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Title: Permethrin
Post by: 2flyfish4 on April 21, 2023, 01:29:04 PM
Anyone else wary of this stuff? Like I know it works and is the best product for ticks, chiggers and keeping bugs off you. But dang as lethal as it is to those insects, I cant keep myself from thinking what is it doing to your own cells...

Its kinda like roundup, I've used that stuff around the farm my whole life. Now its linked to cancer, which is no suprise considering how it killed grass and weeds.

Just won't be suprised to see permethrin linked to cancer one day down the road.....
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: roberthyman14 on April 21, 2023, 01:37:28 PM
If its not banned in other countries it must be ok. U.S. doesn't ban anything thats harmful.  All about the dollar.  We are all gonna die of cancer unfortunately. Just depends on how we get it.  I spray chemicals almost daily.  I can only protect myself so much.  So permethrin doesn't worry me to much. 

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Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: grayfox on April 21, 2023, 01:46:22 PM
I spray it on my hunting clothes & vest or soak them in it. I let them dry usually at least a day or two before using them. Been doing this for 5-6 years or more. I haven't got a tick on me since doing this. I haven't noticed any problems so far.
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: tal on April 21, 2023, 01:49:22 PM
 You can be sick for years from ticks too.
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: Greg Massey on April 21, 2023, 02:03:22 PM
I have sprayed my hunting clothes for years using the stuff... Great product in my opinion ...
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: Zobo on April 21, 2023, 02:17:01 PM
It's actually considered very safe and has been used for 50 years. I like it because it works dry so it never touches my bare skin while wet. I use it and deet also. Deet worries me more.
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: Ol Timer on April 21, 2023, 03:12:00 PM
I had Lyme disease many years ago trust I rather deal with cancer than go through that pain again, there is a new tick pathogen that will actually kill you now!! Permethrin is safer than a tick or chigger problem.
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: Turkeybutt on April 21, 2023, 03:25:07 PM
I use it and it works. Never had a problem with it . Make sure you dilute it and you should be okay. I always let it dry when sprayed on my clothes.
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: husker on April 21, 2023, 04:01:17 PM
Agree with others.  I've used it for years without any problems.  I don't even THINK about Ticks anymore.  I swear by the stuff. 
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: Paulmyr on April 21, 2023, 11:07:38 PM
Permethrin is a synthetic version of a natural extract from the Chrysanthemum flower.
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: Marc on April 22, 2023, 01:15:27 AM
https://nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/3422.pdf
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: BennieGobbler on April 22, 2023, 03:57:32 AM
No ticks is all that matters with this product. It works!!


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Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: Flatsnbay on April 22, 2023, 09:00:14 AM
I try to only spray it on the outside of my clothing and avoid any places that contact skin, just in case!

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Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: Yoder409 on April 22, 2023, 10:57:03 AM
I'm more afraid of Lyme disease, DTV, alpha-gal syndrome and other tick-borne diseases than I am of permethrin.
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: bwhana on April 22, 2023, 12:15:25 PM
Wear rubber gloves and avoid skin contact or breathing the spray with wet permethrin.  After it has dried, it cannot be absorbed by the skin and safe for all clothing use.

https://health.maryland.gov/phpa/IDEHASharedDocuments/permethrin.pdf
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: TScottW99 on April 22, 2023, 12:58:06 PM
I use it, just bought a new bottle. Let it dry and it won't harm you. Our hunting lease is the Mecca for chiggers and ticks, all my hunting clothes gets sprayed.
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: bbcoach on April 22, 2023, 01:33:44 PM
Quote from: Yoder409 on April 22, 2023, 10:57:03 AM
I'm more afraid of Lyme disease, DTV, alpha-gal syndrome and other tick-borne diseases than I am of permethrin.
This!!!!  We can WHAT IF this until we're Blue In The Face but this stuff WORKS!  Everything we eat, drink and use, COULD cause this or that but we have to weigh the benefits verse the risk.  I personally believe once this is applied to your clothes and it drys, the Benefits far surpasses the Risk of contacting this or that.  I'll continue to use it as long as I can buy it.  NO TICKS or CHIGGERS for me.
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: BBR12 on April 22, 2023, 01:47:13 PM
It's obvious you shouldn't worry about your health from chemicals based on these responses. However, I too am leery of it. I spray my snake chaps heavy on the outside and my boots also below them. I occasionally spray a light coat on my clothes and I never have ticks or chiggers. I'm not soaking my clothes in the stuff unless I go somewhere and what I already do isn't enough.

To say you would rather have cancer than Lyme disease is just crazy. I don't want it either so I use permethrin but with caution cause I definitely don't want cancer.

My friends dad never had an issue with tobacco until he now has stage 4 cancer and they cut his face off this week.

I know you gonna throw a fit about the previous statement not being relevant but tobacco was prescribed by doctors back in the day.

It's natural you say, well so is the Uranium 235 that makes nuclear power.
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: Paulmyr on April 22, 2023, 04:43:26 PM
Worked for a contractor that was getting seriously ill. He didn't look so good and I asked him what was wrong. He explained to me the doc said he had some sort of strange disease and didn't gave him more than a year to live.

