Would you as an Adult Turkey Hunter be out Scouting on Public Land in your State on the Youth Turkey Hunting Day or Weekend?
I say No. Let little Bobby have his chance at a big Gobbler when Grandpa calls one in.
Thoughts--
That's a no for me. I wouldn't want to interfere in a youths chance at a turkey. We have a week after youth weekend to scout before the general season opens up.
From the main roads yes, but not in the trails and woods where the youth would be hunting... Driving along the main public roads and listening in my opinion is no different than the mailman delivering the mail.... Just be respectful of others .... Driving around could also give you some ideas of the most pressured areas.
Heck no! If someone takes a youth to hunt public land for youth season they deserve the best chance they can get. Not sure what the laws are on this, but interfering with a kid trying to legally kill a turkey on public should be grounds for a ticket.
I think you could scout with your ears from a place that is not likely to mess up any hunt. Parking lots, roads, trail heads. You might even get to hear a boom or two to let you know which areas to not focus on where you believed there had been birds previously.
I'm not sure how other people scout but if your worried about messing up a youth hunt your doing it wrong.
Quote from: Paulmyr on February 06, 2024, 11:23:56 AM
I'm not sure how other people scout but if your worried about messing up a youth hunt your doing it wrong.
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This isn't directed to any of the above posts...just offering my opinion for the ones reading threads.
Let's say you park at a gate before gobbling time with intentions to listen from the road or walk in to listen. No calling or anything intended. Then here comes a father/son, mentor/youth, grandpa/youth that's been anticipating youth weekend for months. They see someone parked at the spot they were planning on going to and in good sportsmanship they go to their plan b spot because someone else was already there. Did the little boy or girl's odds of killing a turkey go up or down?
I've hunted public for turkeys exclusively for the last 13 years and my most rewarding hunt was watching a 6 year old shoot his first gobbler on public land during youth season. There's honestly nothing more rewarding in turkey hunting than witnessing that kind of excitement.
When I first started hunting public I was selfish and would've scouted whenever I could. I would park at a gate to keep people out of there if needed. Point is I get it...but let these kids have their fun. A dead turkey is a memory that will last a lifetime for that little boy or girl and the adult that made it happen.
That being said, anyone have any yoots that need some guidance during youth season? ;D
Quick answer - No .
Quote from: Swamp_870 on February 06, 2024, 11:53:16 AM
This isn't directed to any of the above posts...just offering my opinion for the ones reading threads.
Let's say you park at a gate before gobbling time with intentions to listen from the road or walk in to listen. No calling or anything intended. Then here comes a father/son, mentor/youth, grandpa/youth that's been anticipating youth weekend for months. They see someone parked at the spot they were planning on going to and in good sportsmanship they go to their plan b spot because someone else was already there. Did the little boy or girl's odds of killing a turkey go up or down?
I've hunted public for turkeys exclusively for the last 13 years and my most rewarding hunt was watching a 6 year old shoot his first gobbler on public land during youth season. There's honestly nothing more rewarding in turkey hunting than witnessing that kind of excitement.
When I first started hunting public I was selfish and would've scouted whenever I could. I would park at a gate to keep people out of there if needed. Point is I get it...but let these kids have their fun. A dead turkey is a memory that will last a lifetime for that little boy or girl and the adult that made it happen.
That being said, anyone have any yoots that need some guidance during youth season? ;D
Using your example, if the area in question is so small that gramps,pops, and the boy feel they need to move along to different spot I don't need to be there before gobble time. I just need 15 -20 mins before sunrise to listen from the road or parking area before I move along.
If the youth gang plans on hunting that area they should be in there ready to go well in advance of when I show up.
NOPE!!!!! I definitely don't want to ruin someone's hunt. I wouldn't want it done to my son or daughter or someone I had out hunting so......
So what you guys are saying is the most important time to be out scouting(1 to 2 weekend's before the season) is off limits because there might be a youth hunting somewhere?
