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Am I the only one who read through 5 pages of discussion then had to Google "Pinhoti" to find out what it was ??

All I knew about Dave Owens was that he is pretty highly competitive in the calling circuit.

I couldn't even IMAGINE sitting and watching somebody hunt turkeys on YouTube...........  I can't remember a time I was ever THAT bored.   :emoticon-animal-005:

I had to do the same!

Yet you knew who team GOATS was!!!. You have your priorities right Mr Yoder.

I think he's the guy who smokes a cigar after every turkey he kills on public land ...

Quote from: Greg Massey on February 04, 2024, 09:38:31 AM
I think he's the guy who smokes a cigar after every turkey he kills on public land ...

But there are thousands of those out there now.  :TooFunny:

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Quote from: Greg Massey on February 04, 2024, 09:38:31 AM
I think he's the guy who smokes a cigar after every turkey he kills on public land ...

But there are thousands of those out there now.  :TooFunny:
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Quote from: Greg Massey on February 04, 2024, 09:38:31 AM
I think he's the guy who smokes a cigar after every turkey he kills on public land ...

Ummmmm......... O.K.    ???

Maybe THAT"S what I been doin' wrong all these years.    ::)

The only reason I know the name is there was a similar thread as the "call thread" that's going on now about a year or 2 ago and I googled it then. ;D ;D

Quote from: captpete on February 04, 2024, 10:47:06 AM
The only reason I know the name is there was a similar thread as the "call thread" that's going on now about a year or 2 ago and I googled it then. ;D ;D

See ??

I'm behind the times AGAIN.............    ::)

Quote from: Yoder409 on February 04, 2024, 10:51:37 AM

Quote from: captpete on February 04, 2024, 10:47:06 AM
The only reason I know the name is there was a similar thread as the "call thread" that's going on now about a year or 2 ago and I googled it then. ;D ;D

See ??

I'm behind the times AGAIN.............    ::)

Well, if it's any consolation, I personally don't think you were missing anything important. ;D

Does chewing tobacco count?
I only know of the guy from here. The younger guys seem to like him, the older folks not so much. I guess that's understandable.
He evidently rubs some people the wrong way.
I too, hardly ever watch people hunt.
I did watch Zach Farmer call in a gobbler recently with that other guy, his name escapes me now.
Got me excited to bring the ole Infallible out in the field on opening day where it belongs, in honor of the great Rev. Zack's passing.
#Huntyourfarmer
#weatherpermittinglol!

Quote from: captpete on February 04, 2024, 10:57:41 AM

Quote from: Yoder409 on February 04, 2024, 10:51:37 AM

Quote from: captpete on February 04, 2024, 10:47:06 AM
The only reason I know the name is there was a similar thread as the "call thread" that's going on now about a year or 2 ago and I googled it then. ;D ;D

See ??

I'm behind the times AGAIN.............    ::)

Well, if it's any consolation, I personally don't think you were missing anything important. ;D

I'm inclined to agree.    :icon_thumright:

Does this mean I got to start buying cigars now. Jesus when does it end! :TooFunny:

Quote from: Turkeybutt on February 04, 2024, 11:35:40 AM
Does this mean I got to start buying cigars now. Jesus when does it end! :TooFunny:

That, and don't forget the requisite $65 youtube channel hero's emblazoned hoodie in the cool kid camo pattern for your selfies to post later.

Quote from: Turkeybutt on February 04, 2024, 11:35:40 AM
Does this mean I got to start buying cigars now. Jesus when does it end! :TooFunny:

Quote from: paboxcall on February 04, 2024, 11:40:43 AM

Quote from: Turkeybutt on February 04, 2024, 11:35:40 AM
Does this mean I got to start buying cigars now. Jesus when does it end! :TooFunny:

That, and don't forget the requisite $65 youtube channel hero's emblazoned hoodie in the cool kid camo pattern for your selfies to post later.

:TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:

Reckon I'll just keep smoking longbeards and NOT put them on YouTube.    :smiley-char092:

Yes indeed!!! I have been smoking a cigar after a successful turkey hunt for dang near 45 years maybe a little longer. Every once in a while I can be just sitting in the woods and I will fire one up, just because. But you can guarantee that it ain't because I seent no YouTube super star doing it.
Have a good one and May God bless y'all, Bo

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Yoder, here's my 2 cents.  This time of year, deer season is closed and it's cold outside so I can't get outside as much as I would like.  The itch is there to be in the woods, so I tend to watch a few videos to satisfy that itch, while I'm practicing my calling.  I watch the Drury's, Shane Simpson and Dave Owens to name a few.  Why you ask?  I do it for the itch but mostly I do it to learn NEW tactics, techniques and calling methods.  If you will have an open mind and pay close attention to what these videos are sharing you can glean a ton of information from calling tips, to decoy setups and woodsmanship.  Personally, I could care less where they are hunting, I'm trying to learn what they are doing or mistakes they make.  I will take this information and use it when I hunt.  If I find myself in a situation where they made a certain mistake, I do my best to remember that mistake and not make the mistake they made.  I tried Dave's purple ghost in low stretch last spring and figured out a low stretch call was perfect for taking my calling to the next level.  Great info from these guys, if you keep an open mind and apply what they are doing or mistakes they made.  I feel for the guys that have Tons of hunters fighting for and jockeying for a few hundred acres of public land to hunt on.  Very tough hunting IMO.     

Over the last few months Turkeys For Tomorrow sponsored a fund raising drawing offering several guided hunts.  The Hunting Public (the cigar smokers) was an option for a Rio hunt in Texas. I "donated" $20 to TFT for a shot at this hunt.  Be tickled to get it    Not all are so set in their ways not to see the future.  This forum does set the record for whining however. Get over it.  YouTube is here to stay.

The future is here......Mississippi non resident draws, Alabama delayed season on public and restrictive bag limits to hurt non residents.  Same for Georgia. Same for South Carolina. Tennesse moving same direction. Oklahoma shutting it down. Kansas is a draw. Nebraska is a quota. On and on  We are all adapting and frankly still doing our thing just as we have been for 20+ years prior to the loose lip phenomenon. But that doesn't mean it's ok what has happened. If it doesn't affect you then it's hard to understand or if you haven't been at this game for decades prior. But getting the message out on this issue is important. Because everytime you like. Subscribe. Donate. Support products you are literally cutting your own throat. I've killed and seen enough for many lifetimes. It's my boys that worry about now

LOL. You tube trolls are here now, jumped from one thread to another.

Get over yourself!

We also did the same thing buying name brand camo and name brand calls so those guys can rake in big bucks and afford a massive amount. Of private land to hunt.  Been happening forever.  Just a different game now.  If you had a Fred Bear bow you paid for his trip to Africa.  If you bought Mossy Oak apparel you contributed to the empire. Real tree video?    Duck Commander merch?   Not much new just a different audience.


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Quote from: g8rvet on February 04, 2024, 07:41:24 PM
We also did the same thing buying name brand camo and name brand calls so those guys can rake in big bucks and afford a massive amount. Of private land to hunt.  Been happening forever.  Just a different game now.  If you had a Fred Bear bow you paid for his trip to Africa.  If you bought Mossy Oak apparel you contributed to the empire. Real tree video?    Duck Commander merch?   Not much new just a different audience.


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I buy a lot of miss matching camo from Goodwill, so I guess i'm donating to the less fortunate ...

Camo can match?    I found some pants and shirts with a nice material that were on mega sale at a buddy of mines shop.  When I showed up at turkey camp wearing them one day my nephew looked me up and down and asked WTH?    Been hunting with him for 30 years.   He said I have never seen you wear an "outfit".   lol.  It was not a complement. 


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Quote from: Greg Massey on February 04, 2024, 07:53:45 PM

Quote from: g8rvet on February 04, 2024, 07:41:24 PM
We also did the same thing buying name brand camo and name brand calls so those guys can rake in big bucks and afford a massive amount. Of private land to hunt.  Been happening forever.  Just a different game now.  If you had a Fred Bear bow you paid for his trip to Africa.  If you bought Mossy Oak apparel you contributed to the empire. Real tree video?    Duck Commander merch?   Not much new just a different audience.


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I buy a lot of miss matching camo from Goodwill, so I guess i'm donating to the less fortunate ...

