, I can NOW blame the sled for my misses.. Great Idea ... everyone ...
It all has to do with how you get your cheek down on the stock . site picture ... IMO
I use a sled to sight in all 4guns in my house every year. 4 different makes and models. 3 different brand sights. Never had an issue.
Quote from: TooTallOutdoorss on Today at 03:02:28 PMQuote from: TMeering on Today at 12:50:49 PMQuote from: TooTallOutdoorss on Today at 09:57:56 AMJust wanted to see how every is sighting in their red dots for turkey season. I read on here a lot of guys saying they dont shoot of the sleds to sight in bc the sleds will hit different then shooting off your knee. Is that cause your moving more and are not as steady on your knee? I always thought youd want to be as steady as possible when sighting in so shooting off a sled or even a shooting bag was the best way to do it? For those that say s;ed shooting hits differently is it a huge change? Or is it an inch or two off?
I sighted mine in and patterned it with a lead sled and then shot it off my knees and had to re sight it. It changed my point of impact for me. So i would at least shoot it with out it if you do use a lead sled.
Not in any aggressive or demeaning way and just out of curiosity how is that possible? Could it be your moving and not as steady as you think you are and shooting off the knee is exposing it? A sled is as sturdy as can be I cant comprehend how it shoots differently.
I'm not sure but it did. Could it be the way i shoot? Trigger pull, cheek to stock, the way the red dot aligns with my eye? Sure. With a lead sled it puts the sled between your shoulder and the butt if your gun enlarging your length of pull. It changed the way my cheek fit the stock and how close the red dot to my eye. I use the sled to get on the bullseye and then adjust to the way i shoot with out it which is what matters to me and im dead on everytime.
That's just not how Red Dots work.
You definitely toyed with the gun (Like cleaned it when the dot is on the stock) or made a bad correction on the dot.
Quote from: TooTallOutdoorss on Today at 03:03:43 PMQuote from: sswv on Today at 02:25:06 PMI sight in off sandbags then shoot off my knee sitting in my turkey chair. More often than not I have to do "minor" adjustments. Also, I found out that when I sight in at 16yds with Federal low brass 7/8oz #7.5 shot 1210fps in my 20 gauges my 3" turkey loads hit spot on at 40yds. That's with 21" and 22" barrels.
Do you know why at all? It seems like your not as stable as you were with the sandbag and that could be it? I always thought a lead sled was designed to keep you still and take out any human error when sighting in a shot?
only thing I can think of is I must hold the gun a little different? I shoot at turkeys sitting flat on my butt most often off my knee not off the bench with sandbags. however, if I do make any adjustments it is always very minimal. been working for me so far so I'm gonna keep doing it the way that has always worked.
I dont think a red dot such as a Fast Fire 3 cares how the cheek weld is. Some one can straighten me out on that if Im wrong. Ive used a sled for a long time and with good results.
Today I used my bags instead . Let me say my shoulder is not happy with that decision.
Quote from: ruination on Today at 03:54:13 PMThat's just not how Red Dots work.
You definitely toyed with the gun (Like cleaned it when the dot is on the stock) or made a bad correction on the dot.
gun was brand new with a fast fire 3...i don't care what gun it is or what sight it is if you hold it differently than the way you shoot it with a sled it will have a different point of impact... not looking to argue. This is my experience. Never understood how someone can ask for peoples experiences with a certain topic and have someone else tell you your wrong as if they've shot their gun or are that person.
I shoot mine out of a BOG tripod now, but used to use regular front and rear bags. I have never cared for a lead-sled when shooting anything. I want the gun to be against my shoulder as it will be when I'm hunting. That's my preference but to each his own.
Quote from: Greg Massey on Today at 03:22:18 PMI've never missed a turkey because of using a sled with sighting my gun
Now wait, I can NOW blame the sled for my misses.. Great Idea ... everyone ...
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I use bags always. 1st a field load. Then a good shell I've been doing it for a good bit like that now. I'm pretty good missing on my own now. I usually blame the sun in my eyes. I can't believe it'd be a sled or bags that would create a big difference..
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Quote from: TrackeySauresRex on Today at 04:27:14 PMQuote from: Greg Massey on Today at 03:22:18 PMI've never missed a turkey because of using a sled with sighting my gun
Now wait, I can NOW blame the sled for my misses.. Great Idea ... everyone ...
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I use bags always. 1st a field load. Then a good shell I've been doing it for a good bit like that now. I'm pretty good missing on my own now. I usually blame the sun in my eyes. I can't believe it'd be a sled or bags that would create a big difference..
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