Can someone explain to me the difference in sound between the types of wood and also if the trumpet is made of acrylic/delrin? Thanks in advance.
I'm wanting to buy a trumpet and am considering the kt team mark prudhomme trumpet or going with a call maker that offers them made of wood.
For trumpets, I don't think there is much sound difference between woods. With plastics, maybe a little, but it's de minimis imo. Of course others will disagree.
Concern yourself more over the inside than the outside.
Quote from: paboxcall on April 08, 2025, 01:36:18 PMConcern yourself more over the inside than the outside.
Great advice...
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I have an acrylic and an Osage from the same maker. The all acrylic trumpet definitely has more pop with a higher pitch. It's not totally different in how it plays, but If say it's more 'lively' if you will. I enjoy playing both of them.
An acrylic trumpet, is lit as a feather ... Just don't drop it, it's very easy to break.. In both trumpets and pot calls I do feel you get a louder / pitch - sound / pop
I agree the builder of either makes a difference with the internals ... IMO
Quote from: Greg Massey on April 08, 2025, 06:20:47 PMAn acrylic trumpet, is lit as a feather ... Just don't drop it, it's very easy to break.. In both trumpets and pot calls I do feel you get a louder / pitch - sound / pop
I agree the builder of either makes a difference with the internals ... IMO
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To add to this, obviously acrylic is weatherproof, so you all take wooden trumpets in rainy weather?. Will it negatively affect them?.
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Quote from: ScottTaulbee on April 09, 2025, 09:14:25 AMTo add to this, obviously acrylic is weatherproof, so you all take wooden trumpets in rainy weather?. Will it negatively affect them?.
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I don't know about affecting them, but it sure does affect me .. Most of the time if it's raining I will take my Delrin 45 and 45 classic from Ralph Permar
Quote from: ScottTaulbee on April 09, 2025, 09:14:25 AMTo add to this, obviously acrylic is weatherproof, so you all take wooden trumpets in rainy weather?. Will it negatively affect them?.
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Yup, I do have one acrylic for just that purpose 👍
Renaissance Wax protects wood trumpets.
Here are 4 very similar in design Lumma trumpets, three with different woods and ivory and buffalo MPs. Green speckled acrylic is on the right. The three on the left sound pretty dead nuts identical. The acrylic does have a slight bit more pop or hollowness to its sound but is very similar to the wooden ones overall. So Steve's internals and design is consistent and so is his sound. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250410/94ab5eeed4e52935182d4d96b6738627.jpg)
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Quote from: davisd9 on April 09, 2025, 06:34:28 PMRenaissance Wax protects wood trumpets.
If I were to put the renaissance wax on my wood trumpet it would be ok to take out in rainy conditions without worry?.
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Quote from: ScottTaulbee on April 09, 2025, 09:45:56 PMQuote from: davisd9 on April 09, 2025, 06:34:28 PMRenaissance Wax protects wood trumpets.
If I were to put the renaissance wax on my wood trumpet it would be ok to take out in rainy conditions without worry?.
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My thoughts on this subject.....the wax may help protect the outside, but the inside of the barrel would still be subject to the moisture. With that being said, I have messed around with wetting the inside of trumpets to see if they were changed after wetting/drying cycles and really haven't noticed any "problems". I do however use CA for the exterior finish, as well as a CA soak coat for the interior as well. I do a final cleaning of the internals, but I am sure the CA remains just under the surface......so maybe this process skews the test I have run on wetting/drying cycles? I have a Genuine Lignum Vitae trumpet I use in the rain, that thing has so much oil in it I didn't even put finish on it....It still runs fine after getting wet.
wood and acrylic resonate differently. Acrylic is less apt to be affected by humidity/moisture. You won't notice it much in properly designed trumpets, but a wood box caller that doesn't have a sealed finish is a different story.
My question wasn't so much as if it would affect the sound so much as if it repeated use in rainy weather would affect the longevity of a wood call or if it would result in cracking/etc of the wood. Typically in the past I would leave the trumpet at home if it was calling for rain or raining but I've become so enamored with trumpets over the past year that I wouldn't dream of leaving it at home. During this youth season I carried only a trumpet and my mouth calls and didn't wear a vest for the first time and it was so much nicer and I didn't feel under equipped in the least. I'm just trying to get a feel for if I should leave the wood trumpets at home and get an acrylic or Delrin to carry on foul weather days.