All of the youth seasons I know of are a weekend. So what they are saying is for a couple days try to be respectful of the kids out there.
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I think everyone should let the kids have it. No need to be out there possibly messing with a kids hunt.
Best answer? Find a kid who wants to go and doesn't have the chance and take them yourself.
I guess I am the jerk here. Answer here is to take a kid hunting and get your info by helping a kid out. If you are not mentoring a kid, stay on the main road. Just my :z-twocents: Z
Quote from: Paulmyr on February 06, 2024, 12:29:59 PM
So what you guys are saying is the most important time to be out scouting(1 to 2 weekend's before the season) is off limits because there might be a youth hunting somewhere?
ABSOLUTELY!!!! BE CONSIDERATE!! Eat a little Crow and make time to SCOUT when the youngsters and FUTURE HUNTERS are in school. I think we call this Sportsmanship and we could All get better at it.
Frequently have done this when kids were too old and now grands not old enough yet. I was scouting , which consisted of getting there fairly late and just listening from a main road with no calling or locators. Was parked on the side of the road listening to one gobble and had a father and son drive past. I flagged them down and told them to shut off engine. They did and when that bird gobbled the young man's eyes went wide open! I looked at his dad and said "Go get em". He thanked me a dozen times as they were getting ready. I sat for a minute and then drove on to another spot to listen. Did not know them and do not know if they got him or not.
Nothing at all wrong with listening and moving on, especially later in the morning. Don't block anyone in or get there too early. In my family the whole season is youth weekend anyways, so just not that big of a deal.
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Quote from: Paulmyr on February 06, 2024, 12:29:59 PM
So what you guys are saying is the most important time to be out scouting(1 to 2 weekend's before the season) is off limits because there might be a youth hunting somewhere?
ABSOLUTELY!!!! BE CONSIDERATE!! Eat a little Crow and make time to SCOUT when the youngsters and FUTURE HUNTERS are in school. I think we call this Sportsmanship and we could All get better at it.
I'll just go to my boss and say. Hey bossman! I need some time off because I can't go scouting during my days off because it's youth weekend. C,mon man I get it. the kids have thier special weekend and thats great. Some of you are taking thing a little overboard. It's not enough they have special privileges for that weekend, but now I'm supposed to take off work and stay away from the woods because there might be a slight chance I may interrupt a kids hunt? For real? For this I'm being labeled as unsportsmanlike? Being called inconsiderate? Told to eat crow?
No
Negatory ghost rider!!!
Quote from: quavers59 on February 06, 2024, 10:42:17 AM
Would you as an Adult Turkey Hunter be out Scouting on Public Land in your State on the Youth Turkey Hunting Day or Weekend?
I say No. Let little Bobby have his chance at a big Gobbler when Grandpa calls one in.
Thoughts--
Absolutely not!
No absolutely not. You can scout the day before or the day after the youth season.
Quite honestly, my first thought about this question was wondering how many people hunt in places and under conditions where this concern would even arise. The idea that the youth hunting season would be crowded enough and under conditions where someone could not scout without the possibility of interfering with a youth hunter is a completely foreign concept to me. My condolences to you folks that find yourselves in that position.
Having stated that up-front, I suppose a lot of the decision to scout during a time period, youth hunt or not, depends on the specific circumstances associated with the area you are planning on scouting. For me, it is strictly a function of whether you can scout without the possibility of interfering with someone else's hunting, period. I generally hunt large areas of public land on which one can readily "scout" without interfering with anyone that might be there hunting. Simply stated, experienced and conscientious turkey hunters are, or should be, well aware of whether what they are doing is potentially interfering with someone else.
Generally speaking, if you are going to scout, give a wide berth to anybody, kid or adult, that might be hunting the area. Are there places where doing that is impossible due to the area size, concentration of hunters, or other factors that might make it unfeasible? If so, don't do it...but in my opinion, that situation should be pretty obvious...and I would think, pretty rare.
