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Title: Kansas draw rapidly approaching
Post by: nativeks on December 23, 2023, 12:17:20 PM
The Kansas non resident draw starts in early January. Just a reminder you will have to pick a unit and you tag will only be valid in that unit.
https://ksoutdoors.com/KDWP-Info/News/Weekly-News/12-22-23-Application-Period-for-Non-resident-Turkey-Permits-to-Begin-January-9/Application-Period-for-Non-resident-Turkey-Permits-to-Begin-January-9
Title: Re: Kansas draw rapidly approaching
Post by: Neill_Prater on December 24, 2023, 11:19:55 AM
I'm still not especially pleased with this, but, they didn't ask me for my opinion. For reference, I have purchased nonresident hunting license and turkey tags in Kansas every year but one over the past three decades, starting with, if I am not mistaken, the first year nonresidents were allowed to hunt.   
                                                          I would personally have rather seen them go to a one bird statewide limit, make baiting illegal and give it a couple of years to see how that played out, but, what do I know?

I do not like the idea of having to apply for a specific unit. If they feel there's too much pressure and need to reduce hunter numbers by going to a quota system, fine, but let a guy hunt wherever he wants. My hunts there in the last dozen years or so have often been planned around the time I had available to hunt. I've hunted areas a 2 hour drive from the house, and I have hunted areas 6 hours away.

I also wish they would release the quotas they are going to allow in each unit, but it is starting to look like we're going to have to wait until January 9 to know anything. Given that Kansas was late to the party with regards to mandatory checking, I don't have a clue as to how they are making that determination, but I am sure they have it figured out.

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Title: Re: Kansas draw rapidly approaching
Post by: nativeks on December 24, 2023, 01:34:26 PM
These were the numbers they put out
Unit 1 (Northwest)- 700
Unit 2 (Northcentral)- 2400
Unit 3 (Northeast)- 2800
Unit 5 (southcentral)- 900
Unit 6 (southeast)- 2900
Title: Re: Kansas draw rapidly approaching
Post by: slave601 on December 29, 2023, 08:44:25 AM
Man this sucks so bad now. Me and a good friend have been traveling together for a few seasons now and it's been some good times hunting Kansas along with other states. Now we gotta hope we both get drawn to keep our yearly tradition alive. Has anyone seen where it will be a specific dates along with the specific units?
Title: Re: Kansas draw rapidly approaching
Post by: jhoward11 on December 29, 2023, 10:14:38 AM
Man, I hope this doesn't catch on everywhere. Headed to Kansas again this year. (MAYBE)!
Title: Re: Kansas draw rapidly approaching
Post by: Badger on December 29, 2023, 02:41:51 PM
You are right {maybe}.  This will be my 14 year if I get draw.
Title: Re: Kansas draw rapidly approaching
Post by: deerhunt1988 on December 29, 2023, 03:43:08 PM
Best way we can prevent this from continuing to happen across the nation is to NOT LIKE and NOT SUBSCRIBE and NOT FOLLOW the modern day market hunters. When travel turkey hunting became "cool" thanks to social media, non-resident restrictions followed quickly thereafter. And unfortunately there will be more states with NR restrictions in the future.
Title: Re: Kansas draw rapidly approaching
Post by: nativeks on December 30, 2023, 12:12:07 PM
Quote from: slave601 on December 29, 2023, 08:44:25 AM
Man this sucks so bad now. Me and a good friend have been traveling together for a few seasons now and it's been some good times hunting Kansas along with other states. Now we gotta hope we both get drawn to keep our yearly tradition alive. Has anyone seen where it will be a specific dates along with the specific units?
Dates will be the regular season dates. You will have to pick a unit.
Title: Re: Kansas draw rapidly approaching
Post by: Neill_Prater on December 30, 2023, 04:51:12 PM
Quote from: deerhunt1988 on December 29, 2023, 03:43:08 PM
Best way we can prevent this from continuing to happen across the nation is to NOT LIKE and NOT SUBSCRIBE and NOT FOLLOW the modern day market hunters. When travel turkey hunting became "cool" thanks to social media, non-resident restrictions followed quickly thereafter. And unfortunately there will be more states with NR restrictions in the future.
Perhaps, but we all need to remember people hunted before the Internet, and traveled to other states to do so on a regular basis. Most were doing so legally and responsibly, but not all. Same with resident hunters . Poachers and game hogs existed when I was a kid growing up, so it's not an entirely new phenomenon.

In my opinion, Kansas, like many other states where politicians have a hand in regulating things they know little or nothing about, has been slow to react to a decline in bird populations and an increase in hunting pressure and are now trying to play catch up.



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Title: Re: Kansas draw rapidly approaching
Post by: Neill_Prater on December 30, 2023, 04:53:01 PM
Quote from: nativeks on December 24, 2023, 01:34:26 PM
These were the numbers they put out
Unit 1 (Northwest)- 700
Unit 2 (Northcentral)- 2400
Unit 3 (Northeast)- 2800
Unit 5 (southcentral)- 900
Unit 6 (southeast)- 2900
Thanks for posting this. I couldn't find the numbers on their website.

