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Title: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: zelmo1 on September 20, 2024, 09:09:34 AM
I have seen more fall turkey hunters and pics on a local social media site. I'm wondering if there were less birds taken in the spring or just more hunters now. We have a set limit 0f 2 per year, 2 in the spring or 1/1 spring/fall. Any observations? Z
Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: greentrout on September 20, 2024, 10:04:15 AM
I have never noticed a big number of fall turkey hunters here in the western part of Tennessee. Most hunters are deer only this time of year thankfully.
Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: Greg Massey on September 20, 2024, 10:59:55 AM
No.. Less

Most are deer hunting
Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: Lcmacd 58 on September 20, 2024, 11:20:05 AM
Agree with the mostly deer hunters however I do know several deer hunters that get a fall archery turkey tag
But I can honestly say that fall hunting for turkeys exclusively is really low around where I live
Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: captpete on September 22, 2024, 07:44:48 AM
Same for around here...most are bowhunting deer. My buddy and I usually buy a tag just incase the opportunity arises while sitting in the stand.
Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: Kylongspur88 on September 22, 2024, 01:45:25 PM
Quote from: Old Swamper on September 22, 2024, 10:33:15 AMVery few "real" Turkey Hunters here in the South. Looking forward to having October Fall shotgun season all to myself.  Nothing more challenging and rewarding, than yelping up a Fall Longbeard ;)
Agree. I love the fall season but most "turkey hunters" I know really aren't into chasing fall birds. Honestly I'm fine with that.
Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: zelmo1 on September 23, 2024, 05:14:05 AM
The numbers arent crazy high around here either. Same story as everyone else. I figured most of the hunters around here were deer hunting. But, a couple of turkey hunters I have seen coming out of the woods and social media have given me a new outlook. More than a few locals posting pics of harvested fall birds. I think our population is not in jeopardy. Just a noticeable change. Z
Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: Will on September 23, 2024, 08:01:57 AM
I haven't seen a Fall turkey hunter the past few years where I hunt. Winter season is different due to other parts of the state being open to hunting. The guys I know that Spring hunt are not interested in any other turkey season.
Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: eggshell on September 23, 2024, 10:47:57 AM
Less here and I like it that way. I typically hunt areas I would not even approach in the spring. I like fall equally to spring
Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: Tom007 on September 23, 2024, 12:05:45 PM
Amen. Can't wait till our Fall season starts. There will be no one where I'm going. I'm gonna put a good effort into a Fall Longbeard...
Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: YoungGobbler on September 25, 2024, 05:54:40 AM
Not very popular around here either and let's keep it that way... Looking forward to this short season.
Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: eggshell on September 25, 2024, 08:26:19 AM
Our season opens October 1st and I will be ready. Saw two groups of birds yesterday evening.
Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: GobbleNut on September 25, 2024, 09:27:00 AM
For those that are serious fall/winter turkey hunters, I wish you well. For most western hunters, fall/winter turkey hunting in these parts takes a back seat to other hunting pursuits, I think. We just have too many other game species that are a distraction. 

I, personally, do not know a single person that hunts fall turkeys here other than a few that buy a license because they will be in the woods hunting something else. I would bet the great majority of turkeys killed in the fall here are shot due to casual encounters of hunters who run into them while hunting other species.  Nothing wrong with that, I suppose, but I hate to see our turkeys killed as a "consolation prize" for somebody who only is pulling that trigger as an "afterthought" because they happened to run into a flock while pursuing something else.

As a "trained" wildlife biologist, I do have certain concerns about either-sex fall turkey hunting from a management standpoint...specifically in places where turkey populations are declining or depressed. Again, referring to the situation here, I (unfortunately) believe that too many of our casual fall turkey hunters have the tendency to try to pick out the "big bird" in a fall flock...which often can be that adult hen who has demonstrated an ability to successfully nest and raise poults to adulthood. In declining populations, I don't think that tendency bodes well for turkey populations anywhere that they may be struggling. 

Now, I also suspect my concern about the above has limited application in healthy turkey populations...but I am just as certain that, in some situations, the harvest of adult hens in fall seasons can be a very real problem. 

I suppose the moral of my story is this:  If you are a turkey hunter in the fall and run into a flock of hens and young of the year birds, shoot one of those young birds and leave those adult hens...who have demonstrated that ability to be successful mothers...alone.  :icon_thumright:

Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: King Cobra on September 25, 2024, 10:57:19 AM
I would say it's about the same, no more, no less.
Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: greentrout on September 25, 2024, 01:17:38 PM
We had a big rain early yesterday and I went out over my lunch. Happy to see some fresh sign! Ready for mid-October!
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Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: Dougas on September 26, 2024, 11:12:47 PM
My season started the first of September and goes to the end of January. Daily and season bag limit Of 2 either sex. I haven't been out yet, but I am going out this Saturday. I have seen some toms in the area recently. I can also purchase 3 beardless permits good for three birds each for a total of 9 beardless turkeys for the bag limit that runs from November 1st to the end of February if I wanted to.
Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: Kylongspur88 on September 27, 2024, 07:38:27 AM
Quote from: GobbleNut on September 25, 2024, 09:27:00 AMFor those that are serious fall/winter turkey hunters, I wish you well. For most western hunters, fall/winter turkey hunting in these parts takes a back seat to other hunting pursuits, I think. We just have too many other game species that are a distraction. 

