Do any of you fellas wear face paint of does everyone wear a face mask? I have always wore a face mask up until about 10yrs ago I started wearing glasses and I started wearing paint instead because they would fog up if I wore a mask.
Mask, for the most part, but I have used camo makeup. I really like the makeup, I wear glasses as well, plus it's cooler, but I often hunt multiple spots on the same day and I feel kinda goofy driving down the road with it.
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Hope my foot lets me get back outside of a blind next year, it was one of the reasons for the surgery. If it does I am going to have to try to find a face paint that does not come off with sweat but is easy to come off with a baby wipe or washcloth, I had high hope for Carbo Mask face paint but it just runs off like water. Only thing I have found is the old Fred Bear face paint in the tubes that will not come off but it is not fun to try to get out. H.S. Strut is better but it can run as well. I would rather not wear a mask, I over heat as it is but it may be my only choice. Also try Cat Crap it helps with fogging, put on the paste first as instructed and they use the spray til it no longer works they use the paste again.
Leafy face mask is what I prefer..
I did the face paint at one time but with all the Anti fog products on the market today I wear a mask.
In my early days I used Fred Bear face paint, it came in tubes in black, green, brown, and tan. It made me feel like I was an Indian putting on his war paint. Now I use a mask that drops out of the hat.
I actually like face paint better, but a mask is so much more convenient that I quit using face paint years ago.
I like wearing a face mask with my cap. But I had to go through a few masks before I found one I liked. I don't really like having my ears covered because in my mind I lose just the slightest hearing. The mask I wear now is real thin but I have thought about going the face paint route.
I am also one who has used both over the years.
Face paint: Good for the woods but hate the strange looks from "society" that make me think that they think I might be a serial killer, so I rarely wear it anymore. ;D
Mask: I, too, wear glasses, and I have yet to discover a product that keeps my glasses from fogging up right about the time a gobbler gets to shooting range, so I never take the chance that is going to happen. Therefore, I wear a neck gator that I can pull up over my mouth but not my nose...but rarely even do that. (I also wear a cap with "built-in" netting that I can cover my bright-gray hair with :D )
My solutions (two things):
Thing 1: I have gotten to the point where I look for set-ups where I can tuck into brush or trees such that I have some sort of natural face covering. Most of my hunting is done in locations where there are trees ;D ...and there are almost always trees that fit "Thing 1" needs perfectly.
In addition (and again, based on where I hunt), I almost always take a standing position when setting up and choose trees that I can stand BEHIND and rest my gun on a limb at "shooting height". The added benefit of using a standing position, rather than a sitting position, is that standing generally affords a much greater degree of visibility, as well as maneuverability, for any approaching gobbler.
Now, although some might think that taking even a well-chosen standing position would result in increased likelihood of being busted, I have found no such correlation. In fact, from what I can tell in my experience, it is just the opposite. An approaching gobbler is looking for something at "hen-turkey height" when approaching the call. A sitting hunter fits that description perfectly (but looks nothing like a hen turkey), while a standing hunter (in the proper surroundings) does not.
Thing 2: I generally take a position in situations where I can't do "Thing 1" where I am shooting off of my knee and pull my head down tight on the gun such that there is minimal "facial exposure". Even in those situations, however, I still try to set-up behind some brush that will break up my outline and allow some adjustments in positioning. If I think the need arises in "Thing 2" situations, I will also use my camo-gloved off-hand to cover my face, as well.
In summary, I have reached the point where I don't worry about either face paint or masks...for the most part.
Always used a mask.
Now Cuz - Ronnie Strickland, he likes using the Halloween type face paint, he buys it cheap and has the best luck using it ... He waits until after Holloween and picks it up off the clearance rack...
Quote from: Turkeybutt on June 11, 2024, 04:55:58 AMI did the face paint at one time but with all the Anti fog products on the market today I wear a mask.
Please share a couple anti fog products that work for you. I have tried several over the years with no luck just as gobblenut.
Quote from: Bottomland OG on June 11, 2024, 09:57:53 AMQuote from: Turkeybutt on June 11, 2024, 04:55:58 AMI did the face paint at one time but with all the Anti fog products on the market today I wear a mask.
Please share a couple anti fog products that work for you. I have tried several over the years with no luck just as gobblenut.
None have worked for me either. I hate facemasks. I wear paint
Lots of people swear by using Cat Crap anti-fog ... Amazon / eBay has it for sale ... lots of good reviews.
I can't say for myself because I don't wear glasses...
