Do you think a notable call maker's work is more desirable at the beginning, middle or towords the end of his "career?" Is a famous maker's earlier work or later work more valuable? Also what makes a particular makers work desirable in general for you?
In terms of financial value, I'm not sure....
I've bought multiple calls from several of my personal favorites over the years and the sound quality/ease of play just gets better and better and better the more calls they each build. So from that perspective, I'd say the later work is more valuable to me.
Most makers' calls that are collectible will bring more $$ for the early ones and the very last couple they made. Especially if they've just retired or passed away. On down the road a few years, those early and last calls will still be at a premium. But, unique combinations or limited runs they did will also pull to the top of the value chart.
I agree packmule for the most part but I think there are exceptions for collectors. I'm not a collector but I have accumulated a lot of calls so for me now, I buy and keep meaningful calls, calls that represent or remind me of something or someone. I tend to buy more calls from callmakers I like and have had memorable conversations with.
Quote from: Yoder409 on January 09, 2024, 11:16:20 AM
Most makers' calls that are collectible will bring more $$ for the early ones and the very last couple they made. Especially if they've just retired or passed away. On down the road a few years, those early and last calls will still be at a premium. But, unique combinations or limited runs they did will also pull to the top of the value chart.
Sounds right to me Yoder. Had an opportunity to buy an earlier trumpet from a very popular/famous call maker, the gentleman selling said it was worth more than his later models...now fir a collector that may or may not be true, I'm not sure. But personally for me I declined, because I just didn't like it as much as his middle/later stuff.
Quote from: Zobo on January 09, 2024, 11:27:18 AM
Sounds right to me Yoder. Had an opportunity to buy an earlier trumpet from a very popular/famous call maker, the guy selling said it was worth more than his later models...now fir a collector that may or may not be true, I'm not sure. But personally for me I declined, because I just didn't like it as much as his middle/ later stuff.
No use to pay more than you're comfortable with. Especially for a call you aren't head-over-heels for.......unless it's purely for investment. (BTW.......there's WAAAAY better investments to bank one's future on than turkey calls. :TooFunny: )
The "early, middle, late" factor can and does impact the value of collectible calls. But, bigger than that, is usually provenance. Was the call owned and/or used by someone of note ?? Was the call featured in print ?? Is there something ELSE that sets the call apart from all the others ?? ANNND.......can documentation (photo, written or other) be presented to PROVE that ??
That's interesting info Yoder. Like I suppose a Farmer trumpet would probably be significantly less valuable without the signed paperwork he sent with the horn. I know serious collectors of anything always go crazy if "the original box" is included :drool:
I always wondered if the box the call was mailed in adds any value and if I should have kept them.
What about the very last call of a famous call maker?
Most call makers are finding their way when they start, so unless you could prove a call was one of the first or something special, they should not be as valuable. To me it's more about how many were made, and what they are made from, not when they were made. Also, if a call was made for a famous person. Once a call maker has made a name for himself, the last call should me valuable, if it can be proven that it's the last call.
Quote from: davisd9 on January 09, 2024, 01:07:10 PM
What about the very last call of a famous call maker?
It's a good question, but I don't know how that could be substantiated. For example, I know I have one of the last, if not THE last Stowe call, but Lewis didn't number his calls.
Quote from: Zobo on January 09, 2024, 02:22:10 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on January 09, 2024, 01:07:10 PM
What about the very last call of a famous call maker?
It's a good question, but I don't know how that could be substantiated. For example, I know I have one of the last, if not THE last Stowe call, but Lewis didn't number his calls.
Sometimes, it can be VERY WELL substantiated. ;)
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Quote from: Zobo on January 09, 2024, 12:42:09 PM
I know serious collectors of anything always go crazy if "the original box" is included :drool:
I always wondered if the box the call was mailed in adds any value and if I should have kept them.
It DOES add value and , yes.........you shoulda kept them.
Yoder, is that the fat lady singing?
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Quote from: ol bob on January 09, 2024, 02:20:25 PM
Most call makers are finding their way when they start, so unless you could prove a call was one of the first or something special, they should not be as valuable.
Early Turpins............ Lynch calls.......... Neil Cost calls.......... Lamar Williams calls......... others.
A lot of them can be pretty accurately dated by looking at them, or have the date written on them. In each of the 4 examples above, the early calls are among the most desirable and valuable.
I think something else that hasn't been mentioned that adds value is the story behind the making of the call and the woods using in making the call. Like Bob said all of this contributes to the making and value of the call / caller... I think regardless of the first, middle last calls all depends on the call and what you like in tones / sounds ... Now I will agree that the call builder's name in itself can make a call very valuable regardless of the sounds especially if he's passed away... Also some of the call builders could only make a limited number of calls each year and his calls could cost you a premium. The waiting period could take up to 4 years from these builders...
Quote from: Greg Massey on January 09, 2024, 06:43:04 PM
I think something else that hasn't been mentioned that adds value is the story behind the making of the call and the woods using in making the call.
Good point Greg, And the overall looks and style of the call too as well as condition I'm sure.
Quote from: Yoder409 on January 09, 2024, 03:40:40 PM
Quote from: Zobo on January 09, 2024, 12:42:09 PM
I know serious collectors of anything always go crazy if "the original box" is included :drool:
I always wondered if the box the call was mailed in adds any value and if I should have kept them.
It DOES add value and , yes.........you shoulda kept them.
Yep, that's what I was afraid of :begging:
Quote from: Zobo on January 09, 2024, 08:08:25 PM
Quote from: Yoder409 on January 09, 2024, 03:46:09 PM
Quote from: Terry on January 09, 2024, 03:44:36 PM
Yoder, is that the fat lady singing?
She is.
That' is beyond awesome!!! :you_rock:
The call is actually named "The Fat Lady".
It's the official last call that Neil Cost ever made. Hence........"the fat lady sang". IIRC, it sold on eBay for somewhere in the vicinity of $11,500 over 20 years ago.
Awesome.
A great call makers calls to me are good beginning, middle and the end. Of course when they are no longer made, value increases due to simple buying opportunities. Quality well known callers that are in high demand stood the test of time through their entire life cycle......we all know who they are...
Quote from: packmule on January 09, 2024, 12:03:01 AM
In terms of financial value, I'm not sure....
I've bought multiple calls from several of my personal favorites over the years and the sound quality/ease of play just gets better and better and better the more calls they each build. So from that perspective, I'd say the later work is more valuable to me.
True....true....true!!!!!!!!
Also, the laws of supply and demand always prove true........