Looking for list of shotguns that have a thumb safety. I use to hunt mossberg 935 loved that thumb safety great for turkey hunting. Went to a benelli super black eagle with pistol grip and that safety is hidden. Have to take your hand off gun find it use two fingers to eliminate loud click. Don't understand why they don't do tang safety on more turkey guns.
I grew up with the Mossberg tang safety on the 500s. It's my preference as well. I do have an 835 pistol grip Turkey gun and do not find it ergonomic.
If you were raised with the 870, you hate the tang safety!!
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I agree i hate the tang safety ...
Mossberg or BPS. Always been a big fan of the thumb safety for turkey hunting.
Quote from: krm944 on May 07, 2023, 07:40:51 AM
I grew up with the Mossberg tang safety on the 500s. It's my preference as well. I do have an 835 pistol grip Turkey gun and do not find it ergonomic.
If you were raised with the 870, you hate the tang safety!!
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If you're talking about a perpendicular pistol grip, use of a tang safety inefficiently requires you to move your hand from the grip (unless you have freakishly long thumbs). With virtually any other grip style, a tang allows use only of the thumb minimizing movement and tends to be quieter when shifting to the fire position. Conventional safeties that are integrated into trigger guards can be activated to "fire" positions using a single digit but I've never used one that didn't have an excessively loud click if you used only your trigger finger. Because of this I've always found it necessary to use both my index finger and thumb to dampen the noise. The downside of that is that it inefficiency requires me to move my strong hand from the grip. Excess movement is not good.
Quote from: krm944 on May 07, 2023, 07:40:51 AM
I grew up with the Mossberg tang safety on the 500s. It's my preference as well. I do have an 835 pistol grip Turkey gun and do not find it ergonomic.
If you were raised with the 870, you hate the tang safety!!
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You are right...I grew up with an 835. Mossberg makes good turkey guns
Mossberg's shotguns that aren't Turkish made (the SA series guns) all have a tang safety. Browning BPS also have the tang safety. Some old New Haven/Westernfield that were manufactured by Mossberg will as well.
I'm not sure whether I prefer tang over trigger guard, but I am a little partial to the tang being that my first turkey gun was a Mossberg 500 20 gauge. Not sure if it's a preference though, as I love a good Remington 870.
Worst gun I ever had was an automatic Mossberg. The pumps are reliable guns and the 835 will kick your face in.
I am a lefty.
I started with a 835 on their first model " Tang Safety" got rid of that and went to a BPS "Tang Safety".
My sons Benelli M2 has a behind the trigger safety. I hate it! I am 35 years into a tang safety, what would you expect???
IMO, tangs are far superior.
Quote from: Bedge7767 on May 07, 2023, 02:31:08 PM
Worst gun I ever had was an automatic Mossberg. The pumps are reliable guns and the 835 will kick your face in.
I would debate this opinion on account that the recently released Mossberg 940 Pro Turkey's are some of the finest built turkey guns ever made, especially the 18.5" barrel model. If you find yourself in the market for another turkey gun in 12 gauge, it's definitely one to consider.
The 5500, 9200, and 935's have certainly been hit or miss over the years, I will agree with you on that.
I have two shotguns with pistol grips and safety is behind the trigger. With my hand in the ready position on the grip, and my index/trigger finger pointed straight towards the muzzle, the safety hits the palm side of my first knuckle from the hand. Keeping my finge straight, I can push off the safety with no click. Finger never touches trigger till ready to shoot. I also oil the safety and work it back and forth several times to smooth it up.
Randy
I'm not a fan of tang safety. Have a Mossberg with a tang safety that from time to time if I have it over my shoulder on a sling the safety gets knocked off not sure exactly how.
Quote from: HookedonHooks on May 07, 2023, 05:03:16 PM
Quote from: Bedge7767 on May 07, 2023, 02:31:08 PM
Worst gun I ever had was an automatic Mossberg. The pumps are reliable guns and the 835 will kick your face in.
I would debate this opinion on account that the recently released Mossberg 940 Pro Turkey's are some of the finest built turkey guns ever made, especially the 18.5" barrel model. If you find yourself in the market for another turkey gun in 12 gauge, it's definitely one to consider.
The 5500, 9200, and 935's have certainly been hit or miss over the years, I will agree with you on that.
