Went to Bass Pro looking for the Herters 2 3/4" #9's and they were sold out but I couldn't pass these for $49/box. Didn't even try them in my primary rig yet (870 with Hevi-13 .662). Ran one shot through my old Mossberg 500 and an old Undertaker.665 and was pretty impressed for an "economy " TSS load.220 hits in the ten ring at 40. Nice core. Slid the other 4 shells in my vest, and propped the Mossberg in the corner of the kitchen. 😉