But I can see where wearing glasses and a mask is definitely a challenge.
I wear a mesh camo mask with the eye opening below my nose. No fogging of my glasses. The mesh is really light and open.
I have often wondered if either was totally necessary. Never been brave enough to try and find out.
I been using Cat Crap anti fog the last two years with a light mesh below my nose. It works for me. My mask also has a nose piece that is adjustable. I looked the last two of three years and I no longer can find anybody that makes a face mask with a good adjustable nose piece.
I like a loose fitting facemask. I went with the ol Tom boonie hat and have been pleased.
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Facemask for me, I like to be able to take it off while moving around. In in case, I have to stop somewhere on my way home I don't look like I have war paint on.
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Facepaint. A mask cuts down on my hearing. It's not difficult to carry a spray bottle of water and dish soap in the truck along with a rag. Not that I am opposed to walking into a store with it on. I really don't care. Of course about everybody local knows me so they know what's up.
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Quote from: eggshell on June 11, 2024, 03:40:14 PMI have often wondered if either was totally necessary. Never been brave enough to try and find out.
I've killed 2 without a facemask after misplacing it but I'm not willing to go maskless on purpose.
Mask, can't stand the feeling of the face paint.
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I am way to good looking to wear paint. I can not see myself rolling up into a restaurant for breakfast after a good morning with paint all over me.
The 70 year old women would be put off for sure!
Quote from: Happy on June 11, 2024, 05:37:00 PMFacepaint. A mask cuts down on my hearing. It's not difficult to carry a spray bottle of water and dish soap in the truck along with a rag. Not that I am opposed to walking into a store with it on. I really don't care. Of course about everybody local knows me so they know what's up.
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I also go in stores with paint on. Most people know what the deal is but there the special ones, they look at you like you have 3 heads :TooFunny: I get a kick out of watching them stare at me.
100% face mask. I've done the face paint deal and didn't like having to scrub my face for 10 minutes everyday day only to put it back on a few hours or more later. I have a lightweight under armor one I got years ago that I use for everything.
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I always use paint.
Never liked a mask.
The paint also works real well on your shotgun if needed.
Always used a facemask.
I don't know about this discussion, Can anyone brief me what are we discussing in this discussion?
I understand the topic is "face mask or face sheet" but what about it? ???
If you went to the first page you would see that Bottomland OG asked the following question which would explain what this discussion is about.
Quote from: Bottomland OG on June 11, 2024, 12:50:35 AMDo any of you fellas wear face paint of does everyone wear a face mask? I have always wore a face mask up until about 10yrs ago I started wearing glasses and I started wearing paint instead because they would fog up if I wore a mask.
I hope that helps to clear it up for you bud.
A face sheet is what a women in Turkey wears.
A face mask, or paint is what you wear to turkey hunt.
Face paint is also what some cougars wear when they hunt for turkey hunters
Quote from: langy on June 13, 2024, 02:37:11 AMI don't know about this discussion, Can anyone brief me what are we discussing in this discussion?
I understand the topic is "face mask or face sheet" but what about it? ???
One would assume from your question and the small number of posts you have that you are probably new to turkey hunting and also to the OG forum. (You will also become aware quickly of the fact that we have some "characters" around here, as well... ;D :D )
Again, assuming the above assumption is correct and your question is sincere: Very briefly, turkeys see color and (since pretty much every other animal in the woods wants to eat them... :D ) they have evolved to be very capable of picking out things they see in the woods that are out of place...uncovered faces of hunters being one of those...and especially when turkeys are close. The two basic methods of alleviating that problem for hunters are to wear an article of clothing to cover one's face ("face mask")...or to use what is basically camouflage makeup ("face paint") which is applied directly to the skin to eliminate facial glare. ...Hope this helps... :) :icon_thumright:
I usually use a mask, but have used anti-glare strips over the years to breakup my face color. Easy to apply and remove and no mask to contend with.
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Quote from: crow on June 13, 2024, 07:02:37 AMA face sheet is what a women in Turkey wears.
A face mask, or paint is what you wear to turkey hunt.
Face paint is also what some cougars wear when they hunt for turkey hunters
Where can I find the Turkey hunting Cougars? I would be easy pray!
Quote from: WV Flopper on June 13, 2024, 09:49:19 PMQuote from: crow on June 13, 2024, 07:02:37 AMA face sheet is what a women in Turkey wears.
A face mask, or paint is what you wear to turkey hunt.
