It's about time!
Also illegal to shoot Jakes!
Two laws that actually make sense(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240721/000e4094b88807a8c2bb49f2846f10a0.jpg)
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All for reaping but should ban full fan decoys. No jakes will make no difference
Quote from: davisd9 on July 21, 2024, 10:54:06 AMAll for reaping but should ban full fan decoys. No jakes will make no difference
We have to agree to disagree on jakes...
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YOUTH DAY 17 years old and younger March 29-30 and May 10 - 11th I'm sorry I do not agree with the Youth Day where 'No license or tags are required for the youth nor the adult.
A youth 17 years old and younger who does not have his or her hunter education program has to be accompanied by an adult. I'm sorry I would think the adult should have to buy a license.
So the way I read that and correct me if I'm wrong is any Youth 17 and younger who has completed his or her hunter education program can go turkey hunting by themselves without an adult and without a license!
I'm sorry but if you and your father are hunting one or both should buy a license and most certainly if you are going out on your own you should buy a license!
The bigger issue is who in their right mind thinks a 13 to 15 or 16 year old is responsible enough to be out hunting on their own with no supervision!
Quote from: Turkeybutt on July 21, 2024, 12:52:30 PMYOUTH DAY 17 years old and younger March 29-30 and May 10 - 11th I'm sorry I do not agree with the Youth Day where 'No license or tags are required for the youth nor the adult.
A youth 17 years old and younger who does not have his or her hunter education program has to be accompanied by an adult. I'm sorry I would think the adult should have to buy a license.
So the way I read that and correct me if I'm wrong is any Youth 17 and younger who has completed his or her hunter education program can go turkey hunting by themselves without an adult and without a license!
I'm sorry but if you and your father are hunting one or both should buy a license and most certainly if you are going out on your own you should buy a license!
The bigger issue is who in their right mind thinks a 13 to 15 or 16 year old is responsible enough to be out hunting on their own with no supervision!
My friends and I all hunted from 13 to 14 on up alone. We were taught safety at a young age and there was never any issues. The no license/tags is for hunter recruitment. It is a time which you can do it to try without the investment, not a bad thing. We have deer hunting days as well.
Quote from: outdoornut on July 21, 2024, 11:11:18 AMQuote from: davisd9 on July 21, 2024, 10:54:06 AMAll for reaping but should ban full fan decoys. No jakes will make no difference
We have to agree to disagree on jakes...
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According to SCDNR harvest reports, only 6% of harvest were jakes this year. Out of 10,000 turkeys harvested, only around 500 were jakes. You will not see any improvement. Same thing for dropping a tag from three to two, only 7% of hunters killed three birds. You will not see a difference, one of those let's do something for optics and not for real impact
X2 davisd9 on the youth hunting, it's mostly about the maturity level of the child,knowing your kids and the area they are hunting
Quote from: Turkeybutt on July 21, 2024, 12:52:30 PMYOUTH DAY 17 years old and younger March 29-30 and May 10 - 11th I'm sorry I do not agree with the Youth Day where 'No license or tags are required for the youth nor the adult.
A youth 17 years old and younger who does not have his or her hunter education program has to be accompanied by an adult. I'm sorry I would think the adult should have to buy a license.
So the way I read that and correct me if I'm wrong is any Youth 17 and younger who has completed his or her hunter education program can go turkey hunting by themselves without an adult and without a license!
I'm sorry but if you and your father are hunting one or both should buy a license and most certainly if you are going out on your own you should buy a license!
The bigger issue is who in their right mind thinks a 13 to 15 or 16 year old is responsible enough to be out hunting on their own with no supervision!
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The bigger issue is who in their right mind thinks a 13 to 15 or 16 year old is responsible enough to be out hunting on their own with no supervision!
Me!!! I let mine go from about 12. I did the same as a kid. If they are taught what to do it's not rocket science. Heck at 16 they got a vehicle and hit the road. I'm pretty sure that is way more dangerous.
We all know kids and when they get together with their buddies and start to play around something always happens. Now toss in loaded shotguns and unsupervised kids in the woods and I think we have a bad situation waiting to happen.
Just my 2 cents!
Quote from: Turkeybutt on July 21, 2024, 03:36:21 PMWe all know kids and when they get together with their buddies and start to play around something always happens. Now toss in loaded shotguns and unsupervised kids in the woods and I think we have a bad situation waiting to happen.
Just my 2 cents!
Well, I was taught what was to be respected. My daddy trusted me and taught me that guns will kill. Playing with one never crossed my mind. I knew what they were capable of and was taught that. Guess it depends on how you raise your kids and what you allow.