Around here, scouting during the youth season without the possibility of interfering is easily accomplished...and can provide valuable information about what areas are being hunted...and what areas are not...and which could provide valuable information as to those places that might be more conducive to your own success later.
And as others have pointed out, scouting techniques and methods should always be as unobtrusive as possible, while still accomplishing the desired goals. If you are doing something that is causing problems for other hunters while scouting, you are probably doing something that is going to negatively impact your own chances later.
Quote from: GobbleNut on February 06, 2024, 03:22:22 PM
Quite honestly, my first thought about this question was wondering how many people hunt in places and under conditions where this concern would even arise. The idea that the youth hunting season would be crowded enough and under conditions where someone could not scout without the possibility of interfering with a youth hunter is a completely foreign concept to me. My condolences to you folks that find yourselves in that position.
Having stated that up-front, I suppose a lot of the decision to scout during a time period, youth hunt or not, depends on the specific circumstances associated with the area you are planning on scouting. For me, it is strictly a function of whether you can scout without the possibility of interfering with someone else's hunting, period. I generally hunt large areas of public land on which one can readily "scout" without interfering with anyone that might be there hunting. Simply stated, experienced and conscientious turkey hunters are, or should be, well aware of whether what they are doing is potentially interfering with someone else.
Generally speaking, if you are going to scout, give a wide berth to anybody, kid or adult, that might be hunting the area. Are there places where doing that is impossible due to the area size, concentration of hunters, or other factors that might make it unfeasible? If so, don't do it...but in my opinion, that situation should be pretty obvious...and I would think, pretty rare.
Around here, scouting during the youth season without the possibility of interfering is easily accomplished...and can provide valuable information about what areas are being hunted...and what areas are not...and which could provide valuable information as to those places that might be more conducive to your own success later.
And as others have pointed out, scouting techniques and methods should always be as unobtrusive as possible, while still accomplishing the desired goals. If you are doing something that is causing problems for other hunters while scouting, you are probably doing something that is going to negatively impact your own chances later.
X2 .... AMEN ... GREAT POST ....
I do every year. But my number one priority is to do everything in my power to first make sure my youth hunter stays safe and has a good time, and second, do everything I can to put a gobbler in front of them. But my eyes and ears are always open for intel that may pay dividends later on.
But if I didn't have a youth with me, then no.
The answer is no and stay away! Let them have their time You will have enough time to scout or should have already before this weekend.
Quote from: g8rvet on February 06, 2024, 02:22:14 PM
Frequently have done this when kids were too old and now grands not old enough yet. I was scouting , which consisted of getting there fairly late and just listening from a main road with no calling or locators. Was parked on the side of the road listening to one gobble and had a father and son drive past. I flagged them down and told them to shut off engine. They did and when that bird gobbled the young man's eyes went wide open! I looked at his dad and said "Go get em". He thanked me a dozen times as they were getting ready. I sat for a minute and then drove on to another spot to listen. Did not know them and do not know if they got him or not.
Nothing at all wrong with listening and moving on, especially later in the morning. Don't block anyone in or get there too early. In my family the whole season is youth weekend anyways, so just not that big of a deal.
Even tho' I won't be out scouting the weekend of PA's youth hunt, this was a very nice thing that you did for the father & son!
No way, no how. I make darn sure my scouting is done by youth day for that reason. The youths deserve a clean shot at their quarry. God bless them, be safe and successful!
I'm gonna scout. But my scouting is done strictly with my ears, feet and binos. I do not use any calls. Park and do a lot of walking just looking for tracks and dusting areas. Our woods are so chopped up by roads you can maneuver around without interference. If a truck is parked anywhere I will pass on that spot n go somewhere else.
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No!!!!
Would yall go in the woods if another man was hunting that spot? Of course not (I hope) so why would you go in an area where a kids doing the same?
