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Title: Decoys or Not
Post by: Johnhunter21 on April 12, 2024, 03:06:10 PM
Kentucky opener is tomorrow and the farm I am hunting is mostly open fields with a woodline on the edges. Im pretty limited on places to set up on the woodline so I cant really reposition once they fly down in the field so Id like to bring them to my setup. What is everyones experience with using Jake & Hen , Jake only, or Hen only in the early stage of the season?
Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: bbcoach on April 12, 2024, 03:34:30 PM
John, I sent you a PM.  Good luck Buddy!
Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: RutnNStrutn on April 12, 2024, 05:03:00 PM
First of all, you can expect that the elitists are going to jump all over this post and criticize you for not hunting like they do.
Personally, if I were in a limited situation like that, I would definitely use the dekes. For field birds it's a visual game. If you're calling and they look over and see nothing, that's not a good scenario. I would use a couple of hens and a jake. Any gobblers that see him with a couple of ladies isn't going to be very happy about it, and will probably come in. I've had gobblers leave their hens and run over to fight using that setup.
Best of luck!!

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Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: Sanders153 on April 12, 2024, 05:29:01 PM
Definitely bring them. If you wind up not using them that's ok, but if you have a setup were they would be ideal you'll be in luck if you've got em. Sometimes they can make all the difference especially in open scenarios
Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: Johnhunter21 on April 12, 2024, 06:21:51 PM
Quote from: RutnNStrutn on April 12, 2024, 05:03:00 PM
First of all, you can expect that the elitists are going to jump all over this post and criticize you for not hunting like they do.
Personally, if I were in a limited situation like that, I would definitely use the dekes. For field birds it's a visual game. If you're calling and they look over and see nothing, that's not a good scenario. I would use a couple of hens and a jake. Any gobblers that see him with a couple of ladies isn't going to be very happy about it, and will probably come in. I've had gobblers leave their hens and run over to fight using that setup.
Best of luck!!

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Ah yes, I must kneel before the almighty elitists lol. I love the thrill of woods hunting just like everyone, that anticipation of seeing that gobbling red head pop over the hill, theres nothing like it. I just dont have many options with my setup this year, so definitely want to make the most of it. Thank you!
Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: Tom007 on April 12, 2024, 06:26:00 PM
Quote from: Johnhunter21 on April 12, 2024, 03:06:10 PM
Kentucky opener is tomorrow and the farm I am hunting is mostly open fields with a woodline on the edges. Im pretty limited on places to set up on the woodline so I cant really reposition once they fly down in the field so Id like to bring them to my setup. What is everyones experience with using Jake & Hen , Jake only, or Hen only in the early stage of the season?

What I've been told, use a Jake and hen. A hen only might make him hang up wanting her to come to him. The Jake will force him to come challenge him for the lady.....
Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: Paulmyr on April 12, 2024, 08:00:14 PM
Interesting stuff. Recently heard the reason Jake's might have short stubby beards because it's a signal to gobblers they are immature and don't pose competition. They guy who said it likened it to baby male bluebird being born with spots on its chest to delineate it from an adult male because the rest of their plumage is the same. Studies have been done with bluebirds using juvenile decoys with and without the spots. Without spots where pretty much torn apart, the ones with spots didn't get touched.

His suggestion was to put out the rattiest, scrawniest looking gobbler decoy you got. Prolly why the funky chicken works. Might also be why a group a Jake's can bully around an adult gobbler because it's in his instincts not to fight back.
Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: Zobo on April 12, 2024, 08:15:37 PM
Quote from: RutnNStrutn on April 12, 2024, 05:03:00 PM
First of all, you can expect that the elitists are going to jump all over this post and criticize you for not hunting like they do.
Personally, if I were in a limited situation like that, I would definitely use the dekes. For field birds it's a visual game. If you're calling and they look over and see nothing, that's not a good scenario. I would use a couple of hens and a jake. Any gobblers that see him with a couple of ladies isn't going to be very happy about it, and will probably come in. I've had gobblers leave their hens and run over to fight using that setup.
Best of luck!!

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As one of the so called elitists, I agree with you.
I'm not against using decoys, I taught my kids that way and i personally have no issue with it. 

Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: eggshell on April 12, 2024, 08:35:01 PM
Well if it was me and I suppose Zobo would agree, I can only condone the use of "elite" decoys. A couple elite hens and an elite jake should work just fine. I think the banter has gone far enough and maybe we can just answer the poster's question honestly or not at all. Yes, in a field situation like you are describing decoys will certainly be an asset. Whether I or anyone else desires to use or not use them doesn't matter for answering the question, the truth is in fields they work great.
Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: mspaci on April 12, 2024, 08:42:56 PM
rarely use a decoy
Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: Tclipse01 on April 12, 2024, 08:44:59 PM
I don't use them, but I bought some for my dad since his mobility isn't what it used to be. His run n' gun days are over so the dekes help him up his odds while staying stationary.
Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: Bedge7767 on April 12, 2024, 08:59:12 PM
Jake and a hen
Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: sbbow on April 12, 2024, 09:35:53 PM
Quote from: Bedge7767 on April 12, 2024, 08:59:12 PM
Jake and a hen
X2 you hunt the way you want not what someone else would do .


