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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Guns => Topic started by: SCGobblaGetta on June 23, 2025, 11:41:22 AM

Title: Mossberg vs. Pinhoti with TSS
Post by: SCGobblaGetta on June 23, 2025, 11:41:22 AM
Today while reading some threads ran across a situation where an individual had a Mossberg choke tube break using TSS.  I sent Mossberg a message asking if their XFull choke that came with my 500 is TSS rated.  Response from Mossberg "Good morning, the choke is going to be for lead only. If you want to shoot TSS, I would recommend a choke rated for the shot through Indian Creek, Tru Lock, etc." ....well, I happen to have a Pinhoti choke tube. So, while changing them out I notice that the Mossberg X-Factor choke is noticeably heavier than the Pinhoti tube. Not breaking out the calipers or anything, but the walls look to be the same thickness. The end of the Mossberg choke is w/o a doubt thicker than the Pinhoti, yet Mossberg recommends aftermarket. I have an Indian Creek in my single-shot and performance is top notch. Just don't understand why Mossberg would not reccomend TSS with their choke when it appears for all tense and purpose more substantial than the Tru Lock choke.  Thoughts/opinions?
Title: Re: Mossberg vs. Pinhoti with TSS
Post by: Tom007 on June 23, 2025, 01:17:02 PM
Sounds like a "CYA" scenario. Mossberg seems to be dodging recommending TSS out of their chokes. Just an observation here, good luck with your set-up....
Title: Re: Mossberg vs. Pinhoti with TSS
Post by: Bowguy on June 24, 2025, 01:02:58 AM
I've got a 500 and wasn't clear about using tss with that gun so I called Mossberg. They were clear that if that particular gun (turkey model) didn't have lead only on the choke I was good.
Well the choke did break and when calling Mossberg back was told I can't use tss with the factory choke. Another guy from Mossberg after inquiring bout another barrel said I shouldn't use tss even with a full factory choke or any factory choke. Was also told the factory barrels in 20 ga don't come 26". I than looked and saw one and ordered it. Customer service is awful there.
Regarding the original barrel and choke they said they'd replace it since I was completely agitated about what they were telling me. Been 7 weeks and I've called twice sent 3 follow up emails. They told me 2 weeks. Still the answer is they'll follow up with me when it ships. They need to get better customer service people. I'd advise everything be sent email so there are "paper trails" to follow up with
Title: Re: Mossberg vs. Pinhoti with TSS
Post by: Greg Massey on June 24, 2025, 01:16:54 AM
Quote from: SCGobblaGetta on June 23, 2025, 11:41:22 AMToday while reading some threads ran across a situation where an individual had a Mossberg choke tube break using TSS.  I sent Mossberg a message asking if their XFull choke that came with my 500 is TSS rated.  Response from Mossberg "Good morning, the choke is going to be for lead only. If you want to shoot TSS, I would recommend a choke rated for the shot through Indian Creek, Tru Lock, etc." ....well, I happen to have a Pinhoti choke tube. So, while changing them out I notice that the Mossberg X-Factor choke is noticeably heavier than the Pinhoti tube. Not breaking out the calipers or anything, but the walls look to be the same thickness. The end of the Mossberg choke is w/o a doubt thicker than the Pinhoti, yet Mossberg recommends aftermarket. I have an Indian Creek in my single-shot and performance is top notch. Just don't understand why Mossberg would not reccomend TSS with their choke when it appears for all tense and purpose more substantial than the Tru Lock choke.  Thoughts/opinions?

Could be a difference in the steel rating that was used in making the chokes ...
Title: Re: Mossberg vs. Pinhoti with TSS
Post by: Bowguy on June 24, 2025, 01:21:39 AM
To answer your question more directly. Metal has dif strengths and weaknesses. It can also be subject to being brittle for instance. Metal the same thickness isn't the same. What drives me crazy is the incompetent answers and simply that most guys are buying sub gauges for tss. Why isnt that choke compatible w tss on a turkey model?
Another thing is if buy a red dot compatible model and decide not to use red dot you've got a gun with a hole on top of receiver. I wasn't using red dot so didn't go that route but if it follows a footprint who is to say 20 years out something dif didn't come along or that red dot/footprint isn't obsolete? What do you do than? Deal with a notched receiver where the red dot was? Why don't they throw filler plate in box or offer any for sale