The season is over for most of us ...I always urge folks to stock on their favorite turkey ammunition , as it is notorious for fickle supply and product lines have a tendency to be suspended, discontinued or revamped into something entirely different
There is talk of a looming tarrif war with the current president promising increased taffifs on Chinese made electric vehicles , iron and aluminum...and the polls are favoring Trump and he is promising even more taffifs on those commodities..
Most of the turkey hunters are not aware ...That Chinese dominate and control the vast majority of tungsten, Tss, and tungsten matrix ..if you have been around a awhile the price rose years ago ...resulting in whole manufactured shells and raw tss,hevi etc shot to significantly rise in prices ...there is a possibility for this to happen again
Buy a box or two it won't kill you , im not trying to inject panic , but more of a "steady pace wins the race " and "save up for a rainy day " Nobody can say the prices on turkey ammo will go UP , but I can promise you ammunition prices on tungsten will probably never go significantly lower in our lifetimes ..
I remember when you could buy copper plated 2 ounce 10 packs of turkey shells off the counter gor 5.99...I'm getting old !
Shannon
As tungsten prices have risen exponentially, I've always wondered why the more heavily (not heavier) alloyed tungstens have gone away? Why in the world did they stop making Hevi-13? Why in the world don't they make that Hevi-12 in turkey offerings instead of just waterfowl loads?
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Good advice
Good Advice... I tell people all the time don't wait until you need turkey ammo... I think most of us on this forum have a good stock ... LOL..
I could go back to using the copper lead and it wouldn't bother me at all... IMO
Quote from: ChesterCopperpot on May 29, 2024, 09:35:21 AMAs tungsten prices have risen exponentially, I've always wondered why the more heavily (not heavier) alloyed tungstens have gone away? Why in the world did they stop making Hevi-13? Why in the world don't they make that Hevi-12 in turkey offerings instead of just waterfowl loads?
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hevi 13 and the like were the cats meow 20 years ago , its still deadly...I think a combination of the rising price of the materials (tungsten ) that goes into the final product and the popularity of nearly pure tss
whole manufactured shells being readily available...
Most consumers once the final ticket price went above a certain price point per 5 round box .. they just went all the way and went top dollar
Another thing to note is that the large ammunition companies , federal, Winchester figured out that the profit margin on selling TSS was was vastly greater that good old lead and started focusing on marketing premium tss turkey loads
Covid also didn't help , all of the ammo companies once they got up and running put the low profit margin products on the back burner for availability and focused on getting big profits
The saying goes " if it doesn't make sense, there must be a buck in it " is more true than ever
Quote from: Old Gobbler on May 29, 2024, 10:25:40 AMThe saying goes " if it doesn't make sense, there must be a buck in it " is more true than ever
I think you're absolutely right.
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Thanks for the heads up. Just ordered some. And of course they had a pair of camo pants on sale I had to add. :funnyturkey:
Just my opinion: USA needs to decrease dependence on foreign stuff, esp China. USA needs to level tariffs on foreign stuff just like "they" do our "stuff". I've considered switching to TSS but haven't for my own reasons, a lot of it being financial. Still successful so if I have to keep shooting lead due to these reasons I most certainly will with absolutely no regrets.
While I agree that the US needs to become less reliant on foreign sources, especially China, for critical products such as medical supplies, drugs and especially semiconductors, tariffs usually bite the American consumer in the rear. Give incentives to domestic producers of these products.
Politicians, both Biden and Trump will end up raising prices for us all if they aggressively enforce tariffs.
I totally agree that for those shooting TSS, buy some more now. It will not get cheaper.
Quote from: PalmettoRon on June 02, 2024, 09:30:44 AMWhile I agree that the US needs to become less reliant on foreign sources, especially China, for critical products such as medical supplies, drugs and especially semiconductors, tariffs usually bite the American consumer in the rear. Give incentives to domestic producers of these products.
Politicians, both Biden and Trump will end up raising prices for us all if they aggressively enforce tariffs.
I totally agree that for those shooting TSS, buy some more now. It will not get cheaper.
100% agree. Produce more here. As far as tariffs biting us- absolutely. They need to bite consumers in other nations too. If we produce more here and export more there, we get bit less and they get bit more...exactly the opposite of what we have now btw.