Camouflage has come along way over the years, in fact it's a multi-million dollar industry. We all remember the early Military Camo in the 70's, Woodland, Tiger Stripe etc. I myself started with Military Tiger Stripe on my PA opener in the early 80's. In 1985, Jim Crumley invented Trebark Camo. It started as a deer hunter favorite, but quickly hit the turkey woods. Jim is known to be the father/pioneer of the early hunting camouflage. Then shortly after in 1986 Bill Jordan introduced Realtree and Toxey Haas introduced Mossy Oak. These 3 patterns in my opinion set the standard for all that followed. I believe that Mossy Oak leads the pack today, especially in the turkey community. Many of the famous Turkey guns from the early days sported Original Bottomland, Greenleaf, Mossy Oak Treestand and Trebark. Trebark is probably the rarest Camo found on Turkey Guns, the rare and sought after Remington 1187 in Trebark demands top dollar in the market today. I myself love this Old School Camo, I enjoy collecting the Old School Camo Turkey guns. I think a great marketing ploy would be to re-introduce these original patterns back into the Turkey specific firearms on the market today. Thanks for listening, your input here is welcome.....
The few pics my parents took of me with turkeys / deer / squirrels when I was a teenager, I had on the same brown carhart over alls and a faded army camo shirt . I saw a set of bottom land camo in Natchez Ms around 88 I think .. we laughed at it . If I'd know what I know now ,, I'd of invested in the company !
I would love to have an original greenleaf 870
As soon as mossberg came out with a 500 in greenleaf last year I ordered one in 410
I grew up in hand me down classic camo. I was born in 1986 so by the time I was of age camo industry was booming. Nowadays I'm likely to wear 5 camo patterns on one hunt. Always some classics in the mix.
Quote from: btodd00 on February 25, 2024, 05:55:48 PM
I would love to have an original greenleaf 870
As soon as mossberg came out with a 500 in greenleaf last year I ordered one in 410
Quote from: Howie g on February 25, 2024, 05:41:47 PM
The few pics my parents took of me with turkeys / deer / squirrels when I was a teenager, I had on the same brown carhart over alls and a faded army camo shirt . I saw a set of bottom land camo in Natchez Ms around 88 I think .. we laughed at it . If I'd know what I know now ,, I'd of invested in the company !
Yea, the camo industry took off and never returned. The Original Greenleaf 870 is the Holy Grail 870 for sure...
My first factory camo turkey gun is a NWTF Edition with the stock medallion in the old woodland camo pattern. My first real camo for turkey hunting was Tree Bark...
I still have the shotgun ...
Quote from: Greg Massey on February 25, 2024, 06:58:07 PM
My first factory camo turkey gun is a NWTF Edition with the stock medallion in the old woodland camo pattern. My first real camo for turkey hunting was Tree Bark...
I still have the shotgun ...
That's a treasure my friend.....
Quote from: arkrem870 on February 25, 2024, 06:39:41 PM
I grew up in hand me down classic camo. I was born in 1986 so by the time I was of age camo industry was booming. Nowadays I'm likely to wear 5 camo patterns on one hunt. Always some classics in the mix.
Nothing wrong with mixing Camo, in fact it is effective and a great idea. I do it often also.....
Quote from: Greg Massey on February 25, 2024, 06:58:07 PM
My first factory camo turkey gun is a NWTF Edition with the stock medallion in the old woodland camo pattern. My first real camo for turkey hunting was Tree Bark...
I still have the shotgun ...
Greg, if you are anything like me, even if it wasn't worn out, the camo wouldn't fit anymore. :toothy12: :toothy12:
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Quote from: Greg Massey on February 25, 2024, 06:58:07 PM
My first factory camo turkey gun is a NWTF Edition with the stock medallion in the old woodland camo pattern. My first real camo for turkey hunting was Tree Bark...
I still have the shotgun ...
Greg, if you are anything like me, even if it wasn't worn out, the camo wouldn't fit anymore. :toothy12: :toothy12:
Amen, i had already handed it down many years ago,,, lol
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Quote from: btodd00 on February 25, 2024, 05:55:48 PM
I would love to have an original greenleaf 870
As soon as mossberg came out with a 500 in greenleaf last year I ordered one in 410
Quote from: Howie g on February 25, 2024, 05:41:47 PM
The few pics my parents took of me with turkeys / deer / squirrels when I was a teenager, I had on the same brown carhart over alls and a faded army camo shirt . I saw a set of bottom land camo in Natchez Ms around 88 I think .. we laughed at it . If I'd know what I know now ,, I'd of invested in the company !
Yea, the camo industry took off and never returned. The Original Greenleaf 870 is the Holy Grail 870 for sure...
I had one of these a few years back but I let a friend of mine trade me out of it. Yea it's nice for the nostalgic of it but and the end of the day it's just a camo pattern. I don't get caught up in all the trends
Does anyone remember "Ranger" brand camouflage clothing? That's the first I recall being sold as hunting camo in sporting goods stores. This would have been in the late 1960's. Prior to that, you could buy "Greenbriar" clothing from the Bill Boatman catalog. That was simply olive drab, not regulation camo per se, but it was good stuff. Our own Eggshell was involved in that enterprise, I believe.
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Back in 1977, I had a tan canvas hunting coat that I'd used squirrel and dove hunting since I was 14 or 15. I had an old school green camo field jacket that I wore duck hunting, but it stuck out in the marsh like a sore thumb. I gathered up some acrylic paints and painted my canvas coat with cattail, marshgrass, and dead stick patterns. It blended so well that I was standing 20 yards from a buddy of mine in the marsh just after sunrise one morning and he hollered for me, like I was a long ways off. When he heard me say "I'm right here." and realized how close I was, he had me paint one up for him too. Sadly, I never investigated making more or producing them on e bigger scale.