I'm pretty sure you offset that with camping out for the fox vest... hahahahah

As a beginning turkey hunter I appreciate any informative content I can find.  I watch Shane Simpson and Dave Owens for any info I can glean.  I like Dale Outdoors too.  My desire to hunt turkeys came before I discovered utube content or this forum which has been helpful but not more than utube.
I have no opinion about why turkey populations are falling but I would guess against utube being the main driver.  I am guessing that most of the utube watchers are novices like me and no real danger to turkeys or veteran turkey hunters other than getting in the way and being helpful turkey educators.  :newmascot: 

Exactly, YouTube is not the main reason. The reason every post on this forum is about YouTube is jealousy. Everyone of these guys would love to be a traveling turkey hunter fulltime and make their living off of it. If you kill a turkey differently than someone on here you're ridiculed. If you wear certain clothes you're ridiculed. The members of this forum are hilariously soft anymore. Every threads the same on here. You will get better info on YouTube cause someone may actually show it to you, and not just type about it. There's great info everywhere. But it's less and less by the day on this forum. Sad!

Seasons coming up, almost time for a new thread for all the keyboard warriors to drop the 2024 rules I should hunt by if I wanna be considered a real old school bad a$$ turkey pro like everyone on her.

PLEASE HELP!!

Pinhoti ain't perfect, heck a member on here enlightened me and showed me some problems with him and I was able to further research myself to see, I appreciated that.

With that being said let's not forget before Pinhoti was YouTube's hero he was this forums hero and a lot of you all were begging him for posts and updates like white girls waiting on iPhones to drop.

So don't act like yall are too cool for Pinhoti now cause he sells t shirts.

Bout time for a brea, eh

Very true "ky".  This forum has more know it all's than many others.  Seems to have always been that way but is getting worse.  Hunt legal, following the season's bag limits should be good enough.  It is for me.  With the big Nashville mess coming up I'll bet nobody will approach Harold Knight, any of the Primos boys, or Wadell and accuse any of them of ruining the sport with their years of videos. 
I started chasing the big birds in the late 1970s when seasons and draw numbers were very limited and the bag limit was one.  Enjoyed it then and still enjoy it now.  If my turkey hunting "career" ends up with quota hunts and one birds limits so be it.  Shorter seasons and reduced bag limits are coming.  Crying about YouTube is wasted effort.  Good luck to you in KY. 
Add - this forum has many subsections.  It needs to add a "WHINER" subsection.   :popcorn:

 :TrainWreck1:

A few casual observations I would proffer on matters such as these;
1) It seems every year about this time, we end up with a few threads that fall into a rabbit hole. ...Comes with the territory, I suppose.
2) When it happens, the forum and its members all get painted with the same brush.  We go for months mostly without problems, but as soon as a controversy arises, suddenly the entire site and its members are horrible people, somebody gets their snood in a knot, and condemns the whole bunch.  My suggestion to all..."lighten up Francises". 
3) As for the YouTubers (and others) who have made turkey hunting a job, whether they make a living at it or not,...have at it.  Although hunting in all its forms is a passion for me, I do not want it to become a job.  I had one and am done with that. ...And if I did try to make it a full-time endeavor, a) I am certain I would not enjoy it as much, and b) the other people in my life would most certainly not be happy with it.
4)  Yes, crowded woods and stress on the resource has become a problem.  It is not the result of one person doing his thing.  It is the result of many different factors that have been developing over the last five decades (if somebody needs a list, I sure many of us could provide you with one).  We aren't going back to the "good old days" fellers...and I may be wrong, but I don't think anybody out there is going to take us back just because some of us want to go. 
5) My sincere suggestion is to accept where we are (whether we like it or not), adapt, and learn to deal with it by adjusting your expectations and approach to it all. 
6) And finally, untie that knot in your snood...and learn to come here with a smile on your face and a good attitude...   :D :icon_thumright:

 :popcorn:

AMEN... Well said GobbleNut... We have this arrival of people who haven't been on the forum all year and now a couple of months before spring season they want to start labeling us who have been a part of this forum all year...  It's always fun watching the arrival of these people to the forum and having them tell us what we are all doing wrong and that we are the old majority on the forum...  So for the person who is taking a jab at me for camping out for a Fox Vest I really could care less what you think. I enjoyed every minute of the experience and would do it again camping out for the Fox Vest and if I remember correctly because i'm old, I don't remember needing to get your permission to buy the Fox Vest ....  Everyone has opinions and that's what the forum is for, for everyone to share opinions. I will hunt the way I want and I will do it in a safe and ethical way with all respect to the turkeys...

Chill out Greg, that was just a joke. I too went and got a fox vest. I found it funny considering the goodwill camo comment. All in good fun.