Face paint is also what some cougars wear when they hunt for turkey hunters
Where can I find the Turkey hunting Cougars? I would be easy pray!
pick any isle at your local walmarts, except maybe the automotive department
I always found it kind of odd when I saw guys posting turkey pics with facepaint on. Apparently it's more common than I thought based on this thread. I wear face paint in archery season and it drives me nuts trying to wash it off after the hunt.
To me, a facemask was always synonymous with turkey hunting. It must be a loose fitting one though. I bought a tight one this season unknowingly from Scheels online, and it's a nightmare to wear. I'll likely never wear it again.
Pretty much always been a mask guy mainly because older brands of oily face paint don't seem to mix too well with bug spray. Growing up hunting in FL in the spring long before thermacells a small bottle of bug spray was about as important as shotgun shells. I do like the convenience of the mask though and spraying a little bug juice on the hat and mask is better than the face and head anyway.
I am a face mask guy. I also wear glasses and still have not found a mask and anti-fog that work 100% of the time. I have found the Mossy Oak Tibbee Flex Mesh Mask works the best for me but I will always manage to fog up a little bit at least once a hunt. I have done paint but I but a.) it is oily and difficult to get off and b.) it makes my face hot and I don't like the feel on my face when the morning turns warmer. That's just a me thing.
I take the eye hole of the mask, where it goes over the nose, and elongate that with scissors so that I can wear it under my nose and since then, no fogging of my glasses. Basically, I cut a hole for my nose to stick out.
Back when I used face paint I would apply a layer of cold creme first and then the paint. It made it much easier to clean. Also, the make up removing wipes do a good job. This thread has made me think about going back to paint, I really don't like mask.
I use a mask, but if I use paint it is Carbo Mask mostly when bowhunting big game, no issue removing it at all!
I use a mask for Turkeys, but when bowhunting I use Carbo Mask or a burnt cork.
Quote from: Muzzy61 on June 19, 2024, 09:39:56 AMI use a mask for Turkeys, but when bowhunting I use Carbo Mask or a burnt cork.
I remember using burnt cork back in the day but that was a long time ago before face mask. Any camo paint years ago was hard to wash off and it left you always looking dirty.
Quote from: GobbleNut on June 11, 2024, 09:08:03 AMI am also one who has used both over the years.
Face paint: Good for the woods but hate the strange looks from "society" that make me think that they think I might be a serial killer, so I rarely wear it anymore. ;D
Mask: I, too, wear glasses, and I have yet to discover a product that keeps my glasses from fogging up right about the time a gobbler gets to shooting range, so I never take the chance that is going to happen. Therefore, I wear a neck gator that I can pull up over my mouth but not my nose...but rarely even do that. (I also wear a cap with "built-in" netting that I can cover my bright-gray hair with :D )
My solutions (two things):
Thing 1: I have gotten to the point where I look for set-ups where I can tuck into brush or trees such that I have some sort of natural face covering. Most of my hunting is done in locations where there are trees ;D ...and there are almost always trees that fit "Thing 1" needs perfectly.
In addition (and again, based on where I hunt), I almost always take a standing position when setting up and choose trees that I can stand BEHIND and rest my gun on a limb at "shooting height". The added benefit of using a standing position, rather than a sitting position, is that standing generally affords a much greater degree of visibility, as well as maneuverability, for any approaching gobbler.
Now, although some might think that taking even a well-chosen standing position would result in increased likelihood of being busted, I have found no such correlation. In fact, from what I can tell in my experience, it is just the opposite. An approaching gobbler is looking for something at "hen-turkey height" when approaching the call. A sitting hunter fits that description perfectly (but looks nothing like a hen turkey), while a standing hunter (in the proper surroundings) does not.
Thing 2: I generally take a position in situations where I can't do "Thing 1" where I am shooting off of my knee and pull my head down tight on the gun such that there is minimal "facial exposure". Even in those situations, however, I still try to set-up behind some brush that will break up my outline and allow some adjustments in positioning. If I think the need arises in "Thing 2" situations, I will also use my camo-gloved off-hand to cover my face, as well.
In summary, I have reached the point where I don't worry about either face paint or masks...for the most part.
When you set-up standing up, You don't have too much problem with legs becoming weak as you wait for Mister gobbler to come to perfect range? I know I would... But the again, i'll get sore butt also if i'm sat... So nothing is perfect. :angel9:
Quote from: eggshell on June 11, 2024, 03:40:14 PMI have often wondered if either was totally necessary. Never been brave enough to try and find out.
Same.