Jim
I worked in a gun shop in the 90s, we had an 1100 in greenleaf, couldn't give it away, boy have times changed.
I would have bought it but I think Remingtons are heavy and bulky so I never cared for them.
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Man I like something different, I love the Kuiu camo and also just got a hat and pull over from Dead bird walking that I really like..
Quote from: Bill on February 25, 2024, 09:54:56 PM
Does anyone remember "Ranger" brand camouflage clothing? That's the first I recall being sold as hunting camo in sporting goods stores. This would have been in the late 1960's. Prior to that, you could buy "Greenbriar" clothing from the Bill Boatman catalog. That was simply olive drab, not regulation camo per se, but it was good stuff. Our own Eggshell was involved in that enterprise, I believe.
I thought I had been around for a while. But neirher Ranger or Greenbriar are ringing any bells.......althought the Bill Boatman catalog floated around our house.
You chance have any pics or other details on the clothes, Bill ??
My first camo outfit was a light cotton woodland-type jacket and pants from ~1978. I bought a Carhartt jacket and pants in Trebark when it came out. Then original Realtree Brown Leaf.
Still have them all. Don't know who they'd fit......... ::) But I have them.
My first camo outfit was a two piece pants and shirt set in the only one available at the time, the WW2 camo pattern. That was about 1975. Then to Woodland, Realtree, etc. My all time favorite pattern is Bill Jordan's Advantage "Timber". My Benelli SBE I is that pattern.
I thought I had been around for a while. But neirher Ranger or Greenbriar are ringing any bells.......althought the Bill Boatman catalog floated around our house.
You chance have any pics or other details on the clothes, Bill ??
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We had complete outfits back then but the only thing left of that old "Ranger" camo is this fragment of a headnet that I use to this day on whatever hat is handy. Wish I could find more of it. All the new headnet material is stiff and shiny by comparison.
If Eggshell sees this I am sure he will chime in re: Greenbrier. He actually knew and worked for Bill Boatman back in the day.
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I thought I had been around for a while. But neirher Ranger or Greenbriar are ringing any bells.......althought the Bill Boatman catalog floated around our house.
You chance have any pics or other details on the clothes, Bill ??
We had complete outfits back then but the only thing left of that old "Ranger" camo is this fragment of a headnet that I use to this day on whatever hat is handy. Wish I could find more of it. All the new headnet material is stiff and shiny by comparison.
If Eggshell sees this I am sure he will chime in re: Greenbrier. He actually knew and worked for Bill Boatman back in the day.
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Cool Camo there......
I still have an old vest in the Fratzke pattern.
Winona I believe is the camo, always thought KUIU copied it a bit with their Vias pattern.
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That guy with the headnet looks as dumb as a post!
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Quote from: Bill on February 26, 2024, 12:01:12 PM
I thought I had been around for a while. But neirher Ranger or Greenbriar are ringing any bells.......althought the Bill Boatman catalog floated around our house.
You chance have any pics or other details on the clothes, Bill ??
We had complete outfits back then but the only thing left of that old "Ranger" camo is this fragment of a headnet that I use to this day on whatever hat is handy. Wish I could find more of it. All the new headnet material is stiff and shiny by comparison.
If Eggshell sees this I am sure he will chime in re: Greenbrier. He actually knew and worked for Bill Boatman back in the day.
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That's a VERY similar pattern to the "woodland-like" jacket and pants I have.......
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Quote from: Bill on February 26, 2024, 12:01:12 PM
That's a VERY similar pattern to the "woodland-like" jacket and pants I have.......
Maybe it's he same thing? "Ranger" is just a brand name I remember, not necessarily a specific camoflage pattern.
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That guy with the headnet looks as dumb as a post!
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It's sad that in today's society people continue to judge posts based simply on their appearance.
I have a lot of fond memories (and thankfully, photos) of my late father wearing Trebark hunting turkeys. He was never into fads or technical stuff but he was serious about concealment.
I still have a little of the old school stuff. I have given a pile of it away. Every once in a while, i break some out and kill a turkey while wearing it. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240227/1bc59944450f317f16effa18db7040f2.jpg)
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I still have a little of the old school stuff. I have given a pile of it away. Every once in a while, i break some out and kill a turkey while wearing it. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240227/1bc59944450f317f16effa18db7040f2.jpg)
Now I see why they call you "Happy"! Great pic!
I have a one of those bottomland 870's. It's my main turkey rig. I will never part with it. I also still have a treebark jacket and treebark rain coat from the 80's. I still wear and hunt in the jacket. The rain coat not so much as it's pretty noisy.
Quote from: ElkTurkMan on February 27, 2024, 06:44:36 PM
I have a one of those bottomland 870's. It's my main turkey rig. I will never part with it. I also still have a treebark jacket and treebark rain coat from the 80's. I still wear and hunt in the jacket. The rain coat not so much as it's pretty noisy.
The bottomland 870's are really nice, I enjoy mine too. I wish they would introduce them again, they would be a big hit....
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That guy with the headnet looks as dumb as a post!
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It's sad that in today's society people continue to judge posts based simply on their appearance.
I wish we had a funny post rating system. That's funny right there, I don't care who ya are. :TooFunny:
Anyone remember the treebark hat with built in mask you could with upc from winchester turkey shells wish i still had mine
Agreed except Trebark was at least 5 or 6 years ahead of Mr. Jordan or Mr. Haas.
Any of them work as well as the other including military patterns if you sit still. Any earth tones/dull drab looking colors will work for that matter.
Camo industry is big marketing designed to catch hunters