Hey guys. Saw this on another forum. A couple of YouTubers that go by running wild outdoors supposedly went on a WMA called raccoon creek in North Alabama and filmed a hunt. Problem was this WMA was closed to turkey hunting. They uploaded the video to YouTube. A few guys that are very familiar with that WMA knew right off the exact spot that the bird was shot. Clicked on video link and it was turned to private so I could not see it. It was too late for them because some them Alabama fellas had already forwarded it to a couple of game wardens. Anybody know anything about it?
Yeah I saw that Jody, even if they didn't know, which is hard to believe, ignorance of the law is no excuse! Those Bama boys were all over that!
Sounds like running from the law outdoors
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Quote from: 3bailey3 on April 17, 2023, 08:31:48 PM
Yeah I saw that Jody, even if they didn't know, which is hard to believe, ignorance of the law is no excuse! Those Bama boys were all over that!
Their first sign should have been empty parking lots and no vehicles at the gates lol. They about to get hammered.
QuoteThey about to get hammered.
I bet they just go over to the circuit clerks office, plea, pay a fine for hunting closed land. Unless there is more to the stoy.
"We're a group of public hunters who have the drive to do whatever it takes to succeed."
Quote from: Dazzler on April 18, 2023, 08:00:59 AM
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The empty parking lot should have been a giveaway. I accidentally did something similar one time. I went with two friends to a WMA that opens later in the year for deer hunting. It always opens later than all the other surrounding WMA's. We got there and no one else was at the gate. After an hour or so one of them got to looking at the regulations and realized we were a day early. We booked it back to the truck and got out of there pronto lol.
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Some of our fellow turkey hunters are derelicts. They have to be held accountable.
The old saying no ignorance for the law .... they are in trouble .... :fud:
What is the fine for hunting in a closed WMA and the fine for an illegal gobbler? I would assume it would be 2 seperate fines.
I could see it being an honest mistake. Sunday morning I went to a National forest spot about an hour from the house I've hunted the last several years. I've seen at most 2 other guys in there, locals, and we each have our own area we like to hunt. Pull up at 5:30 Am and this place was loaded, couldn't even pull in to turn around. So I'm headed to my fall back place and I notice another piece of National forest that no one is parked at, I figured it was because it was calling for 40 mph and wind and the only way to hunt the place is park on a small pull off that is basically in a ditch beside someone's yard and go straight up a 1200+ ft "mountain" side to get to where you can hunt. I get to the top and notice a barbed wire fence. I pull up my HuntWise app to see if those are remnants of an old property line or if that's an actual property line to private land. When I do that, the map shows red lines all through the area. I pull up the info on it, and it shows it as a "pioneer weapons area" meaning only archery, crossbow, or muzzleloader. And there I was with my 835. So I had to come right back down that side and go elsewhere. Had I not hit that fence at the top, I'd have never thought to look considering the sign showed National forest and directly across the road was more National forest that was open to "modern" weapons and neither were marked any differently on the signage.
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Raccoon creek does not allow turkey hunting at any time. Map looks like they probably access from the river. No way it was a mistake given all the electronics and pins being dropped these days. Either intentional or they just heard a bird from the boat, saw it was a WMA and didn't read the rest. Either way I'm curious as to the end result. It's gotta be hefty to discourage future attempts by others.
Quote from: ScottTaulbee on April 20, 2023, 09:43:08 AM
I could see it being an honest mistake. Sunday morning I went to a National forest spot about an hour from the house I've hunted the last several years. I've seen at most 2 other guys in there, locals, and we each have our own area we like to hunt. Pull up at 5:30 Am and this place was loaded, couldn't even pull in to turn around. So I'm headed to my fall back place and I notice another piece of National forest that no one is parked at, I figured it was because it was calling for 40 mph and wind and the only way to hunt the place is park on a small pull off that is basically in a ditch beside someone's yard and go straight up a 1200+ ft "mountain" side to get to where you can hunt. I get to the top and notice a barbed wire fence. I pull up my HuntWise app to see if those are remnants of an old property line or if that's an actual property line to private land. When I do that, the map shows red lines all through the area. I pull up the info on it, and it shows it as a "pioneer weapons area" meaning only archery, crossbow, or muzzleloader. And there I was with my 835. So I had to come right back down that side and go elsewhere. Had I not hit that fence at the top, I'd have never thought to look considering the sign showed National forest and directly across the road was more National forest that was open to "modern" weapons and neither were marked any differently on the signage.
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Mistake or not. As Greg stated earlier , ignorance is no excuse for the law. Fine then period.
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on April 20, 2023, 04:26:16 PM
Quote from: ScottTaulbee on April 20, 2023, 09:43:08 AM
I could see it being an honest mistake. Sunday morning I went to a National forest spot about an hour from the house I've hunted the last several years. I've seen at most 2 other guys in there, locals, and we each have our own area we like to hunt. Pull up at 5:30 Am and this place was loaded, couldn't even pull in to turn around. So I'm headed to my fall back place and I notice another piece of National forest that no one is parked at, I figured it was because it was calling for 40 mph and wind and the only way to hunt the place is park on a small pull off that is basically in a ditch beside someone's yard and go straight up a 1200+ ft "mountain" side to get to where you can hunt. I get to the top and notice a barbed wire fence. I pull up my HuntWise app to see if those are remnants of an old property line or if that's an actual property line to private land. When I do that, the map shows red lines all through the area. I pull up the info on it, and it shows it as a "pioneer weapons area" meaning only archery, crossbow, or muzzleloader. And there I was with my 835. So I had to come right back down that side and go elsewhere. Had I not hit that fence at the top, I'd have never thought to look considering the sign showed National forest and directly across the road was more National forest that was open to "modern" weapons and neither were marked any differently on the signage.
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Mistake or not. As Greg stated earlier , ignorance is no excuse for the law. Fine then period.
I'm not saying that it shouldn't be punished. They should be made an example of. What I'm saying is, I can see how it could happen.
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I have little sympathy for them. If you take on the responsibility of hunting, you need to read the law book. No excuses accepted there. If there is no turkey hunting allowed at all, they did it intentionally. If you can't read, you shouldn't have a license of any kind. Filming it was arrogance, not ignorance. :z-twocents: Z
Likes, shares, and views drive many to push the limits. Lots of pressure on some of them to perform once they create that channel. I'd be willing to bet they knew what they were doing with the access to On-X type mapping.
Sounds like these guys might have made a mistake... I would guess not... My guess is that they really, really, wanted to post a "cool" video of a bird being shot for all those likes...
Maybe they really wanted to have a successful turkey hunt... Or maybe they wanted to have a successful turkey hunting video?
Running wild outdoors joined the legion of fellow social media users who only got caught commiting a wildlife violation due to social media. It truly is mind boggling the amount of people who would've gotten away with something had they simply not plastered it all over the internet. Can't say I feel bad for them tbh.
Anybody have a link to the video or was it taken down? I looked at their YouTube page and couldn't find it.
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If they going to use public land to record their shows they should use profit to improve habitat. They better start before.giv starts taxing them.
I called them out on Tennessee Turkey hunters on another video they were promoting. The guy tried to private message me and then deleted it. Yes, my ALDEER brethren absolutely called them out. They had been there the week earlier scouting so I hope they throw the book at em. There's part of the video where they literally are standing at the wma board even. I watched another one of their videos where they called in two birds and only attempted shooting at one. The guy then said man I'm not gonna shoot it cause we will kill another for more footage. Get these youtubers out of our public lands or at least make them pay fees to film for profit. It would cut down on a lot of these wanna be social media stars.