I have killed many without a face mask simply because I forgot to pull it up. My bearded chin and brim covered forehead doesn't leave much to see. The hands are much more important to cover up and even then I have taken toms when I forgot to put my gloves back on.
I don't use either and half the time don't wear camo either. I've never had an issue being busted, I don't hunt out of blinds either or fan/reap.
Most of what we do to conceal ourselves is actually unnecessary. It is an advantage, but mostly it's marketing for companies bagging hunters more than hunters bagging game. Like has been said here many times, it's movement that hurts us more than being spotted for our clothing. That and game animals have learned the human shape just like they have all predators, but movement is the biggest obstacle. I think you could put up a white sign with red letters saying "HUnter ahead" and they'd walk right past it. More than once I have had birds come out and strutt right beside my truck. We move more then we realize. Blinking eyes, lips moving, adjusting our position. Just watch some videos and count any movement a hunter makes. Human movement is unlike any other animal in the woods.
Quote from: YoungGobbler on June 26, 2024, 07:17:33 PMQuote from: GobbleNut on June 11, 2024, 09:08:03 AMIn addition (and again, based on where I hunt), I almost always take a standing position when setting up and choose trees that I can stand BEHIND and rest my gun on a limb at "shooting height". The added benefit of using a standing position, rather than a sitting position, is that standing generally affords a much greater degree of visibility, as well as maneuverability, for any approaching gobbler.
When you set-up standing up, You don't have too much problem with legs becoming weak as you wait for Mister gobbler to come to perfect range? I know I would... But the again, i'll get sore butt also if i'm sat... So nothing is perfect. :angel9:
Great point, YoungGobbler. Yes, there are times when I have had to stand long enough that I am thinking that maybe it was not such a great idea. ;D However, I don't usually choose a set-up unless I believe a gobbler I am calling to is coming to me...and usually, in those cases, he shows up before my legs give out.
I don't often use "blind calling" tactics where I just choose a location and call randomly, hoping that a gobbler is nearby, although there have been rare occasions where I have had to resort to that tactic...and in which case I will definitely sit rather than stand.
Also, there are those occasional situations where standing is just not feasible based on the set-up location. Sometimes the appropriate tree or bush is just not available...or standing is not advantageous based on the terrain features. However, I always evaluate each set-up I make on whether or not standing, rather than sitting, is going to be a better choice.
Way back when I first started turkey hunting, I never even considered that maybe standing up would give me a better opportunity at killing a gobbler in a certain situation. I always sat down just because...well, "that was the way you were supposed to do it" according to the "experts".
I finally had enough incidents in those early "sitting" years where gobblers didn't get killed because the "sitting-level" brush didn't allow me a good shot...even when those gobblers were plenty close enough that I should have been able to kill them. It took a while, but I finally "deduced" that,..."hmmm, maybe if I had just been standing up behind that tree right there, rather than sitting down here where I couldn't see very well, I could have easily killed that gobbler that just got away from me". ...I'm a slow learner, but I finally have gotten the message... ;D :D
Quote from: GobbleNut on June 30, 2024, 09:20:16 AMQuote from: YoungGobbler on June 26, 2024, 07:17:33 PMQuote from: GobbleNut on June 11, 2024, 09:08:03 AMIn addition (and again, based on where I hunt), I almost always take a standing position when setting up and choose trees that I can stand BEHIND and rest my gun on a limb at "shooting height". The added benefit of using a standing position, rather than a sitting position, is that standing generally affords a much greater degree of visibility, as well as maneuverability, for any approaching gobbler.
When you set-up standing up, You don't have too much problem with legs becoming weak as you wait for Mister gobbler to come to perfect range? I know I would... But the again, i'll get sore butt also if i'm sat... So nothing is perfect. :angel9:
Great point, YoungGobbler. Yes, there are times when I have had to stand long enough that I am thinking that maybe it was not such a great idea. ;D However, I don't usually choose a set-up unless I believe a gobbler I am calling to is coming to me...and usually, in those cases, he shows up before my legs give out.
I don't often use "blind calling" tactics where I just choose a location and call randomly, hoping that a gobbler is nearby, although there have been rare occasions where I have had to resort to that tactic...and in which case I will definitely sit rather than stand.
Also, there are those occasional situations where standing is just not feasible based on the set-up location. Sometimes the appropriate tree or bush is just not available...or standing is not advantageous based on the terrain features. However, I always evaluate each set-up I make on whether or not standing, rather than sitting, is going to be a better choice.
