I figured some of you guys might want in, I bought 2 cases & used the 8/10 blend this spring with great success. For that price you can't go wrong https://www.targetsportsusa.com/federal-heavyweight-tss-flightcontrol-flex-12-gauge-ammo-3-5-8-10-combo-2-1-2oz-ptssx195f810-p-108527.aspx
Wow, could nearly duck hunt with them for that price!
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Just check your state laws before you buy. #10 shot may not be legal. Z
Great price.
Florida doesn't care on small sizes. Probably going to stick with my decision to go back to lead in the 12. Any super deals on .410 TSS let us know.
And Federal has a rebate right now- $5 per box if you buy 2+ boxes.
This is unheard of in the TSS world. Looks as if most of the manufacturers and sellers are getting a 200% return on investment on this price point. I'll bet this load would really ROCK your world with a 3 1/2 inch 2 1/2 oz payload but it should put up some INCREDIBILE numbers!!!! Especially with 10's in the mix!!!
That will do more damage to your shoulder than the turkey's face.
If it were 8x9 I would buy all of it just for the shot, cheaper at that rate than raw shot.
I just have no interest in 10s.
Could cut open, harvest the shot and reload with steel fir waterfowl, would have to have the reload tested though!!!
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No interest in 10s? I'm waiting for someone to bring out TSS 12s with the usual "energy the same as lead #7. Enough is enough. 9 is plenty. Dense patterns look great on paper and posted on forums but almost a so what if the 🦃 is flopping in the field.
I noticed more shot hung up in the birds I shot with 9.5 compared to 9, so 10s with so many pellets and seeming to get a lot of fliers I would assume many more hung up in the meat.
10s sure look good on paper though and are probably a good call in .410
And I already aim at the head to minimize shot getting into the body!
I agree, Tempting for pulling the tss for reloading projects. Keep a few intact in case Bigfoot breaks in!
I'm mathing ~$30/lb. (Non member) After state tax and rebates...
I don't shoot enough and don't wanna go down that rabbit hole..
JT
Quote from: tad1 on May 25, 2025, 08:27:25 AMI agree, Tempting for pulling the tss for reloading projects. Keep a few intact in case Bigfoot breaks in!
I'm mathing ~$30/lb. (Non member) After state tax and rebates...
I don't shoot enough and don't wanna go down that rabbit hole..
JT
This is my point above. How can this company sell these shells at a 200% loss when you guys that reload are stating that you would buy them JUST to cut them open to salvage the shot? There is a disconnect here somewhere.
12ga 8x10 guys don't want most likely!
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I wonder what the effective range for the #10 shot in these loads is? Is it even over 50yds?
Does anybody have any direct experience with these loads? Certainly tempting, but there's a reason they've been on sale for a while.
50 yards a stretch for anything let alone 10s IMO. Hope to never again see a YouTube nitwit claiming a "clean miss" when a bird runs off after a 50 yard + shot. That bird is carrying some souviners.
I know there's some guys on here that know the numbers a lot better than I do, but I was wondering more on what the maximum range of retained energy on #10 TSS shot at 1000-1200fps needed to kill a bird would be? I think #9 is around +/-75yds so I'm thinking #10 would be 50-55ish?? I wish this was a straight #8 or #9 or a #8/9 duplex load. I'm nervous about the #10... open country where I hunt I don't get many under 35yd shots.
I killed one this year around 55 steps with it, straight up rolled him.. I'm not sponsored or anything by them so giving you straight up feedback with them.. I seen several die in the 45-50 yard range and we never had to chase any around trying to stomp their necks, I've always used federal 7x9's & honestly I feel like these shells are just as good for 1/3 of the price.. I ordered 2 cases for my my family & a couple buddies to shoot
Quote from: Dblevins on May 27, 2025, 02:33:11 PMI killed one this year around 55 steps with it, straight up rolled him.. I'm not sponsored or anything by them so giving you straight up feedback with them.. I seen several die in the 45-50 yard range and we never had to chase any around trying to stomp their necks, I've always used federal 7x9's & honestly I feel like these shells are just as good for 1/3 of the price.. I ordered 2 cases for my my family & a couple buddies to shoot
Thanks for the good feedback. If you would of told me 30 years ago we would be shooting #10 shot at turkeys I would have said your nuts!!
I've seen 54 yards for 10s, at 1100 fps they get 1.25 in gel at that distance!
Many TSS loads are a little below 1100 fps.
So a 50 yard cut off seems reasonable, those tiny little things penetrate!
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I gave in and bought a case. We'll see what they look like on paper and go from there.
They will look good. The 10's will make it look like a lot better of a load than it actually is
Many of you guys' SHOOT and TOOT TSS 9's as the GREATEST thing since Sliced Bread but as soon as #10 is brought up many go into defensive mode. What gives? IMHO, this round is way, way OVER THE HILL for killing turkeys unless we are talking SNIPING. No one needs a 2 1/2 oz load of anything to kill a bird at 40 yards and in. This round even at 1000FPS is going to jar your teeth out and send you to an orthopedic for shoulder replacement. Great price point and Great numbers on paper but definitely not needed for turkey hunting. :z-twocents:
Holding out for 12s.
You will wind up with a lot more 10s hung up in the meat than 9s!
I shot 9.5 when it was the only size available, great patterns and killed everything I shot at, but had more pellets hung up in the meat than ever before!
Like it or not 50 is the new 40 generally, and at 2.5 oz it's probably further!
10 is supposed to be good to 54 ish!
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Quote from: bbcoach on May 29, 2025, 07:27:36 AMMany of you guys' SHOOT and TOOT TSS 9's as the GREATEST thing since Sliced Bread but as soon as #10 is brought up many go into defensive mode. What gives? IMHO, this round is way, way OVER THE HILL for killing turkeys unless we are talking SNIPING. No one needs a 2 1/2 oz load of anything to kill a bird at 40 yards and in. This round even at 1000FPS is going to jar your teeth out and send you to an orthopedic for shoulder replacement. Great price point and Great numbers on paper but definitely not needed for turkey hunting. :z-twocents:
Dead is dead but I hunt a lot of pressured birds in open prairie country which more times than not involves 50yd+ shot opportunities. I shoot 3.5" 12ga and 10ga loads of TSS only as a means to reach out and kill them at these distances. If I hunted timber birds I would certainly change my setup.
Quote from: Dtrkyman on May 29, 2025, 08:06:43 AM10 is supposed to be good to 54 ish!
Thanks for the info!
Just out of curiosity, I did hear that Federal switched from their traditional "Heavyweight" 15.2g/cc to 18g/cc tungsten material in their shells, can anybody confirm this? If true, I wonder how a customer would know what type of shells (15 vs. 18) they have in any given box AND if the 8x10 loads that are the focus of this thread are of the 15 or 18 variety??
All of their TSS loads are 18, the old heavyweight no longer made was 15. Also #7 was the smallest shot size in the 15gcc loads!
~$28 a pound is wild. You can't buy 10 pounds direct from China for that price per pound.
If I owned a 3-1/2" gun I'd buy a case for creeping swamp woodies
But I don't, never jumped on that 3.5" bandwagon
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I would imagine the 8x10 blend didn't sell, they are dumping it. If I toted a 12ga I would buy a pile of it!