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Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: Marc on April 12, 2024, 10:01:15 PM
Open field, pasture, or meadow hunting, I do think decoys are important...  As RutnNStrutn points out, There has to be a visual stimulus to match the auditory stimuls on open ground.

I would use a 3/4 jake or even a Funky Chicken along with a laydown hen and standing hen (if they are all available.)  Pull the stake off a standing hen, and she becomes a laydown.  I have an Avian X Jake, and a Funky Chicken...  Birds that come into that Funky Chicken hate it, and although I have only had limited experience over either, I feel like fewer birds have avoided the Funky Chicken than the more realistic Avain.  I have heard anecdotal evidence which both supports and opposes my own experience...

If I had one, and was planning on being somewhat stationary, I do think the DSD jake is the best choice though...

Especially in an open field, I would feel that a bird is more likely to hang up and strutt out of range, waiting for those hens to come to him, with hen only decoys...  A strutter is more likely to scare off birds than a jake decoy...  And if they come into a full strutter they will most likely come into a jake as well...

I kill almost all my birds without a decoy in the woods...  But if I am hunting a pasture or meadow, I have no issue using them.  The excitement and satisfaction level is higher for me without the decoys...  But every once in a while, I do enjoy watching a bird run in to beat up that jake decoy and shoot him at 15 yards...
Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: squidd on April 12, 2024, 10:55:54 PM
= bang bang dinner

Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: appalachianassassin on April 13, 2024, 05:38:25 AM
Quote from: Johnhunter21 on April 12, 2024, 03:06:10 PM
Kentucky opener is tomorrow and the farm I am hunting is mostly open fields with a woodline on the edges. Im pretty limited on places to set up on the woodline so I cant really reposition once they fly down in the field so Id like to bring them to my setup. What is everyones experience with using Jake & Hen , Jake only, or Hen only in the early stage of the season?
One thing to point out is opening day start's in the mid season now.
Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: Greg Massey on April 13, 2024, 05:44:29 AM
Hunt the way you want and good luck regardless ... It's Spring Turkey Season
Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: ScottTaulbee on April 13, 2024, 05:52:12 AM
As Appalachian assassin said, the turkeys here have been breeding for close to a month from what I've been seeing in my area as far as flock structure. With that said, I don't use decoys personally but for my kids and dad, they come out every time. I use a Jake and hen, with the hen laying on the ground say 4 feet in front of the Jake. Good luck!.


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Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: bbcoach on April 13, 2024, 12:26:32 PM
Is that a BLACK TIE on that Funky Chicken?  Looks as if we have a BLACK TIE affair dinner.  LOL!
Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: Tail Feathers on April 13, 2024, 02:41:26 PM
Decoys can really help with field birds.  Good luck on the opener, whatever you choose to do!
Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: squidd on April 13, 2024, 05:42:03 PM
Quote from: bbcoach on April 13, 2024, 12:26:32 PM
Is that a BLACK TIE on that Funky Chicken?  Looks as if we have a BLACK TIE affair dinner.  LOL!

I use a Velcro strap to tie the decoy stakes to the lounger and kept losing it. Figured it went with the decor at hand and haven't lost it yet.

Still waiting to see if Funky will scare off a big ol' Tom with such a fine beard.
Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: bbcoach on April 13, 2024, 07:05:55 PM
Quote from: squidd on April 13, 2024, 05:42:03 PM
Quote from: bbcoach on April 13, 2024, 12:26:32 PM
Is that a BLACK TIE on that Funky Chicken?  Looks as if we have a BLACK TIE affair dinner.  LOL!

I use a Velcro strap to tie the decoy stakes to the lounger and kept losing it. Figured it went with the decor at hand and haven't lost it yet.

Still waiting to see if Funky will scare off a big ol' Tom with such a fine beard.
I thought it was a velcro strap and a makeshift beard but for the life of me I couldn't figure out why such a huge beard on a scrawny bird.  Let us know how the experiment works.  Just a little Funky Chicken humor. 
Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: Greg Massey on April 13, 2024, 08:05:34 PM
I thought about getting a Funky Chicken but instead i got me a survey stake and painted it black put me a red solo cup nailed to the top of the stake and it works...
Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: Paulmyr on April 13, 2024, 08:07:40 PM
Quote from: bbcoach on April 13, 2024, 12:26:32 PM
Is that a BLACK TIE on that Funky Chicken?  Looks as if we have a BLACK TIE affair dinner.  LOL!

The owner is obviously an elitist! :goofball:
Title: Re: Decoys or Not
Post by: richard black on April 13, 2024, 08:57:25 PM
On a field they definitely help. Use one and don't look back.