About a year later our company got another job from this contactor and I was surprised to see how well he was doing. I asked him what gives? His reply was when I heard the news from the doc last year I started smoking again after having quit for some time. He figure why not since was dying anyways

The last trip to the doc had his disease in remission. The doc asked him what he was  doing different. The guy replied nothing but started smoking again. Doc said you keep smoking!!

Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: Zobo on April 22, 2023, 05:03:13 PM
Quote from: bbcoach on April 22, 2023, 01:33:44 PM
Quote from: Yoder409 on April 22, 2023, 10:57:03 AM
I'm more afraid of Lyme disease, DTV, alpha-gal syndrome and other tick-borne diseases than I am of permethrin.
This!!!!  We can WHAT IF this until we're Blue In The Face but this stuff WORKS!  Everything we eat, drink and use, COULD cause this or that but we have to weigh the benefits verse the risk.  I personally believe once this is applied to your clothes and it drys, the Benefits far surpasses the Risk of contacting this or that.  I'll continue to use it as long as I can buy it.  NO TICKS or CHIGGERS for me.


Yes absolutely, unfortunately I have no choice. I hunt in boggy swamp land and you WILL be eaten alive very quickly without protection. Permethrin and 40% deet at a minimum after rain. Your thinking 25% deet,? you will be laughed at and completely attacked!
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: 762hunter on April 23, 2023, 09:20:47 AM
Quote from: Paulmyr on April 21, 2023, 11:07:38 PM
Permethrin is a synthetic version of a natural extract from the Chrysanthemum flower.
I did not know that.
Thanks for sharing


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Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: 762hunter on April 23, 2023, 09:23:28 AM
Quote from: Flatsnbay on April 22, 2023, 09:00:14 AM
I try to only spray it on the outside of my clothing and avoid any places that contact skin, just in case!

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Oh I hang everything up and spray it inside and out. 
Can't stand those things and the bites last weeks.   


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Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: appalachianassassin on April 25, 2023, 06:05:33 AM
A buddy and I went to Ohio last august to scout for deer, he had on permethrin and i didn't. He had 0 ticks on him and I had 6000 seed ticks estimated by my doctor. Never again will I go into the woods during warm weather without permethrin.
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: tracker#1 on April 25, 2023, 11:50:01 AM
I buy "Martins 10%" concentrate at Tractor Supply or Amazon. I do the 5-gallon pail soak following the directions. Ring clothes out with rubber gloves and let them air dry, out of the sun, in the garage. What's left in the pail goes into a spray bottle for a touch-up. I've been doing it for years. Much cheaper than Swayers, same results...
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: Gooserbat on April 25, 2023, 12:22:40 PM
I've had Lyme's d disease.  I'll spray, in fact I might drink it.
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: Greg Massey on April 25, 2023, 12:32:01 PM
Regardless of the price of a squirt bottle or Spray bottle that's already mixed, i have no problem paying for it, if i'm hunting with a 10 dollar TSS Shell... I see no reason to make my own for now....
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: bbcoach on April 25, 2023, 07:05:46 PM
Here you go,  https://www.walmart.com/ip/Harris-Hand-Held-Pump-Sprayer-for-Garden-Home-and-Auto-55-fl-oz/983962036?athcpid=983962036&athpgid=AthenaItempage&athcgid=null&athznid=siext&athieid=v0&athstid=CS055&athguid=SX2zVppJnnxYZRAakFgGCP3aMgsCPtARsm1w&athancid=297622039&athposb=0&athena=true

Mix 1oz. to 19 ozs of water, hang everything up and spray away.
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: WV Flopper on April 25, 2023, 08:16:20 PM
 I use it,  but I am scared of it's long term effects.

As others, I haven't had a tick while wearing treated clothes.

With all the tick diseases I am thinking the spray may be the lesser of the evils, for now.
Title: Permethrin
Post by: worth612000 on April 25, 2023, 08:44:35 PM
Y'all need to stay protected. I live in Ga and have removed 6-8 ticks over the years that lightly attached due to I slip up and got to woods without spray. The last 2 really made me sick and was treated with antibiotics. The 1st of the 2 left a weird discolored raised area on my back and after 8 years shows no sign of blending in.
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: Kylongspur88 on April 25, 2023, 09:01:53 PM
I wear rubber gloves when I spray the outside of my clothes and let them dry for a few days. One spray lasts the entire spring season. Diseases like Lyme and alpha gal scare me way more
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: Sloppy snood on April 29, 2023, 06:40:56 AM
I've had the same concerns  but lymes no joke either I works and works well so I'll keep using it.
It's good to see a product do what it's supposed to.
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: Ohiowoodchuck on April 29, 2023, 09:37:09 AM
Rhynoskin makes a good light weight pants and shirt you put on before you put on your hunting clothes. I've had mine for several years now and don't have no issues with ticks or chiggers.
Title: Re: Permethrin
Post by: zelmo1 on April 29, 2023, 04:52:01 PM
Follow good hygiene and handling instructions. I won't hunt without it.  :z-twocents: Z