I, personally, do not know a single person that hunts fall turkeys here other than a few that buy a license because they will be in the woods hunting something else. I would bet the great majority of turkeys killed in the fall here are shot due to casual encounters of hunters who run into them while hunting other species.  Nothing wrong with that, I suppose, but I hate to see our turkeys killed as a "consolation prize" for somebody who only is pulling that trigger as an "afterthought" because they happened to run into a flock while pursuing something else.

As a "trained" wildlife biologist, I do have certain concerns about either-sex fall turkey hunting from a management standpoint...specifically in places where turkey populations are declining or depressed. Again, referring to the situation here, I (unfortunately) believe that too many of our casual fall turkey hunters have the tendency to try to pick out the "big bird" in a fall flock...which often can be that adult hen who has demonstrated an ability to successfully nest and raise poults to adulthood. In declining populations, I don't think that tendency bodes well for turkey populations anywhere that they may be struggling. 

Now, I also suspect my concern about the above has limited application in healthy turkey populations...but I am just as certain that, in some situations, the harvest of adult hens in fall seasons can be a very real problem. 

I suppose the moral of my story is this:  If you are a turkey hunter in the fall and run into a flock of hens and young of the year birds, shoot one of those young birds and leave those adult hens...who have demonstrated that ability to be successful mothers...alone.  :icon_thumright:



Years and years ago I'd kill the occasional fall hen but not anymore. I'm not going to tell others how to hunt but knowing what I know now about how turkeys breed and how quickly populations can tank in any given area I'm just not going to do it
Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: Yoder409 on September 27, 2024, 08:07:18 AM
Don't think there are any more fall hunters here than there ever were....which is very few.

A few guys here actually TARGET turkeys in the fall.  Most that get tagged were targets of opportunity by somebody hunting something else.
Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: Dougas on September 28, 2024, 09:25:15 PM
I tagged out on toms today. The first one weighed 19.6 pounds with a beard of just under 8" and 3/4" spurs. The second one weighed 18.3 pounds with a beard just under 7" and 3/4" spurs. Bothe are smoke gray toms.
Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: 1iagobblergetter on September 28, 2024, 10:50:46 PM
Not hardly any true fall turkey hunters around me!It doesn't bother me either! ;D
Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: Dtrkyman on October 01, 2024, 10:52:30 AM
I may give the fall hunt a go this year?  Would be tom's only for me.  If I go I am venturing into new ground and staying away from my spring spots, so maybe I can expand my spring areas finding birds in new country.
Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: YoungGobbler on October 01, 2024, 12:15:08 PM
Quote from: GobbleNut on September 25, 2024, 09:27:00 AMFor those that are serious fall/winter turkey hunters, I wish you well. For most western hunters, fall/winter turkey hunting in these parts takes a back seat to other hunting pursuits, I think. We just have too many other game species that are a distraction. 

I, personally, do not know a single person that hunts fall turkeys here other than a few that buy a license because they will be in the woods hunting something else. I would bet the great majority of turkeys killed in the fall here are shot due to casual encounters of hunters who run into them while hunting other species.  Nothing wrong with that, I suppose, but I hate to see our turkeys killed as a "consolation prize" for somebody who only is pulling that trigger as an "afterthought" because they happened to run into a flock while pursuing something else.

As a "trained" wildlife biologist, I do have certain concerns about either-sex fall turkey hunting from a management standpoint...specifically in places where turkey populations are declining or depressed. Again, referring to the situation here, I (unfortunately) believe that too many of our casual fall turkey hunters have the tendency to try to pick out the "big bird" in a fall flock...which often can be that adult hen who has demonstrated an ability to successfully nest and raise poults to adulthood. In declining populations, I don't think that tendency bodes well for turkey populations anywhere that they may be struggling. 

Now, I also suspect my concern about the above has limited application in healthy turkey populations...but I am just as certain that, in some situations, the harvest of adult hens in fall seasons can be a very real problem. 

I suppose the moral of my story is this:  If you are a turkey hunter in the fall and run into a flock of hens and young of the year birds, shoot one of those young birds and leave those adult hens...who have demonstrated that ability to be successful mothers...alone.  :icon_thumright:


That's some interesting perspectives. And it's absolutely true...
Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: zelmo1 on October 17, 2024, 09:05:46 AM
The Maine fall limit of 5 birds is attracting a few local hunters. I hope it doesn't implode on them. I have seen a huge uptick from previous years. They should learn from overharvesting in other states.  :OGturkeyhead:  Z
Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: eggshell on October 17, 2024, 12:19:05 PM
My buddy and I been hunting for two weeks and have not seen a single fall turkey hunter. We have hunted mostly state land too. We're both tagged out now so I won't know what else may happen. Heading to KY a week from Saturday.
Title: Re: Are you seeing more fall hunters?
Post by: zelmo1 on October 21, 2024, 07:18:31 AM
I got my facebook stalker, wife, to check out a few posts that I wasn't familiar with the OP. Not surprisingly that most of the recent posters didn't tag many birds in the spring. But they are tagging a fair few birds in the fall. The fall limit is 5 and you can shoot hens. Sad to say that lots of pics are of hens. I just get a baaaaad feeling about this. The number of posters/pics are way up from the last few years. I don't know if there are enough to make an impact, just hate seeing pics of dead 9 pound hens.  I'm not against fall hunting, just the bag limit and shooting hens.  :OGturkeyhead:  Z