This wasn't an opinion. It was the worst shotgun I've ever had.
I personally hate tang safety's on shotguns. People always talk about trigger guard safety's being loud. I've never personally heard one loud enough to spook a turkey at 30 yards. Sure, you may think that it's loud when you snap it off a foot from your ear. Also, there is always the 2 finger option already mentioned if you're concerned about it. If you have a particularly stiff tang safety it's not only going to be just as noisy, but require more force and movement to disengage. Just my opinion
Behind the trigger safeties are most common because it's the cheapest way to do it. Economy is the only reason. Most shotguns, especially those sold to Americans are made cheaply as possible even when dressed up and sold as high end. So, most people start out with the most common type of safety.
Tang safeties are superior for all the obvious reasons. However, a pig will fight you to stay in a sty. Mud and filth are what it is used to. Pigs just don't know any better.
NDZ makes an upgrade if you're into something like that.
Quote from: howl on May 07, 2023, 08:03:02 PM
..., a pig will fight you to stay in a sty. Mud and filth are what it is used to. Pigs just don't know any better.
:z-winnersmiley: Well put and colorful description of what are known as endowment or mere ownership effects. Seems to describe most product discussions here.
Quote from: howl on May 07, 2023, 08:03:02 PM
Behind the trigger safeties are most common because it's the cheapest way to do it. Economy is the only reason. Most shotguns, especially those sold to Americans are made cheaply as possible even when dressed up and sold as high end. So, most people start out with the most common type of safety.
Tang safeties are superior for all the obvious reasons. However, a pig will fight you to stay in a sty. Mud and filth are what it is used to. Pigs just don't know any better.
We will definitely have to agree to disagree on that!! Trigger safety's are more foolproof and solid in design. They literally block the trigger. And it's not just an American feature! Beretta and benelli( and all their sub companies) use trigger guard safety's. Mossberg and browning are really the only tang safety shotguns in popular production. And the brownings are only on the bps!
I have tangs on all my O/U and a behind trigger on my SA 459. If the turkey hears the safety, it will be the last thing he hears. Most times I don't even recall taking it off. As long as the safety works, it does not matter much where it is to me.
polk stocks with hammers and Remington's with the slide bar safety is about all I've ever used. I did modify the safety springs on the Remington's to quiet it down a bit. safety still does the job perfect but without that horrible snap sound when pushing it off.
Quote from: howl on May 07, 2023, 08:03:02 PM
Tang safeties are superior for all the obvious reasons. However, a pig will fight you to stay in a sty. Mud and filth are what it is used to. Pigs just don't know any better.
Ever had an accidental discharge from a gun with a tang safety while walking through brush? I have and it's eye opening to say the least.
I've used guns over the years with tang safeties, & push button safeties front & back of the trigger guard. I prefer the ones on the trigger guard myself but it's mostly what you get used to. I'm perfectly happy with the one on my 870 Express.
I like a rear trigger guard safety but it's what ever you get used to. I don't like it with a pistol grip as said before it requires a lot of movement for a quiet push. I once had my old 870 scare a bird that was probably 80-100 yards. Never again will I just push it off without doing the two finger quiet punch.
I have not had a tang safety accidentally discharge but that would be a deal breaker for me. I do have several guns with rear trigger safety and the one with a pistol grip annoys me. I will be changing out the pistol grip because of that issue and to enhance ease of carry. Love the gun otherwise.
I prefer Chevys. :OGani:
I took have never had one to accidentally discharge.
Most likely due to it being place on fire and not noticed. I do not see how one would gravitate UP. Or, get accidentally pushed up, I do see someone forgetting or not checking while loading.
Never had a problem with safety and pistol grip stocks and I've been using them for YEARSSSS ....
Quote from: WV Flopper on May 08, 2023, 07:08:17 PM
I took have never had one to accidentally discharge.
Most likely due to it being place on fire and not noticed. I do not see how one would gravitate UP. Or, get accidentally pushed up, I do see someone forgetting or not checking while loading.
The Ruger Red Label I used to own had an automatic safety that engaged when the breach was opened. Not possible for me to load it and forget the safety. The small wood lot we pushed had no birds in it so no reason for the safety to be off other than from being put on my shoulder or from brush catching and moving it as the gun was never mounted. Didn't really break my heart when it was stolen.