Quote from: kytrkyhntr on February 05, 2024, 10:10:27 AM
Chill out Greg, that was just a joke. I too went and got a fox vest. I found it funny considering the goodwill camo comment. All in good fun.

Hey it's all good ... I really do buy most of my camo from Goodwill....  The Fox Vest Experience was priceless ....Meet some awesome people ....

Quote from: GobbleNut on February 05, 2024, 09:21:30 AM
A few casual observations I would proffer on matters such as these;
1) It seems every year about this time, we end up with a few threads that fall into a rabbit hole. ...Comes with the territory, I suppose.
2) When it happens, the forum and its members all get painted with the same brush.  We go for months mostly without problems, but as soon as a controversy arises, suddenly the entire site and its members are horrible people, somebody gets their snood in a knot, and condemns the whole bunch.  My suggestion to all..."lighten up Francises". 
3) As for the YouTubers (and others) who have made turkey hunting a job, whether they make a living at it or not,...have at it.  Although hunting in all its forms is a passion for me, I do not want it to become a job.  I had one and am done with that. ...And if I did try to make it a full-time endeavor, a) I am certain I would not enjoy it as much, and b) the other people in my life would most certainly not be happy with it.
4)  Yes, crowded woods and stress on the resource has become a problem.  It is not the result of one person doing his thing.  It is the result of many different factors that have been developing over the last five decades (if somebody needs a list, I sure many of us could provide you with one).  We aren't going back to the "good old days" fellers...and I may be wrong, but I don't think anybody out there is going to take us back just because some of us want to go. 
5) My sincere suggestion is to accept where we are (whether we like it or not), adapt, and learn to deal with it by adjusting your expectations and approach to it all. 
6) And finally, untie that knot in your snood...and learn to come here with a smile on your face and a good attitude...   :D :icon_thumright:

Amen my friend.....

Quote from: Greg Massey on February 05, 2024, 09:55:00 AM
AMEN... Well said GobbleNut... We have this arrival of people who haven't been on the forum all year and now a couple of months before spring season they want to start labeling us who have been a part of this forum all year...  It's always fun watching the arrival of these people to the forum and having them tell us what we are all doing wrong and that we are the old majority on the forum...  So for the person who is taking a jab at me for camping out for a Fox Vest I really could care less what you think. I enjoyed every minute of the experience and would do it again camping out for the Fox Vest and if I remember correctly because i'm old, I don't remember needing to get your permission to buy the Fox Vest ....  Everyone has opinions and that's what the forum is for, for everyone to share opinions. I will hunt the way I want and I will do it in a safe and ethical way with all respect to the turkeys...

I sure do appreciate the fact you went out of your way to pick up a vest for your friend. A priceless memory for sure!

Quote from: GobbleNut on February 05, 2024, 09:21:30 AM
1) It seems every year about this time, we end up with a few threads that fall into a rabbit hole. ..

Yeah................  Holy crap........

The OP was pretty much (O.K......ENTIRELY) a simple, straight-forward question.  Kinda like the drive from Minneapolis to St. Paul.  But somehow we ended up in Tijuana ??    :z-dizzy:

Yowzer.........   :help:

Im headed to Cosco for more popcorn...

Quote from: idratherb on February 05, 2024, 03:00:01 PM
Im headed to Cosco for more popcorn...

I like the cheese flavor those already popped .... pick me up a bag ... Please

Quote from: g8rvet on February 04, 2024, 07:41:24 PM
We also did the same thing buying name brand camo and name brand calls so those guys can rake in big bucks and afford a massive amount. Of private land to hunt.  Been happening forever.  Just a different game now.  If you had a Fred Bear bow you paid for his trip to Africa.  If you bought Mossy Oak apparel you contributed to the empire. Real tree video?    Duck Commander merch?   Not much new just a different audience.


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Very well said.

I have a few comments on this very important issue:
#1, first and foremost, never eat microwaved popcorn, it's not good for you. And Greg, come on man,  that cheese flavoring is grown in a laboratory somewhere off the New Jersey turnpike
#2, although I did buy a Fred Bear bow circa 1980, I NEVER bought the Wango Tango album, don't put that on me, you older "people" did that
#3, the popularity of Duck Dynasty put a permanent end to my water fowling days, voluntarily of course.  While i think those guys are cool, everyone trying to be them definitely made me lose my lunch once or twice.
BTW: Good post Yoder, good post

Quote from: kytrkyhntr on February 05, 2024, 07:16:28 AM
The reason every post on this forum is about YouTube is jealousy. Everyone of these guys would love to be a traveling turkey hunter fulltime and make their living off of it.