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Title: Re: Kansas draw rapidly approaching
Post by: slave601 on December 31, 2023, 08:47:30 AM
Quote from: nativeks on December 30, 2023, 12:12:07 PM
Quote from: slave601 on December 29, 2023, 08:44:25 AM
Man this sucks so bad now. Me and a good friend have been traveling together for a few seasons now and it's been some good times hunting Kansas along with other states. Now we gotta hope we both get drawn to keep our yearly tradition alive. Has anyone seen where it will be a specific dates along with the specific units?
Dates will be the regular season dates. You will have to pick a unit.
I was meaning specific dates as in if you get drawn for this unit you only get to hunt like lets says a certain week. In Mississippi when you get drawn for a wma you hav to choose the dates that are available like say March 15-18th
Title: Re: Kansas draw rapidly approaching
Post by: nativeks on December 31, 2023, 07:18:18 PM
Quote from: slave601 on December 31, 2023, 08:47:30 AM
Quote from: nativeks on December 30, 2023, 12:12:07 PM
Quote from: slave601 on December 29, 2023, 08:44:25 AM
Man this sucks so bad now. Me and a good friend have been traveling together for a few seasons now and it's been some good times hunting Kansas along with other states. Now we gotta hope we both get drawn to keep our yearly tradition alive. Has anyone seen where it will be a specific dates along with the specific units?
Dates will be the regular season dates. You will have to pick a unit.
I was meaning specific dates as in if you get drawn for this unit you only get to hunt like lets says a certain week. In Mississippi when you get drawn for a wma you hav to choose the dates that are available like say March 15-18th
I know what you meant and thats why I said normal season dates.

We have been slow to react to pressure. NR waterfowlers will be regulated in 24-25 season as well. Those numbers have exploded to the point I have given up waterfowl hunting.
Title: Re: Kansas draw rapidly approaching
Post by: nativeks on January 25, 2024, 03:02:07 PM
They said demand has already exceeded supply in unit 3.
Title: Re: Kansas draw rapidly approaching
Post by: Hook hanger on February 09, 2024, 10:49:22 PM
Did I read it correctly that nonresident youth have to draw also?
Title: Re: Kansas draw rapidly approaching
Post by: slave601 on February 10, 2024, 08:05:26 AM
So yesterday was the last day to put in for the draw. I wonder when the results will be sent out???
Title: Re: Kansas draw rapidly approaching
Post by: Kygobblergetter on February 10, 2024, 09:07:52 AM
Anybody know when the drawing will be?


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Title: Re: Kansas draw rapidly approaching
Post by: GobbleNut on February 10, 2024, 09:35:07 AM
I would suspect they would have the drawing rather quickly so that those who applied will know whether they can make plans for their hunts. ...We'll see if that theory is correct... ;D

As a sidenote:  It would also be interesting to see how many nonresidents here on OG applied to hunt Kansas.  Three of us New Mexican's applied (never hunted KS before and had an invitation to go this spring)
Title: Re: Kansas draw rapidly approaching
Post by: JRICHARD9 on February 10, 2024, 09:55:44 AM
Quote from: Kygobblergetter on February 10, 2024, 09:07:52 AM
Anybody know when the drawing will be?


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read on kdwp its gonna be march but they don't have a exact date posted
Title: Re: Kansas draw rapidly approaching
Post by: slave601 on February 10, 2024, 10:17:35 AM
March???? Well that sucks. Trying to plan multiple state hunts is going to be a thing of the past before long.
Title: Re: Kansas draw rapidly approaching
Post by: arkrem870 on February 10, 2024, 10:40:07 AM
Be watching for my quota draw - tag master class on my channel. We will be discussing how we used to just go hunt but now we apply for a chance to hunt. Brought to you by onx
, mossy oak, and 100 yards easy ammo
Title: Re: Kansas draw rapidly approaching
Post by: deerhunt1988 on February 10, 2024, 11:10:51 AM
Quote from: arkrem870 on February 10, 2024, 10:40:07 AM
Be watching for my quota draw - tag master class on my channel. We will be discussing how we used to just go hunt but now we apply for a chance to hunt. Brought to you by onx
, mossy oak, and 100 yards easy ammo

Got any discount codes, bro?
Title: Re: Kansas draw rapidly approaching
Post by: Neill_Prater on February 10, 2024, 04:03:44 PM
I try not to gripe. In the whole scheme of things, a turkey hunt is not that important. That said, the KDWP, in my opinion, has handled this whole thing rather poorly, and are basically treating us nonresidents like the proverbial red headed stepchild. When I find out whether or not I am successful in getting a tag really doesn't matter to me, I am retired and the trip anywhere in my preferred hunting area is 5 hours or less, but that's not necessarily the scenario for many others.

Many have to plan months ahead for an out of state trip. At the very least, not knowing might cause one to lose an opportunity to go somewhere else until it's too late.

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Title: Re: Kansas draw rapidly approaching
Post by: arkrem870 on February 10, 2024, 04:15:58 PM
Non residents hunters have become red headed step children all over as of late. JUST ADAPT!!