I hope I don't see someone out scouting in the woods when I take my daughter. Probably wouldn't practice our nice words with him.
I recall listening to a pod cast recently where this subject came up. If I recall there were several groups of youth/parent in this camp. All but one of the youth hunters had experienced some kind of interference by an adult scouting during the weekend.
I've had two youth hunts blown up by others .
Once some idiot shot a gobbler we where calling to as he crossed a road .
Then just last year a scouter came through the timber and messed up a hunt . I confronted him , he told me he was walking through to the private that borders the public ,,,, the only problem was my family owns the private he was headed to . I'll keep the rest of the story to myself , lol .
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Quote from: bbcoach on February 06, 2024, 01:13:45 PM
Quote from: Paulmyr on February 06, 2024, 12:29:59 PM
So what you guys are saying is the most important time to be out scouting(1 to 2 weekend's before the season) is off limits because there might be a youth hunting somewhere?
ABSOLUTELY!!!! BE CONSIDERATE!! Eat a little Crow and make time to SCOUT when the youngsters and FUTURE HUNTERS are in school. I think we call this Sportsmanship and we could All get better at it.
I'll just go to my boss and say. Hey bossman! I need some time off because I can't go scouting during my days off because it's youth weekend. C,mon man I get it. the kids have thier special weekend and thats great. Some of you are taking thing a little overboard. It's not enough they have special privileges for that weekend, but now I'm supposed to take off work and stay away from the woods because there might be a slight chance I may interrupt a kids hunt? For real? For this I'm being labeled as unsportsmanlike? Being called inconsiderate? Told to eat crow?
Maybe I was a little Over the Top Paulmyr so I'll apologize for the wording, but these young guys and gals need our support. We are losing young hunters in every state and this is one way for us to get some interest in our future, their future. If we can't mentor them and get them in front of a Thunderous Gobble, we can darn sure give up 1 day of scouting, so we don't mess up their hunt or blow an opportunity to shoot a beautiful bird. Most of us have had someone walk right into our setup without them knowing it and blow an other wise GREAT hunt and all they can say is I'm Sorry I didn't know you were here. For me, I'll stay home. Again my apologizes for the wording.
I would listen from the roads but no way I walk in the woods during youth season.
I'll say that where I hunt in Alabama we only get one Saturday for the youth hunt. I take my son and it's always my most favorite hunt of the spring. It's usually the Saturday before the opener. Once our season starts out WMA turns into a complete circus and I don't feel good about carrying any of my kids after that. We also have to quit at 1:00 so this is going to be challenging going forwards because I'm going to have two boys that are wanting to go. Anyway I appreciate all of you who are being so respectful about not interfering. If some guy hiked in and started calling to a bird we were set up on I would have to try real hard not to lose it! We haven't killed a bird yet but we have gotten to hear some gobbles and see turkeys and that was awesome. I think the r best scouting would be roasting a bird the night before. Once the craziness kicks off most of the scouting will have been in vain. Our birds are historically in the same areas and they will be there and be call shy pronto.
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I think a lot of the disagreement here is what constitutes preseason scouting for some.
I mean sitting on a road and listening for a bird to gobble and move along. Not taking up a limited access parking spot to make someone else think there is a youth there.
Walking in the woods, +/- calling is definite no bueno. Making a set up and calling a bird that a youth is working is unfathomable to me. But I would not do that preseason anyways.
No
I agree, No, we should not be out beating around in the woods.
Here is a situation for you. Large Private club, with members from around the country. Youth days are Saturday and Sunday " I lobbied for Sunday" personally. Nonresidents travel there to hunt and arrive before season from how every far away. Yes, they should feel free to go out and listen. Moving, listening, moving and listening. Just like a lot of us do.
I have no adverse feelings towards them, they pay the same dues I do! Are a member just as me. I don't think they should slide in on a gobbler, don't think they should be calling to a gobbler either. BUT, listening, heck yeah they should, I will.
What's the difference between my 2000+ member hunting club than Public. Have some respect and give the kids a day or two.
Ok so I'm gonna stick with my original statement. If your worried about ruining somebody's hunt by scouting your doing it wrong.
When I'm scouting the last thing I want to happen is to spook any turkeys. If your spooking turkeys within a month of the season your doing it wrong. 100% of the time your scouting should be done from the road if possible.
If the area is to expansive that only a small portion can be heard from the road than I have no qualms about going in. I'm not going to scour every nook and cranny. A good listening spot is all I need.
In over 3 decades of hunting not once have I ever walked in on somebody. Nor would I scouting. Either because somebody was at the gate of smallish property or because I am aware of my surroundings. I'm not just bumbling from place to place. I guarantee if I'm hunting the same woods as you the only way your going to see me is if I let you or your hunting/scouting the same way as I am which is good thing because neither one of us will be spooking the turkeys.
If you accidently walk in on somebody who is set up on a turkey it's because your moving too fast and not paying attention especially while hunting.
I don't need to know how long his beard is I just need to know he's there. A couple tracks in the soft sand on the edge of a gated road if I'm lucky some gobbles in the distance. I'll say it again, If you can't hear somebody calling to a turkey your moving to fast and most likely spooking the turkeys your supposed to be hunting in a week or 2 and messing up both of your hunts.
1 to 2 weeks before the season I'm just making sure he's around. Doesn't do me any good to know exactly what tree he's in until the night before I hunt him.
If your trying to get the lay of the land right before the season starts by walking the area you are doing it wrong. That happens in Feb when turkeys are grouped up in winter flocks or even July. Spooking turkey at this time does not matter.
Apparently there's a bit of confusion about what scouting is and/or how to do it properly.
If I'm out the weekend before the season and accidentally run into a youth group, I'm not scouting, I'm taking a nature walk and not seeing any nature because I'm moving too fast, not paying attention and probably in an area I have no business being in if my goal is not to spook any turkeys.
Not me...first if your scouting your out of the loop...im watching pinhoti project and thp dropping pins and internet sniping the cake work
If you got to really scout for turkeys that close season well that tells me all I need to know public or private....if you are that guy scouting and you have to park next to a truck and walk in on youth day your trash...if you are carrying a call your garbage...lets pressure turkeys that are already pressured...go for it....I will kill your turkeys while your at work during the week and you can blame it on the turkey turd project
I have drove 6-18 hours showed up right a day break..go in blind I'm not here for the likes or subscribes
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I agree with Paulmyr.
Youth season is the weekend before my season starts. At this point I have already found my opening morning bird by then and I just check to see if he's being hunted. If a kid kills him great! But I don't want to arrive hours before opening morning walk in the dark to hunt a ghost. Especially when I could be on another one that I have found. I'm just making sure he's there and might just sit and listen from a far distance to see which way he moves. I've never spooked a gobbler the weekend before and I've never called to one either.
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Paulmyr has it right. I think the vast majority here are on the same page. Youth weekend is just that, their chance before the professionals get in the woods and squeeze the birds till they go silent. Im not off the road the last month before youth weekend. Just making sure they are still around and no calling. Its been said here before, treat the kids as you would another hunter, respectfully. Ive seen thousands of dead gobbler pics here, I have faith in the ethical hunters here. Maybe not the "grunts", "goats" or"goofs", whoever those old fellers are. :funnyturkey: Z
Absolutely not. Let the youth enjoy their hunt.
I will be taking 2 youths again this season, so I'm glad to see how many people are being respectful to the younger hunters. If I wasn't taking the kids however, I wouldn't be tromping around out there and messing them up. Road driving however, that's OK in my book.
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Bill's so interested in this topic he posted it on 3 different boards :newmascot:
Another factor that hasn't been mentioned is the presence of other public land users. Turkey scouters during the youth season here are a drop in the bucket compared to other folks doing their thing out in our woods. Shed hunters, in particular, start in early March here and are combing the woods through mid-April or later. In addition, campers, sight-seers, and other public lands users are a constant presence.
Turkey hunters are generally at least aware of the youth season going on, and one would hope that they would avoid interfering with youth hunters. Other public land users here? Suffice it to say most of them don't give a rat's patootie if they are possibly ruining somebody's turkey hunt...and most haven't got a clue that there is even a hunt going on. To not go scouting around here because of a concern that you will somehow ruin a youth hunt is, quite frankly, ludicrous.
Sure, turkey scouters should be aware of, and respect, youth (or adult) hunters and not do things that interfere with their hunts. Around here, to think that turkey scouters are a problem for youth hunters is a major leap of logic...unless those scouters are intentionally looking to stop other folks from killing "their" turkeys before they get to hunt them, which is an entirely different issue (and is a very real concern, I suspect, in some places)
Again, if concentrations of youth hunters are such that you cannot possibly scout without interfering with someone's hunt, then absolutely stay away and find another time to scout. Painting the entire country with that "stay out of the woods during youth season" brush is an unfounded concern in many places, however. Know the circumstances that exist where you specifically hunt,...and act accordingly. It's as simple as that.
Public Lands are much more Crowded these last 10 years with Pre Season Turkey Scouters and guys setting up Trail Cameras everywhere where,I hunt in New York.I Turkey Hunt in New Jersey also. The Same.
I can only hope that no one on purpose Scouts a Big Field or Fields on the Youth Turkey Hunting day because he wants to make sure that Awesome Gobbler he has been glassing is not killed by little Bobby.
The premise of that scenario to me is flawed. No one should interfere for sure. Be considerate but who wants some moron walking through the turkey woods unnecessarily looking for tracks, scratch or droppings, adult or youth season anyway, when simple long distance or audible long range scouting should be the norm.
If an adult wants to drive around way out yonder and listen from the roads why should anyone frown on that? The guy mighta been sick, at work, dealing with an ill or deceased family member, deployed, moving, etc etc and his only time to scout is that weekend. He shouldn't look or listen around from afar? Not a well thought out question. I say this being one who takes many many kids.
The question could be posed should you interfere or be selfish. Answer is no but what about a guy just starting. A young man or lady for instance. They might not have kids and though they aren't thinking considerately just don't realize youth weekend is a thing. They also read every book that said look for tracks, scratch, droppings. Boots on the ground is the saying. I've been at this since youth seasons in my area existed and don't think this is a problem unless you like broadcasting where you hunt, hike all the time for years. Any reason you think it's so crowded where you hunt? Like NYc wondering why they're so crowded with illegals after they invite em there. Just a thought. Might want to stop inviting everyone to your woods with updates bout what you saw. You might have less company
Only if it were the absolute only time I had to go in there, otherwise no. I would not be and am not/was not one of those people that use a call to scout, I was always taught that will only educate the bird making it harder to get during the season.
Bowguy,I disagree with some of your points. Nothing new as you and,I have differed on opinions on 2 other sites.
Long range Scouting by Glassing only- even this early- I don't think so.
Quote from: quavers59 on February 08, 2024, 07:39:47 AM
Bowguy,I disagree with some of your points. Nothing new as you and,I have differed on opinions on 2 other sites.
Long range Scouting by Glassing only- even this early- I don't think so.
Of course you do. Might want to reconsider your ideas perhaps?. Might help the outcomes and lead to less crowded areas. Walking through the woods right where they are and that goes for any game buggers em up. To the new guys best If you know the area to be least as obtrusive as possible. No reason to be in there w em
This continuing discussion raises some questions in my (admittedly feeble... ;D ) mind...