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Quote from: ScottTaulbee on April 10, 2025, 10:10:53 PMMy question wasn't so much as if it would affect the sound so much as if it repeated use in rainy weather would affect the longevity of a wood call or if it would result in cracking/etc of the wood. Typically in the past I would leave the trumpet at home if it was calling for rain or raining but I've become so enamored with trumpets over the past year that I wouldn't dream of leaving it at home. During this youth season I carried only a trumpet and my mouth calls and didn't wear a vest for the first time and it was so much nicer and I didn't feel under equipped in the least. I'm just trying to get a feel for if I should leave the wood trumpets at home and get an acrylic or Delrin to carry on foul weather days.
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I personally wouldn't want to risk it with an expensive or
hard to replace trumpet. You might be ok with wax, you might not. Plus, think this through Scott, this gives you the perfect excuse to buy another turkey call, there's an urgent need :icon_thumright:
Quote from: ScottTaulbee on April 10, 2025, 10:10:53 PMMy question wasn't so much as if it would affect the sound so much as if it repeated use in rainy weather would affect the longevity of a wood call or if it would result in cracking/etc of the wood. Typically in the past I would leave the trumpet at home if it was calling for rain or raining but I've become so enamored with trumpets over the past year that I wouldn't dream of leaving it at home. During this youth season I carried only a trumpet and my mouth calls and didn't wear a vest for the first time and it was so much nicer and I didn't feel under equipped in the least. I'm just trying to get a feel for if I should leave the wood trumpets at home and get an acrylic or Delrin to carry on foul weather days.
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In my opinion, I wouldn't think a trumpet is the answer to not needing other calls in your bag of tricks. I have been using trumpets for a while and I can tell you from experience they don't always respond to trumpets. So in my opinion I will have other calls along with me beside trumpets .. I would feel under equipped if I didn't have those other calls .. IMO ,,, That wax is great on most all calls, but it's not recommended for acrylic ..
Quote from: Greg Massey on April 11, 2025, 06:18:21 AMQuote from: ScottTaulbee on April 10, 2025, 10:10:53 PMMy question wasn't so much as if it would affect the sound so much as if it repeated use in rainy weather would affect the longevity of a wood call or if it would result in cracking/etc of the wood. Typically in the past I would leave the trumpet at home if it was calling for rain or raining but I've become so enamored with trumpets over the past year that I wouldn't dream of leaving it at home. During this youth season I carried only a trumpet and my mouth calls and didn't wear a vest for the first time and it was so much nicer and I didn't feel under equipped in the least. I'm just trying to get a feel for if I should leave the wood trumpets at home and get an acrylic or Delrin to carry on foul weather days.
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In my opinion, I wouldn't think a trumpet is the answer to not needing other calls in your bag of tricks. I have been using trumpets for a while and I can tell you from experience they don't always respond to trumpets. So in my opinion I will have other calls along with me beside trumpets .. I would feel under equipped if I didn't have those other calls .. IMO ,,, That wax is great on most all calls, but it's not recommended for acrylic ..
97% of my turkeys that I've killed or called in for others have came from mouth calls since 2006. I had great responses with the trumpet all last weekend and last season as well. I used to always carry a box, and a couple pot calls but rarely ever had luck with them, I did kill 2 turkeys with pot calls over the years but they are the minority.
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Quote from: Greg Massey on April 11, 2025, 06:18:21 AMIn my opinion, I wouldn't think a trumpet is the answer to not needing other calls in your bag of tricks. I have been using trumpets for a while and I can tell you from experience they don't always respond to trumpets. So in my opinion I will have other calls along with me beside trumpets .. I would feel under equipped if I didn't have those other calls .. IMO ,,, That wax is great on most all calls, but it's not recommended for acrylic ..
Your milage may vary, but I feel "yelpers" have the best response (and kill rate) of any calls I use....and I use them all.
I've never left a call (yelper) at home because of weather. You can always keep it in one of those uline plastic tubes if it's really pouring, but I never bother.
My trumpet call stays around my neck and rides in my shirt pocket. If it is raining a little, I put on my rain jacket which keeps it protected. If it is raining a lot, I don't go. I wait till it stops and then I go out. My trumpets also get a coat of Renaissance every year.
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I don't know about affecting them, but it sure does affect me .. Most of the time if it's raining I will take my Delrin 45 and 45 classic from Ralph Permar
This. I wouldn't play my guitar in the rain. I'm not taking a trumpet that's harder to replace out in it.
Permar's delrin calls are excellent in any weather.
Quote from: EZ on April 13, 2025, 07:30:15 AMI've never left a call (yelper) at home because of weather.
Yeah, but you can just make more Tony! :TooFunny: