Post something old, unique and lets see who knows what it is, what it was used for and who made it.
Here's the first one.
87 people looked at this and not one took a guess as to what it is and or who made it.
It is a Harley Davidson rocket engine (LR-64 Rocket Engine) that powered U.S. Navy target drones.
Harley Davidson actually built over 5,000 during a 30 year period beginning in the mid 1960s. The engines were built in the York, Pennsylvania plant.
Quote from: Turkeybutt on July 09, 2023, 09:22:55 AM
87 people looked at this and not one took a guess as to what it is and or who made it.
It is a Harley Davidson rocket engine (LR-64 Rocket Engine) that powered U.S. Navy target drones.
Harley Davidson actually built over 5,000 during a 30 year period beginning in the mid 1960s. The engines were built in the York, Pennsylvania plant.
You got us! That was a tough one.......
I just came on the forum and saw it and was thinking it had to do with some kind of compulsion. You have to understand we have a lot of lookers who don't want to participate on the forum. Then they complain because they don't have 50 posts, but want to break the rules and try to sell something.
I thought it would be fun if people posted photos of old tools or unique items they have laying around the house and see who knew what they were or how they were used. Something to do while we wait for deer and turkey season to roll around.
Quote from: Turkeybutt on July 09, 2023, 09:22:55 AM
87 people looked at this and not one took a guess as to what it is and or who made it.
It is a Harley Davidson rocket engine (LR-64 Rocket Engine) that powered U.S. Navy target drones.
Harley Davidson actually built over 5,000 during a 30 year period beginning in the mid 1960s. The engines were built in the York, Pennsylvania plant.
I have worked as a contractor at the Harley Davidson plant in York pa for the past 30 years. The original plant was owned by AMF which manufactured anything from government munitions (bombs) to bowling balls over the years. AMF purchased Harley Davidson in 1969. So if these were manufactured from the mid 60s then AMF was probably building the vast majority of these. I'm not implying Harley Davidson did not make these, but I highly doubt there is the typical Harley badge you find on their bikes on one of these.
Here's a couple of things to identify. One is very old, the other is still frequently used today.....
Star chisel
Hollow wall lead anchor set tool.
Quote from: Brian Fahs on July 09, 2023, 11:33:45 AM
Star chisel
Hollow wall lead anchor set tool.
Nice job, do you work in the trades, or have a construction background. Not many people have seen a star chisel.....
I knew it was a star chisel but couldn't think of what the other item was.
Quote from: Brian Fahs on July 09, 2023, 11:01:05 AM
Quote from: Turkeybutt on July 09, 2023, 09:22:55 AM
87 people looked at this and not one took a guess as to what it is and or who made it.
It is a Harley Davidson rocket engine (LR-64 Rocket Engine) that powered U.S. Navy target drones.
Harley Davidson actually built over 5,000 during a 30 year period beginning in the mid 1960s. The engines were built in the York, Pennsylvania plant.
I have worked as a contractor at the Harley Davidson plant in York pa for the past 30 years. The original plant was owned by AMF which manufactured anything from government munitions (bombs) to bowling balls over the years. AMF purchased Harley Davidson in 1969. So if these were manufactured from the mid 60s then AMF was probably building the vast majority of these. I'm not implying Harley Davidson did not make these, but I highly doubt there is the typical Harley badge you find on their bikes on one of these.
I went out in the garage and took this photo of the badge that is on the top of the rocket engine.
Quote from: Tom007 on July 09, 2023, 11:36:02 AM
Quote from: Brian Fahs on July 09, 2023, 11:33:45 AM
Star chisel
Hollow wall lead anchor set tool.
Nice job, do you work in the trades, or have a construction background. Not many people have seen a star chisel.....
Yes sir.
Union electrician 38 years and counting.
At 59 years of age I'm very familiar with older hand tools........lol
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Quote from: Brian Fahs on July 09, 2023, 11:01:05 AM
Quote from: Turkeybutt on July 09, 2023, 09:22:55 AM
87 people looked at this and not one took a guess as to what it is and or who made it.
It is a Harley Davidson rocket engine (LR-64 Rocket Engine) that powered U.S. Navy target drones.
Harley Davidson actually built over 5,000 during a 30 year period beginning in the mid 1960s. The engines were built in the York, Pennsylvania plant.
I have worked as a contractor at the Harley Davidson plant in York pa for the past 30 years. The original plant was owned by AMF which manufactured anything from government munitions (bombs) to bowling balls over the years. AMF purchased Harley Davidson in 1969. So if these were manufactured from the mid 60s then AMF was probably building the vast majority of these. I'm not implying Harley Davidson did not make these, but I highly doubt there is the typical Harley badge you find on their bikes on one of these.
I went out in the garage and took this photo of the badge that is on the top of the rocket engine.
Very cool. Thanks for sharing.
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Quote from: Tom007 on July 09, 2023, 11:36:02 AM
Quote from: Brian Fahs on July 09, 2023, 11:33:45 AM
Star chisel
Hollow wall lead anchor set tool.
Nice job, do you work in the trades, or have a construction background. Not many people have seen a star chisel.....
Yes sir.
Union electrician 38 years and counting.
At 59 years of age I'm very familiar with older hand tools........lol
We share common ground my friend. I retired from Electrical Union after 38 years. Great career, I really enjoyed it. Be safe, enjoy....
Okay I know its a gold ring and I took the liberty of photo-shopping out the words that ran around the outside of the ring as it would give it away. I know its over 50 years old or older.
So looking at the ring itself what is it?
I am guessing some kind of civil war commemorative ring. And that's Robert E Lee.
I'll play..
Sorry about the size..
It appears to be some type of cutter but the photo is too large to really see it well
Happy no, your wrong!
It is a cutter.. any guesses on what is was designed to cut?
Quote from: Ranman on July 09, 2023, 12:55:58 PM
It is a cutter.. any guesses on what is was designed to cut?
Barbed wire?
Quote from: Paulmyr on July 09, 2023, 01:03:20 PM
Quote from: Ranman on July 09, 2023, 12:55:58 PM
It is a cutter.. any guesses on what is was designed to cut?
Barbed wire?
No.. will let a few more guess, and then give the answer.
Hint:
People still use this product, but it is packaged differently.
Old Pipe cutter
It is a tobacco cutter. My dad sold chewing tobacco and snuff for 35 years, and collected old tobacco related stuff.
Quote from: Happy on July 09, 2023, 12:18:42 PM
I am guessing some kind of civil war commemorative ring. And that's Robert E Lee.
Happy from the sound of things I take you knew Robert E Lee personally! Just how old are you? :TooFunny:
Like I said I photo-shopped out the words around the edge of the ring which said Pope & Young
Regular Member. I thought somebody would have seen the Logo and knew what it was.
Ranman that has to be worth some money! I was trying to look at the date on the cutter but all I could make out was Dec. 1 maybe 1816
Quote from: Turkeybutt on July 09, 2023, 04:38:14 AM
Post something old, unique and lets see who knows what it is, what it was used for and who made it.
Here's the first one.
A breeding aid for horses, used to see these on some of the horse farms where I worked.
Race horses on the top row, circus ponies for the lower level
Quote from: Turkeybutt on July 09, 2023, 12:06:36 PM
Okay I know its a gold ring and I took the liberty of photo-shopping out the words that ran around the outside of the ring as it would give it away. I know its over 50 years old or older.
So looking at the ring itself what is it?
They used to put these as a prize in Quaker Oats boxes years ago, this is a sculpture of the 2 Quaker brothers that started the business
Patterned December 1, 1914. Never researched the worth, but has a lot of sentimental value.
Well, Pope don't look too young in that engraving. That's all I got to say about that. Still think it looks like General Robert E Lee.
Heck I don't even know what it is, found turkey hunting in a big field! about 10 miles from the battle of Raymond!
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Quote from: 3bailey3 on July 09, 2023, 03:04:43 PM
Heck I don't even know what it is, found turkey hunting in a big field! about 10 miles from the battle of Raymond!
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Experimental ninja throwing star. Utilized by the Union army in 1862. Think it was scrapped at the same time the two cannonballs tethered together with chain was. Apparently, timing the firing correctly was a bit dicey. One side was bound to touch it off on the two count instead of three for some odd reason.
Quote from: 3bailey3 on July 09, 2023, 03:04:43 PM
Heck I don't even know what it is, found turkey hunting in a big field! about 10 miles from the battle of Raymond!
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I'd get that checked out! That's a relic for sure...
Quote from Happy "Experimental ninja throwing star. Utilized by the Union army in 1862. Think it was scrapped at the same time the two cannonballs tethered together with chain was. Apparently, timing the firing correctly was a bit dicey. One side was bound to touch it off on the two count instead of three for some odd reason".
There is something seriously wrong with Happy!
I think with some Group Therapy, Industrial Strength Drugs and some Electrical Shock Therapy...... Happy might be able to resume his place as somewhat of a contributing member of this forum.
Electrical shock therapy is the cause of all of this. Worked as an electrician for 16 years, and I am still involved in it.
What about these two, Happy should be a easy one for you.
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Crow! You are just as bad a Happy! You two related?
Quote from: Turkeybutt on July 09, 2023, 05:17:52 PM
Crow! You are just as bad a Happy! You two related?
No but I am much better looking than him
Quote from: crow on July 09, 2023, 05:53:43 PM
Quote from: Turkeybutt on July 09, 2023, 05:17:52 PM
Crow! You are just as bad a Happy! You two related?
No but I am much better looking than him
Now children ... I'm better looking than the two of you ... LOL....
Quote from: 3bailey3 on July 09, 2023, 05:14:23 PM
What about these two, Happy should be a easy one for you.
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Easy, fancy shot glasses for cheap whiskey. They are modeled off of overhead line insulators. Each dimple is worth roughly 5k volts. Or in whiskey terms a shot. Overload it, and there will be a short circuit to ground in both instances.
Quote from: 3bailey3 on July 09, 2023, 05:14:23 PM
What about these two, Happy should be a easy one for you.
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Electric Line Glass Insulators.....
Quote from: Tom007 on July 09, 2023, 03:59:05 PM
Quote from: 3bailey3 on July 09, 2023, 03:04:43 PM
Heck I don't even know what it is, found turkey hunting in a big field! about 10 miles from the battle of Raymond!
(https://i.imgur.com/Dn8jm6W.jpg)
I'd get that checked out! That's a relic for sure...
My first thought was civil war belt buckle. But most photos I find of those showed oval buckles. But the lettering is very similar. Maybe a buckle, maybe something off a saddle or a bag?
Awesome thread. What about this thing. I found this in my papas farm a long time ago. My grandparents had passed away and I didn't have anyone that I could ask about it.
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That is very interesting but I have no idea. I'm going to put those photos on my phone and show some of my older Amish friends to see if they have any idea what that is or was used for.
Quote from: Turkeybutt on July 09, 2023, 06:36:11 PM
That is very interesting but I have no idea. I'm going to put those photos on my phone and show some of my older Amish friends to see if they have any idea what that is or was used for.
Thanks. It was obviously some kind of wheel off of something farming or gardening related but I'd love to know exactly what if anyone recognizes it. I think someone said something about a corn something or another one time but I can't remember.
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Quote from: Ranman on July 09, 2023, 12:24:29 PM
I'll play..
I am just scanning through looking at the pictures and have not read all the responses, but I worked a many a day in the tobacco fields in and around the tobacco capital of the world, Fuquay Varina, North Carolina - and that looks like an old cutter. A man has not lived until he has had a nicotine headache that usually lasted two to five days when putting tobacco up.
Quote from: aclawrence on July 09, 2023, 06:41:43 PM
Quote from: Turkeybutt on July 09, 2023, 06:36:11 PM
That is very interesting but I have no idea. I'm going to put those photos on my phone and show some of my older Amish friends to see if they have any idea what that is or was used for.
Thanks. It was obviously some kind of wheel off of something farming or gardening related but I'd love to know exactly what if anyone recognizes it. I think someone said something about a corn something or another one time but I can't remember.
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I'm not going for the wheel idea, both of them deals sticking out the side aren't centered. Maybe some type of gear or agitator?
This is a tool from my great grandfather's shop. It was hand made for a specific purpose. I think you will be able to guess the function by the design. Big points if you can guess the business for which he used it.
this is a pic of the back, not a buckle, looks like it was stapled to a strap maybe.
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yes they are glass insulators but not fake, off my Grandfathers back porch from the 60's but I might try some whiskey out of one of them but it won't be a cheap one!
What's this?
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Quote from: Paulmyr on July 09, 2023, 06:55:58 PM
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Quote from: Turkeybutt on July 09, 2023, 06:36:11 PM
That is very interesting but I have no idea. I'm going to put those photos on my phone and show some of my older Amish friends to see if they have any idea what that is or was used for.
Thanks. It was obviously some kind of wheel off of something farming or gardening related but I'd love to know exactly what if anyone recognizes it. I think someone said something about a corn something or another one time but I can't remember.
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I'm not going for the wheel idea, both of them deals sticking out the side aren't centered. Maybe some type of gear or agitator?
I agree. Gear is what I was thinking I just said wheel.
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Quote from: mountainhunter1 on July 09, 2023, 06:55:05 PM
Quote from: Ranman on July 09, 2023, 12:24:29 PM
I'll play..
I am just scanning through looking at the pictures and have not read all the responses, but I worked a many a day in the tobacco fields in and around the tobacco capital of the world, Fuquay Varina, North Carolina - and that looks like an old cutter. A man has not lived until he has had a nicotine headache that usually lasted two to five days when putting tobacco up.
Correct
Quote from: Notsoyoungturk on July 09, 2023, 07:21:10 PM
This is a tool from my great grandfather's shop. It was hand made for a specific purpose. I think you will be able to guess the function by the design. Big points if you can guess the business for which he used it.
Fencing staple puller? My first thought was horse shoeing but I wouldn't see why it would need the curved part on the end.
Quote from: Zobo on July 09, 2023, 08:01:10 PM
What's this?
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This is an illegal snood stretcher, and that's why the snood length measurement was dropped from the NWTF record book qualification
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Anyone? Anyone??? Bueller???
Quote from: crow on July 09, 2023, 09:21:56 PM
Quote from: Zobo on July 09, 2023, 08:01:10 PM
What's this?
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This is an illegal snood stretcher, and that's why the snood length measurement was dropped from the NWTF record book qualification
:TooFunny:
Quote from: aclawrence on July 09, 2023, 06:17:54 PM
Awesome thread. What about this thing. I found this in my papas farm a long time ago. My grandparents had passed away and I didn't have anyone that I could ask about it.
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This looks so incredibly familiar but I just can't place it. In my mind I want to say it is from some kind of water grist mill but I do not know that for certain even a little bit.
Quote from: aclawrence on July 09, 2023, 06:17:54 PM
Awesome thread. What about this thing. I found this in my papas farm a long time ago. My grandparents had passed away and I didn't have anyone that I could ask about it.
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Looks very similar to the wheel/crank used to open/close the irrigation weir between canals???
Quote from: aclawrence on July 09, 2023, 08:04:07 PM
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Quote from: Turkeybutt on July 09, 2023, 06:36:11 PM
That is very interesting but I have no idea. I'm going to put those photos on my phone and show some of my older Amish friends to see if they have any idea what that is or was used for.
Thanks. It was obviously some kind of wheel off of something farming or gardening related but I'd love to know exactly what if anyone recognizes it. I think someone said something about a corn something or another one time but I can't remember.
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I'm not going for the wheel idea, both of them deals sticking out the side aren't centered. Maybe some type of gear or agitator?
I agree. Gear is what I was thinking I just said wheel.
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Being offset like that makes me wonder if it was hand cranked but as I said I was to say it was something to do with a grist miss or a mill of some kind near water but I do not know why.
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That is very interesting but I have no idea. I'm going to put those photos on my phone and show some of my older Amish friends to see if they have any idea what that is or was used for.
Thanks. It was obviously some kind of wheel off of something farming or gardening related but I'd love to know exactly what if anyone recognizes it. I think someone said something about a corn something or another one time but I can't remember.
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I'm not going for the wheel idea, both of them deals sticking out the side aren't centered. Maybe some type of gear or agitator?
I agree. Gear is what I was thinking I just said wheel.
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Being offset like that makes me wonder if it was hand cranked but as I said I was to say it was something to do with a grist miss or a mill of some kind near water but I do not know why.
It's the front wheel from an antique Amish tricycle, the ridges across the face of the wheel are for traction to deal with the slick Lancaster County mud.
Quote from: Marc on July 10, 2023, 04:22:13 PM
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Anyone? Anyone??? Bueller???
It ain't my day off, but seeing as how you are in the "eye business", I am going to posit that it is an older version of some "eye inspection" apparatus. ;D
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Anyone? Anyone??? Bueller???
It ain't my day off, but seeing as how you are in the "eye business", I am going to posit that it is an older version of some "eye inspection" apparatus. ;D
I was thinking part of the thing that blew a air bubble on you eye.
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Anyone? Anyone??? Bueller???
It ain't my day off, but seeing as how you are in the "eye business", I am going to posit that it is an older version of some "eye inspection" apparatus. ;D
It is an antique retinoscope... Small mispelling or mispronounciation turns it into something completely different (i.e. NOT a rectalscope)
Thank God for that!
Did we ever figure out what this was?
Or these?
I have had the buckle about 12 years now, you guys made me join a civil war fourm, I was just now accepted to it and going to post it on there, funny the first club I was ever in, where I found the buckle was about 10 miles from the the battle of Raymond, I am now in a club that is 8 miles from the battle of Vicksburg and Sherman and his troops camped there, I have got a metal detector but have only tried it a few times, I got tired of digging beer tabs.
I found a sterling silver St Christopher's medallion with my metal detector but haven't seen it since the my woman got her mitts on it and this ring with the United States seal on it. It appears to have been gold plated and has a maroon patina. Looks like a kid was wearing it last as it's cinched pretty small. And of course plenty of can tabs and a hand full of wheat pennies.
It's the front wheel from an antique Amish tricycle, the ridges across the face of the wheel are for traction to deal with the slick Lancaster County mud.
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Now I wonder what does some city slicker from York County know about Lancaster County Mud.
The mud quality is Lancaster County is so much better due to all the cow manure we spread.
Quote from: Turkeybutt on July 12, 2023, 05:00:13 AM
It's the front wheel from an antique Amish tricycle, the ridges across the face of the wheel are for traction to deal with the slick Lancaster County mud.
Now I wonder what does some city slicker from York County know about Lancaster County Mud.
The mud quality is Lancaster County is so much better due to all the cow manure we spread.
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You Lanc. Co. boys do know how to spread it :D
I've cleaned enough of your counties mud off of horse hooves to build an adobe house
VERY cool thread!!!! I have some old tools that I got from my dad that probably belonged to my grandpa. I wish I had something to post, but what I have are very easily recognizable...hammer, wrenches, brace & bits, wooden folding tape measure, etc.
Sorry was away a few day and forgot to check back in on this. It's a Larding Needle. Chefs attach thin strips of fat to it (usually seasoned and marinated pork fatback) and then run it through very lean cuts of meat before roasting. The technique is called Larding a roast and is not unlike what some bbq cooks do with a flavor injecting syringe. It adds moisture, tenderness and flavor to notoriously lean and difficult to roast cuts of beef, veal, poultry, game etc. And no , I haven't used it on wild turkey but in the right hands I'm sure it could work really well.
Ps: Barding is a similar technique to Larding, where thin sheets of fatback are sliced and used to cover leaner meats to keep them moist while cooking. I'll bet many of you use this technique when you wrap a backstrap, duck breast or turkey breast meat in bacon!
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Good to know as that one had me stumped and I would have never given Larding a thought.
Quote from: 3bailey3 on July 11, 2023, 07:19:16 PM
I have had the buckle about 12 years now, you guys made me join a civil war fourm, I was just now accepted to it and going to post it on there, funny the first club I was ever in, where I found the buckle was about 10 miles from the the battle of Raymond, I am now in a club that is 8 miles from the battle of Vicksburg and Sherman and his troops camped there, I have got a metal detector but have only tried it a few times, I got tired of digging beer tabs.
You should watch some of the aquachiggers videos on YouTube. He's a pro at metal detecting civil war stuff.
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My grandfather made custom golf clubs. He made this tool so he could bend the necks on the irons. It gave him the leverage to set the loft and lie.
Pretty cool! That's a Keepsake for sure.
What is this?
No, not a skate key.
The Key to turkey hunting success??
No Sorry Tom.
Great thread Steve....interesting things......
I thought some old Railroad worker would have posted the answer.
It is a switch key the C A on it denotes what railroad it came from. I believe that particular key comes from the Chicago and Alton Railroad. I don't know what it would go for if you were to sell it. I seen them from $50.00 and up and depends on their rarity.
A good example is the South Pacific Coast Railroad car switch key from the 1800's. I seen that selling for $1,000.00 on the internet.
What is it? A friend had one of these laying around her house and asked me if I could find out what it was.
I did some looking and I now know what it is, do you?
If I had to guess I'd say it looks like the tip of a harpoon.
Paulmyr you are right. It is a form of harpoon.
Know as a Bomb lance
A bomb lance is a projectile weapon used in whaling to injure and kill the object of the hunt. As the name implies, it explodes once it has embedded itself into a whale.[1] The conditions of whale hunting in the arctic led to the invention of the bomb lance.[2] There, the presence of ice floes provide cover for whales to dive under, making it nearly impossible to execute a hand lance kill before the whale can escape. With bomb lances, a well directed shot assures a quick kill.
Why the woman I knew had this Bomb Lance in her home I'll never know as she passed away soon after she gave it to me to research for her.
Lucky for me it wasn't live as I tossed it in my truck and dropped it on my garage floor a few times before I knew what it was!
It was shot out of a hand held weapon like the one in the photo below.
I bet a tss Lance would have resulted in one-shot/no flop kills every time.
Happy you might be on to something there!
Okay what is it, what did it come off of and what was it used for?
Similar to an old gunsight, but the long crossbar wouldn't be on there. So I'll guess part of an old surveyor's transit.
I will give people two more chances to see if anybody comes up with it.
long range aperture sight for the tss bomb tipped WW Greener whale harpoon gun.
note the flip up 2nd peep sight with the larger hole for hunting whales in the dim light of an arctic winter
It is a Japanese WWII Arisaka 7.7 MM rifle "antiaircraft sight"
The sight is graduated out to 1,500 meters. However, the addition of two wings that fold down have notches numbered 1, 2, and 3(in hundreds of nautical miles per hour). These are referred to as anti-aircraft sights and were designed to give the "lead" necessary to hit an attacking aircraft while shooting from trenches.
Turkeybutt,
That is a fascinating explanation and an interesting piece of history. Thank you for sharing
Quote from: NCL on July 24, 2023, 11:12:06 AM
Turkeybutt,
That is a fascinating explanation and an interesting piece of history. Thank you for sharing
His explanation is actually a big mound of bovine gastronities, if you look close you can see where he superglued this sight onto that rifle.
The Greener harpoon gun is the correct answer, I believe Henry Davis even covered this in his book when he described how he attached one to his sxs for deer hunting
I thought it was for shooting turkeys in a corn trench with a modified choke. The "wings" of the sight are meant to be brackets to cover the trench to show the shot coverage.
Carbide tipped corn trenching shovels never go out of style.
OMG It's like dealing with juveniles!
I tried to give you a little history but I see I better keep things simple. You boys are a hoot!
Quote from: Turkeybutt on July 24, 2023, 03:46:36 AM
It is a Japanese WWII Arisaka 7.7 MM rifle "antiaircraft sight"
The sight is graduated out to 1,500 meters. However, the addition of two wings that fold down have notches numbered 1, 2, and 3(in hundreds of nautical miles per hour). These are referred to as anti-aircraft sights and were designed to give the "lead" necessary to hit an attacking aircraft while shooting from trenches.