They ain't my posts, so you may not be talking to me - maybe you meant every post about YoutTube is jealous they can't hunt for a living. 

I make and have made a very good living doing what I do, turkey hunting is one of the things I love to do, but no way in heck I would do it for a living.  Family and my job preclude that. 

If you were talking about just the YouTube bashers, then that ain't me and never mind.  I watch some.  Never to old to learn a new trick and it is just entertainment mostly.  I watch fishing videos sometimes too. 

Quote from: Zobo on February 05, 2024, 05:36:56 PM

#3, the popularity of Duck Dynasty put a permanent end to my water fowling days, voluntarily of course.  While i think those guys are cool, everyone trying to be them definitely made me lose my lunch once or twice.
BTW: Good post Yoder, good post

I would like to hang out with them (my brother in law has hung out with Willie and says he is a good dude).  He asked me if I wanted to meet him and I just said, nah, I'm good. 

I agree the duck commander craze made me less willing to fight the high school and college kids for birds, so I mostly duck hunt my yearly trip to Canada. 

Quote from: g8rvet on February 05, 2024, 08:06:56 PM
  I watch fishing videos sometimes too.

I do too, especially if they have the women in the bikinis. Does the hunting public have women in bikinis?  In Mossy Oak Original Bottomland perhaps?  If not they should get on it.
You're welcome Mr. Owens,
please don't forget my cut

Quote from: g8rvet on February 05, 2024, 08:09:23 PM

Quote from: Zobo on February 05, 2024, 05:36:56 PM

#3, the popularity of Duck Dynasty put a permanent end to my water fowling days, voluntarily of course.  While i think those guys are cool, everyone trying to be them definitely made me lose my lunch once or twice.
BTW: Good post Yoder, good post

I would like to hang out with them (my brother in law has hung out with Willie and says he is a good dude).  He asked me if I wanted to meet him and I just said, nah, I'm good. 

I agree the duck commander craze made me less willing to fight the high school and college kids for birds, so I mostly duck hunt my yearly trip to Canada.

Oh, you should definitely hang out with them if you get the chance again. Thats got to end up being a very memorable event!

Quote from: Zobo on February 04, 2024, 11:11:23 AM
Does chewing tobacco count?
I only know of the guy from here. The younger guys seem to like him, the older folks not so much. I guess that's understandable.
He evidently rubs some people the wrong way.
I too, hardly ever watch people hunt.
I did watch Zach Farmer call in a gobbler recently with that other guy, his name escapes me now.
Got me excited to bring the ole Infallible out in the field on opening day where it belongs, in honor of the great Rev. Zack's passing.
#Huntyourfarmer
#weatherpermittinglol!

you mean with mark prudhomme?

Quote from: dzsmith on February 05, 2024, 10:09:20 PM

Quote from: Zobo on February 04, 2024, 11:11:23 AM
Does chewing tobacco count?
I only know of the guy from here. The younger guys seem to like him, the older folks not so much. I guess that's understandable.
He evidently rubs some people the wrong way.
I too, hardly ever watch people hunt.
I did watch Zach Farmer call in a gobbler recently with that other guy, his name escapes me now.
Got me excited to bring the ole Infallible out in the field on opening day where it belongs, in honor of the great Rev. Zack's passing.
#Huntyourfarmer
#weatherpermittinglol!

you mean with mark prudhomme?

Yes Prudhomme, like him.

Quote from: Zobo on February 05, 2024, 10:22:50 PM

Quote from: dzsmith on February 05, 2024, 10:09:20 PM

Quote from: Zobo on February 04, 2024, 11:11:23 AM
Does chewing tobacco count?
I only know of the guy from here. The younger guys seem to like him, the older folks not so much. I guess that's understandable.
He evidently rubs some people the wrong way.
I too, hardly ever watch people hunt.
I did watch Zach Farmer call in a gobbler recently with that other guy, his name escapes me now.
Got me excited to bring the ole Infallible out in the field on opening day where it belongs, in honor of the great Rev. Zack's passing.
#Huntyourfarmer
#weatherpermittinglol!

you mean with mark prudhomme?

Yes Prudhomme, like him

was a good video. Stumbled upon it a few years ago trying to learn about using a trumpet.