I already made the point about other turkey-woods users being out there in our turkey seasons. The comments about turkey scouters interfering with youth turkey hunters make me wonder...Does that part of the country back east not have other public land users? Are turkey hunters the only ones allowed in your public areas during turkey season? Or has the east become so urbanized that non-hunting folks just don't go out in the woods?
...I was under the impression that outdoor recreation, in all its forms, was a pretty big deal in all parts of the country nowadays.
I know from my own experience that turkeys can get to be pretty smart, but I have a hard time accepting that a turkey somehow has the mental acuity to know the difference between a bird watcher, a hiker, a mushroom hunter, a shed hunter, a fisherman, or any number of other folks that might decide to hit the woods during youth season...or any other season, for that matter. I would assume that those folks exist back east...and that they are using the same woods as turkey hunters. So, unless a turkey scouter is in the woods calling (which we have already stated is a really bad idea), his impact is no more or less than any other woods user that might be wandering around out there during the youth turkey season. ...And, in fact, the turkey scouter has probably less impact than those other users because he is aware of the youth hunters while the other public-land users most likely are not...and who might just wander towards turkey calling or gobbling they hear in the woods.
So, if my assumption is correct and there is the distinct possibility that there are other folks wandering your woods during hunting seasons, how are you justifying telling turkey scouters not to do the same thing other non-hunting folks are most likely doing? The impact of scouting "properly" for turkeys is pretty much the same as these other public-land users...assuming they are out there.
I think the original point might have been clarified to state that adult hunters who go into the woods during the youth hunt to intentionally interfere or disrupt youth hunters are A-holes. That, I will agree with, but unless you live in a situation where there is nobody else wandering your public areas, I think the logic of stating that (careful) scouting during somebody else's hunting season is a "Hard No" is a stretch.
Personally, I scout before youth day. And 90% of my scouting is done from a safe distance.On youth day, I am usually busy helping a youth. Blundering through the woods and scaring turkeys right before season doesn't make much sense to me.
Bowguy- here we go again.. It all goes back to Huntingny + njwoodsandwaters where many have disagreed with you. Your responses here to me are purely personal in the Negative way. Hopefully we will both have good Success in Late April in Sussex County,NJ.
I wouldn't scout knowing a youth hunter is in there hunting. More likely than not i would have a youth with me trying to kill a bird.
Absolutely I would. I just wouldn't scout in areas where kids were hunting.
Gobblenut: Depending on the weather forecast the woods can be full of people doing exactly what you described in the Eastern US. In WV and VA I have personally seen.
It can be amazing the amount of people in the woods, especially if the mushrooms are ready.
I was taught that you DO NOT mess up any hunter. Why would any TURKEY HUNTER take a chance on messing up a child? Why would any real man TAKE A CHANCE that could even remotely mess up a child's time in the woods. THIS SHOULD NOT EVEN HAVE TO BE DISCUSSED.
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Gobblenut you left out one thing all the other users that you mentioned are not even up that early in the morning.
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I was taught that you DO NOT mess up any hunter. Why would any TURKEY HUNTER take a chance on messing up a child? Why would any real man TAKE A CHANCE that could even remotely mess up a child's time in the woods. THIS SHOULD NOT EVEN HAVE TO BE DISCUSSED.
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was taught that you DO NOT mess up any hunter. Why would any TURKEY HUNTER take a chance on messing up a child? Why would any real man TAKE A CHANCE that could even remotely mess up a child's time in the woods. THIS SHOULD NOT EVEN HAVE TO BE DISCUSSED.
Agreed!
It seems very clear to me in this thread, scouting means different things to different people and scouting tactics are different across the country.
I guarantee I can be in the area listen for a bird and see how he moves without messing up a hunter actually on the bird.
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Quote from: Upfold99 on February 10, 2024, 08:22:46 AM
It seems very clear to me in this thread, scouting means different things to different people and scouting tactics are different across the country.
I guarantee I can be in the area listen for a bird and see how he moves without messing up a hunter actually on the bird.
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This is true.
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