I wouldn't ban shooting Jakes because of kids and newbies but it doesn't bother me too much. Reaping/fanning is for complete losers and has no place in turkey hunting, period.
So I do applaud SC, I hope more states follow suit.
This is one trend I actually hope catches on. I personally know many "turkey hunters" that routinely fill both tags and would be very lucky to kill a bird every couple of years if it wasn't for reaping
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A six inch beard is a Jake?
Seems it'd be pretty had to differentiate between 5" and 7" at 30-40 yds.
Quote from: Turkeybutt on July 21, 2024, 12:52:30 PMYOUTH DAY 17 years old and younger March 29-30 and May 10 - 11th I'm sorry I do not agree with the Youth Day where 'No license or tags are required for the youth nor the adult.
A youth 17 years old and younger who does not have his or her hunter education program has to be accompanied by an adult. I'm sorry I would think the adult should have to buy a license.
So the way I read that and correct me if I'm wrong is any Youth 17 and younger who has completed his or her hunter education program can go turkey hunting by themselves without an adult and without a license!
I'm sorry but if you and your father are hunting one or both should buy a license and most certainly if you are going out on your own you should buy a license!
The bigger issue is who in their right mind thinks a 13 to 15 or 16 year old is responsible enough to be out hunting on their own with no supervision!
After the age of 13 I spent countless outdoors hunting (and fishing). Also knew how to drive a farm tractor, Swing a hammer and clean wild game.
Regarding the reaping rule, I find it interesting that it appears that the rule against using a fan only applies to someone who is "stalking". That implies that someone who is in a "fixed position" (not moving towards a turkey) would not be in violation of this regulation. (perhaps stalking is defined and clarified somewhere else in the regs)
Bottom line to me is that the regulation should just state that it is illegal to have a turkey fan in possession while hunting (IMO...that should include any kind of turkey decoy with extended fan). The way the rule is written, it would be very difficult to enforce unless a wildlife officer actually witnessed someone moving towards a gobbler with the fan (or decoy) in hand.
In addition, if gobbler decoys/fans (if legal), were being carried in the field to be placed as fixed decoys somewhere, the act of carrying them could be interpreted as "stalking", even with no intent of such.
In summary, very poorly-worded regulation...and probably going to be unenforceable in many situations.
This new law only recently signed into law actually reduces the bag limit to 2 for both R and NR hunters unlike what is posted.
Agree with Gobblenut, the reaping law will be very hard to enforce.
The bigger problem than the moving versus stationary provision about the reaping/fanning is that it specially says on private land statewide which would indicate it is permissible on public land. There may be other provisions o law or definitions that take care of these problems.
Get rid of all reaping. I have no issue with youth or first time hunters shooting 1 jake. Nobody needs to shoot 2 or more jakes. But as long as the laws allow it, then I accept it. Don't agree with it, but the law is the law. Z
Quote from: NCL on July 22, 2024, 12:40:36 PMThe bigger problem than the moving versus stationary provision about the reaping/fanning is that it specially says on private land statewide which would indicate it is permissible on public land. There may be other provisions o law or definitions that take care of these problems.
It was already illegal on public land in SC.
Yep and bag limit reduced to 2. They screwed that up in that paragraph. I believe over to the left of that everything is printed correctly.
No one that reaps or carries a Turkey tail fan is a hunter.
Louisiana finally changed the law to no jakes. This will absolutely make a difference 300 jakes not killed this year is at least half that many more two year olds next spring that's math a four year old could grasp. Jake survival from year one to two is pretty high from the studies I've seen.
Palmetto Ron,
Thanks, I wondered it public land was covered under a difference code section
Quote from: GobbleNut on July 22, 2024, 10:02:25 AMRegarding the reaping rule, I find it interesting that it appears that the rule against using a fan only applies to someone who is "stalking". That implies that someone who is in a "fixed position" (not moving towards a turkey) would not be in violation of this regulation. (perhaps stalking is defined and clarified somewhere else in the regs)
Bottom line to me is that the regulation should just state that it is illegal to have a turkey fan in possession while hunting (IMO...that should include any kind of turkey decoy with extended fan). The way the rule is written, it would be very difficult to enforce unless a wildlife officer actually witnessed someone moving towards a gobbler with the fan (or decoy) in hand.
In addition, if gobbler decoys/fans (if legal), were being carried in the field to be placed as fixed decoys somewhere, the act of carrying them could be interpreted as "stalking", even with no intent of such.
In summary, very poorly-worded regulation...and probably going to be unenforceable in many situations.
You summed it up pretty accurately.
All for ban on reaping.
Jake rule won't help a thing.