Way back when I first started turkey hunting, I never even considered that maybe standing up would give me a better opportunity at killing a gobbler in a certain situation. I always sat down just because...well, "that was the way you were supposed to do it" according to the "experts".
I finally had enough incidents in those early "sitting" years where gobblers didn't get killed because the "sitting-level" brush didn't allow me a good shot...even when those gobblers were plenty close enough that I should have been able to kill them. It took a while, but I finally "deduced" that,..."hmmm, maybe if I had just been standing up behind that tree right there, rather than sitting down here where I couldn't see very well, I could have easily killed that gobbler that just got away from me". ...I'm a slow learner, but I finally have gotten the message... ;D :D
I agree.with this. I stand 7 1/2 hours a day at work,so that doesn't pose a propblem for me. A problem that does occur is holding a shotgun in position without a knee to rest on. Standing behind the tree has worked good for me. I rest the shotgun against the tree. The tree will also bock your movement from any turkeys out in front. I have taken several this way.
I have killed turkeys when I was wearing black jeans and a green and black checkered shirt or a tan and white checkered shirt. No pop-ups for me, so it was just me, a shotgun and the woods.
Thanks for your answer Jim... I also see some pros of being stand up. Depends on the terrain as you said. I wonder if sometimes just sitting on a low chair would work just as good... But then again, too scared to try ;D
Being motionless is the key
Dougas, I am on my legs a lot for work also and I don't know but standing up and waiting motionless just kills me after a few minutes haha
I wonder what's the reaction of a turkey that sees a human not in camo... Even if your not moving, they must kind of stare? Like... more than if you are camoed up?
Quote from: YoungGobbler on June 30, 2024, 09:07:35 PMI don't know but standing up and waiting motionless just kills me after a few minutes
Standing up after sitting kills me. It takes quite a large amount of shaky energy to get up off the ground. I walk 1 to 3 miles a day, lift weights twice a week and move heavy glass as (in hundreds of pounds) at my job each day, so I am in somewhat decent shape at 60, and I have the worst time getting up from a sitting position.
I wear a face mask. I keep a half mask around my neck at all times in case I have to get into action quickly. If I have time I keep a full face leafy mask in my vest. I never liked face paint. IMO it is too messy. I wear glasses also and treat them with an anti fog wipe.
Quote from: Dougas on July 01, 2024, 12:04:49 AMQuote from: YoungGobbler on June 30, 2024, 09:07:35 PMI don't know but standing up and waiting motionless just kills me after a few minutes
Standing up after sitting kills me. It takes quite a large amount of shaky energy to get up off the ground. I walk 1 to 3 miles a day, lift weights twice a week and move heavy glass as (in hundreds of pounds) at my job each day, so I am in somewhat decent shape at 60, and I have the worst time getting up from a sitting position.
Dougas, I had a question in regard to one of your previous post... You said you hunted turkeys without any camo... How do they react when they come close to gun range and they see you ? They must stop and stare... But more or less than if you are camoed up...?
I wore checkered shirts which matched the terrain I was in, wore a face mask when I remembered to pull it up and always wear mesh gloves in the warm weather and wool gloves in the cold, rainy weather.
The checkered shirt was enough break up pattern that they reacted the same as when I started wearing camo. Turkeys are killed every year with shotguns that have no camo and light colored stocks, so it is a similar comparison.
I kill turkeys standing up every year, been doing it for a long time, really comes in handy in steep terrain with those peek a boo birds!
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Mask, wouldn't look good walking onto office with make up on!
I use a camo neck gaiter. Thin and stretchy. Pull it up and over my nose when needed, but not over my ears to block sound. Keeps the sun off the back of my neck, which for somebody with Irish skin, is a real issue.
The two things I dislike most about face mask are they are Hot an they impeded hearing. I see a lot of people pull them down and wear them around their neck when not in use. I can't stand this. If I do that I get hot fast. when I take a mask off it feels like walking into air conditioning to me, from the heat released. Heat dehydrates and exhaust me. Just a thought to put out there
That's why I wear an extremely thin open mesh. No cloth. It is very see-through and could easily be worn over the eyes if wanted to. Air passes right through it.
I've always been partial to the Quaker boy bandito face mask. Always been the most comfortable
Quote from: Dougas on July 06, 2024, 12:21:50 PMThat's why I wear an extremely thin open mesh. No cloth. It is very see-through and could easily be worn over the eyes if wanted to. Air passes right through it.
My Allen Shocker is like that and it makes no difference, can't stand it once it gets above 55-60 out. Same for the black one I wear in the blind.
Mask
Eye black for the win !!!