I googled it. In the photos, the sights had the "wings" straight out to the sides. Maybe that's the source of confusion. :toothy12:
Quote from: Turkeybutt on July 24, 2023, 07:31:06 PM
OMG It's like dealing with juveniles!
I tried to give you a little history but I see I better keep things simple. You boys are a hoot!
Hey Man, good thread, I don't care what the rest of this place says about you, keep up the good work.
I was just shooting yesterday and a friend brought along an old Arisaka his dad brought home from the war. It still has the dust cover on it covering the action, which from what he said is supposed to be somewhat rare.
I sent him a couple of pics of the sight you posted.
Please! I enjoy a good laugh as much as anybody and the three of you always give me a chuckle or two when reading your remarks.
I know everyone was kidding and I didn't think anything of it, but I had to add some type of rebuttal. I thought it was cleaver of me to call the three of you ( You, Happy and Tal) juveniles. LOL
At the end of the day we here at OG are family.......maybe dysfunctional and somewhat delusional but we are still family!
Your friend who has an Arisaka is correct it is rare to find one with the dust cover as most Japanese soldiers tossed them away.
Did you happen to notice if the rifle still had the chrysanthemum seal still on the top of the receiver?
Juvenile? Yes I am. I will even take irascible. Just don't call me a nitwit!
You guys have me rolling on the floor .... :TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
Quote from: Turkeybutt on July 25, 2023, 04:10:25 PM
Please! I enjoy a good laugh as much as anybody and the three of you always give me a chuckle or two when reading your remarks.
I know everyone was kidding and I didn't think anything of it, but I had to add some type of rebuttal. I thought it was cleaver of me to call the three of you ( You, Happy and Tal) juveniles. LOL
At the end of the day we here at OG are family.......maybe dysfunctional and somewhat delusional but we are still family!
Your friend who has an Arisaka is correct it is rare to find one with the dust cover as most Japanese soldiers tossed them away.
Did you happen to notice if the rifle still had the chrysanthemum seal still on the top of the receiver?
knew you were kidding, seen it right off, not enough dirt pilgrim.
yes it has the chrysanthemums on it, he said they threw the cover away because it rattled, too noisy for war
I think a fellow would be making it pretty clear he was serious if he showed up to duck camp with that apparatus duct taped to his benneli
Quote from: Happy on July 25, 2023, 05:03:38 PM
I think a fellow would be making it pretty clear he was serious if he showed up to duck camp with that apparatus duct taped to his benneli
The trick when using it for duck hunting is to wait til most of the heads are up and not under water looking for the corn!
The rifle was stamped on the receiver with a sixteen-petal chrysanthemum. The chrysanthemum stamp showed the rifle was manufactured for the Imperial Japanese Army and therefore belonged to the Emperor.
The Japanese felt that surrendering a rifle bearing that mark showed "disrepect" to their "Emperor"; therefore, rifles which were surrendered as part of an agreement were normally "demilled" by having the mums ground off. A rifle with a grounded off crest meant it was a turned in rifle, unground meant a captured rifle from the field.
You can still find rifle's with the chrysanthemum on the receiver but they bring a higher price.
crow if you can skin a Griz I have a chore to take care of, I'll be right back... :TooFunny: Don't be jumping up in a blizzard.
Quote from: tal on July 25, 2023, 10:16:48 PM
crow if you can skin a Griz I have a chore to take care of, I'll be right back... :TooFunny: Don't be jumping up in a blizzard.
I have skinned a number of blackbear, but never a grizz. I was froze to a rubber poncho once laying on the ground in the goose decoys in a snowstorm, wish I was that young again
There is a pretty good pod cast of old liver eatin Johnston on youtube--- on Wild West extravaganza
I have! A Griz, Black bear and a Polar bear.... Oh wait; that was at Build a Bear .... Sorry!
:TooFunny:
a polar bear fell on me and I didn't see nothing.